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Because the images are used on member badges, on the seal, on the flag, on houses, on memorials to deceased members, on a certificates of membership, and on a college rings, the consensus of Wikipedia editors is that the Greek letters do, in fact, represent FIJI. Q4: Why do we need to have the Greek letters in the article?
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For the record, I have no personal association with this organization. I think with all the attention being paid on the Greek letters, the quality of article itself has (understandably) suffered. The entire section on the 'Historical sketch of Jefferson College' seems completely pointless to me. It seems like info that should be in Washington & Jefferson College, and is mostly out of place here. Unless someone has a good objection, I would like to delete it, and move the see also line to the next section. That seems like the most obvious starting place, but there are many other problems with this article -mainly that it reads like a recruitment brochure. Any thoughts? Grayfell ( talk) 05:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
On the talk page for the Infobox Fraternity ( Template talk:Infobox fraternity#Proposal on change to description of the letters field.), I started a discussion on allowing for a more common name in place of greek letters if appropriate. Yes, this is done as the formal way to consider allowing for the use of Fiji rather than the greek letters in the Infobox at Phi Gamma Delta. Please comment at the Template talk page. I have also posted this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. Naraht ( talk) 17:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Naraht ( talk) 17:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
The letters should be changed because the FIJI website does ask publication to use that instead of greek letters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.129.96 ( talk) 18:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm a brother of FIJI. I made a Chrome extension that removes the Greek letters from all web pages, including Wikipedia. I don't think I'm allowed to link to it here, but it's on the Chrome Web Store and you should find it yourself easily. Brothers, I hope it brings you some peace. Perge! 50.176.186.16 ( talk) 22:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have any idea on when to use FIJI and when to use Fiji in the article? Since these are both forms of the nickname, I'm actually tempted to call Phi Gamma Delta Headquarters. Note, there are uses of both capitalizations on their home page, mostly FIJI, but "Famous Fijis" Naraht ( talk) 13:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
The most recent hits I can find for Matt Fritzie in news.google.com are basically a whole grouping around the last week of 2010 and first week of 2011 indicating that he was suing the National Fraternity in Jackson County Circuit Court (example http://www.eldoradotimes.com/article/20110103/NEWS/301039945 )and then another couple around February 14th, about KU redefining its hazing policies which includes
The university put its chapter of the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity on two years of probation after an investigation revealed hazing occurred at the fraternity's annual island party in September. Kansas freshman Matt Fritzie was left paralyzed after diving into a makeshift pool at that party.
. Should the fact that the school found hazing to have taken place be added or other changes to be made? Naraht ( talk) 00:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I wonder if any sort of insertion among the three letters of something like non-break spaces or directional markers would reduce the amount of vandalism or for that matter putting the greek letters themselves in uuencode so that isn't obvious what they are. The last is against Wikipedia principles, I think but tempting. Naraht ( talk) 20:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
one of the users who specializes in graphics could probably create one in a couple of minutes. Naraht ( talk) 17:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)The Official Flag is of royal purple background, with the fraternity's Greek initials in the center, and a star in the upper right-hand corner. Both the initials and the star are white. Each chapter may place in the upper left-hand corner the Greek letter or letters which designate it in the Fraternity.
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I request to remove the "complaints about behavio"r section. I have looked through several other greek associations and have found no such sections on their wiki pages. This consitutes for a removal of the complaints section of the Phi Gamma Delta wiki page. Please take corrective action as soon as possible. Jporter9464 ( talk) 15:29, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Article currently states: "It was found out that the fraternity hosted a large party the night before, and that members forced Daniels to drink large amounts of alcohol for initiation. Once he became sick, a few FIJI brothers carried him to a secluded room at the fraternity and left him"
First thing to note is that the first source listed is about a different Fresno State student named "Omar Nemeth," not Danny Daniels.
Second is that the statement that "the fraternity hosted a large party the night before" is incorrect because the date coincides when school was not in session between semesters, so the fraternity was not operational and few fraternity members or Fresno State students were even in town.
Third, at the time of his death, Danny Daniels was not in any way a member of Fiji, he was friends with some of the members and was living in the house. He would not have been involved in any kind of "initiation ceremony," and the fraternity would not be holding any kind of ceremony while school was not in session.
Fourth, the room that he died in was his bedroom (as I mentioned, he was living in the house), not some secluded room that he'd been taken to.
These are the facts that conflict with the current description in the article: Danny Daniels lived in the fraternity house and was found dead in his own bedroom. Danny Daniels was not a member of Fiji and as such was not involved in any sort of initiation ceremony. Danny Daniels was actually not even a Fresno State student at the time (was not a student the previous semester and was not enrolled as a student for the upcoming semester). This alone makes him ineligible for membership in Fiji. When he died, school was not in session and the fraternity was not operating.
I know that Wikipedia doesn't like original sources but I know these things because I was a Fiji at Fresno State when Danny Daniels died. I'm not trying to do PR for Fiji or anything, I just hate to see such a blatantly false description of what happened. I'll try to dig up sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.56.113 ( talk) 18:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Add to complaints about behavior. In 2020, Gettysburg College suspended the Phi Gamma Delta until January 1st, 2023 due to violations of the COVID-19 protocols. The chapter hosted a party in September 2020 after Gettysburg College went into quarantine.
https://gettysburgian.com/2020/12/college-suspends-phi-gamma-delta-fiji-fraternity-chapter-until-2023-citing-egregious-covid-19-protocol-violations-and-years-of-conduct-concerns/#:~:text=The%20Phi%20Gamma%20Delta%20(FIJI,housing%20during%20the%20suspension%20period. Banjo509 ( talk) 00:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Requesting the removal of the Greek letters from this page. The International Fraternity of Phi Gamma Delta, in accordance with its laws, is not permitted to have their letters written outside of certain contexts including a class ring, chapter house, certificate of membership, flag, badge, seal, and memorial. 199.120.30.239 ( talk) 20:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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The information on the Hazing event at the University of Missouri is missing some things and factually incorrect. 1) It should specify University of Missouri - Columbia (As opposed to the also existing University of Missouri - Kansas City). The are otherwise unable to be told apart without the city and that is their legal proper name. 2) The name of the victim student is known, it is Daniel Santulli who was 19 years old at the time of the incident. This is also important because some charges were hazing, others were providing to a minor. 3) He was not "found unresponsive" by University Police, but he was instead driven to the University Hospital by fraternity brothers, police had nothing to do with any of it and were not involved until after the fact. 4) There is more known now, lawsuits and at the moment of this writing, 2 people charged with felonies for their role. 5) Victim is now blind, unable to walk (wheelchair bound), and unable to speak/communicate, and suffered brain damage. (According to his family's attorney, not medically verified, but publicly stated and included on lawsuit paperwork) 6) The University did say it disciplined members of the fraternity, but no details were given.
NOTE: The biggest thing I want to point out is that while it is missing information, it is inaccurate to say that "Police at the University of Missouri found an unresponsive freshman after a fraternity party in 2021" as paperwork filed with the court has stated as well: "The lawsuit states Santulli’s “skin was pale and his lips were blue, yet no one called 911.” Instead, the decision was made to drive Santulli to University Hospital in Columbia in one of the brother’s cars." It is also known that this was not just an alcohol overdose, but was hazing on a pledge during their "dad reveal".
Sources: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-st-louis-county-men-indicted-in-mizzou-hazing-that-left-freshman-blind-unable-to/article_48ed38ce-0c8f-54ce-9ec6-de09fb1fc4b8.html https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/2022/06/17/danny-santulli-felony-charges-fiji-hazing-missouri-mizzou-fraternity-brothers/7665422001/ https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/education/campus/2022/06/16/mizzou-greek-life-hazing-involving-alcohol-entrenched-missouri-campus-report-says/7633021001/ https://fox59.com/news/national-world/hazing-incident-leaves-university-of-missouri-student-unable-to-see-talk-or-walk/ Zacklovin ( talk) 18:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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The section on the Butler Sexual assault is inaccurate, it says "...Crawfordsville, Indiana police told her Butler University has no formal code of conduct and that the student who assaulted her would face few consequences" It is not Butler University that has no formal code of conduct, but Wabash College. This should be changed to accurately reflect the facts.
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REMOVE THE GREEK LETTERS FROM THE SIDEBAR. IT IS VERY LIMITED USE; Farhan.frc ( talk) 02:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Frequently asked questions Q1: Should the Greek letters be removed because Wikipedia is not one of the seven places where they can be shown?
A1:
One of Wikipedia's central policies is that
Wikipedia is not censored. Removing the letters because of FIJI's bylaws is considered to be a form of censorship. Wikipedia is not a member of FIJI, and is therefore not bound by its rules. Q2: Should the Greek letters be removed to avoid offending members of the fraternity?
A2:
There are many reasons why some groups want to censor Wikipedia, but one of Wikipedia's central policies is that
it is not censored. Some organizations' bylaws ask for certain information to be hidden, some religions ask that some images or spellings be avoided, some people want to avoid seeing spoilers, some information is considered not safe for work, some information is considered to be inappropriate for children. Wikipedia cannot accomodate all of these demands and still be a neutral and free source of information. Warnings about what content might appear in Wikipedia is contained in the
content disclaimer. Q3: FIJI rarely uses its Greek letters, so do they really represent the fraternity?
A3:
Because the images are used on member badges, on the seal, on the flag, on houses, on memorials to deceased members, on a certificates of membership, and on a college rings, the consensus of Wikipedia editors is that the Greek letters do, in fact, represent FIJI. Q4: Why do we need to have the Greek letters in the article?
A4:
It has been long-standing
consensus, lead by members of
WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities, that including the Greek letters in articles about fraternities provided encyclopaedically useful information. Q5: Must Wikipedia remove the letters because they are trademarked by Fiji?
A5:
Under Florida law, the publisher of an encyclopedia does not require permission to include a trademarked name in an article about the owner of the trademark. In addition, Phi Gamma Delta does not hold the trademark for the three greek letters in that combination. It does have a trademark for the letters spelled out in English: Phi Gamma Delta Q6: Should an article about a secretive organization be written by members of that organization?
A6:
Members of an organization are likely to have a
conflict of interest with articles about that organization. They should therefore take extra care to be neutral when editing the article, and in many cases, they should avoid editing it altogether and should instead request that others make the needed edits. The fact that the organization is secretive makes no difference because all information in the article should be
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For the record, I have no personal association with this organization. I think with all the attention being paid on the Greek letters, the quality of article itself has (understandably) suffered. The entire section on the 'Historical sketch of Jefferson College' seems completely pointless to me. It seems like info that should be in Washington & Jefferson College, and is mostly out of place here. Unless someone has a good objection, I would like to delete it, and move the see also line to the next section. That seems like the most obvious starting place, but there are many other problems with this article -mainly that it reads like a recruitment brochure. Any thoughts? Grayfell ( talk) 05:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
On the talk page for the Infobox Fraternity ( Template talk:Infobox fraternity#Proposal on change to description of the letters field.), I started a discussion on allowing for a more common name in place of greek letters if appropriate. Yes, this is done as the formal way to consider allowing for the use of Fiji rather than the greek letters in the Infobox at Phi Gamma Delta. Please comment at the Template talk page. I have also posted this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. Naraht ( talk) 17:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Naraht ( talk) 17:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
The letters should be changed because the FIJI website does ask publication to use that instead of greek letters — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.170.129.96 ( talk) 18:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm a brother of FIJI. I made a Chrome extension that removes the Greek letters from all web pages, including Wikipedia. I don't think I'm allowed to link to it here, but it's on the Chrome Web Store and you should find it yourself easily. Brothers, I hope it brings you some peace. Perge! 50.176.186.16 ( talk) 22:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone have any idea on when to use FIJI and when to use Fiji in the article? Since these are both forms of the nickname, I'm actually tempted to call Phi Gamma Delta Headquarters. Note, there are uses of both capitalizations on their home page, mostly FIJI, but "Famous Fijis" Naraht ( talk) 13:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
The most recent hits I can find for Matt Fritzie in news.google.com are basically a whole grouping around the last week of 2010 and first week of 2011 indicating that he was suing the National Fraternity in Jackson County Circuit Court (example http://www.eldoradotimes.com/article/20110103/NEWS/301039945 )and then another couple around February 14th, about KU redefining its hazing policies which includes
The university put its chapter of the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity on two years of probation after an investigation revealed hazing occurred at the fraternity's annual island party in September. Kansas freshman Matt Fritzie was left paralyzed after diving into a makeshift pool at that party.
. Should the fact that the school found hazing to have taken place be added or other changes to be made? Naraht ( talk) 00:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I wonder if any sort of insertion among the three letters of something like non-break spaces or directional markers would reduce the amount of vandalism or for that matter putting the greek letters themselves in uuencode so that isn't obvious what they are. The last is against Wikipedia principles, I think but tempting. Naraht ( talk) 20:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
one of the users who specializes in graphics could probably create one in a couple of minutes. Naraht ( talk) 17:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)The Official Flag is of royal purple background, with the fraternity's Greek initials in the center, and a star in the upper right-hand corner. Both the initials and the star are white. Each chapter may place in the upper left-hand corner the Greek letter or letters which designate it in the Fraternity.
Do we want to consider using
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How do people feel about adding an WP:Editnotice to the page, or would that not do any better than the current commented text? Naraht ( talk) 21:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Does anyone know of any edit notices for similar situations? At worst, we can use a similar one to the one from Mohammed, (without the (pbuh) of course) given that's where I got the info on how to hide things if a person has an account. Naraht ( talk) 21:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I sort of dropped the ball on this one. How about this one altered from Template:Editnotices/Page/Muhammad ? (Note, creation of editnotices is restricted, but we can submit an edit request)
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I request to remove the "complaints about behavio"r section. I have looked through several other greek associations and have found no such sections on their wiki pages. This consitutes for a removal of the complaints section of the Phi Gamma Delta wiki page. Please take corrective action as soon as possible. Jporter9464 ( talk) 15:29, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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Article currently states: "It was found out that the fraternity hosted a large party the night before, and that members forced Daniels to drink large amounts of alcohol for initiation. Once he became sick, a few FIJI brothers carried him to a secluded room at the fraternity and left him"
First thing to note is that the first source listed is about a different Fresno State student named "Omar Nemeth," not Danny Daniels.
Second is that the statement that "the fraternity hosted a large party the night before" is incorrect because the date coincides when school was not in session between semesters, so the fraternity was not operational and few fraternity members or Fresno State students were even in town.
Third, at the time of his death, Danny Daniels was not in any way a member of Fiji, he was friends with some of the members and was living in the house. He would not have been involved in any kind of "initiation ceremony," and the fraternity would not be holding any kind of ceremony while school was not in session.
Fourth, the room that he died in was his bedroom (as I mentioned, he was living in the house), not some secluded room that he'd been taken to.
These are the facts that conflict with the current description in the article: Danny Daniels lived in the fraternity house and was found dead in his own bedroom. Danny Daniels was not a member of Fiji and as such was not involved in any sort of initiation ceremony. Danny Daniels was actually not even a Fresno State student at the time (was not a student the previous semester and was not enrolled as a student for the upcoming semester). This alone makes him ineligible for membership in Fiji. When he died, school was not in session and the fraternity was not operating.
I know that Wikipedia doesn't like original sources but I know these things because I was a Fiji at Fresno State when Danny Daniels died. I'm not trying to do PR for Fiji or anything, I just hate to see such a blatantly false description of what happened. I'll try to dig up sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.56.113 ( talk) 18:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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Add to complaints about behavior. In 2020, Gettysburg College suspended the Phi Gamma Delta until January 1st, 2023 due to violations of the COVID-19 protocols. The chapter hosted a party in September 2020 after Gettysburg College went into quarantine.
https://gettysburgian.com/2020/12/college-suspends-phi-gamma-delta-fiji-fraternity-chapter-until-2023-citing-egregious-covid-19-protocol-violations-and-years-of-conduct-concerns/#:~:text=The%20Phi%20Gamma%20Delta%20(FIJI,housing%20during%20the%20suspension%20period. Banjo509 ( talk) 00:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Requesting the removal of the Greek letters from this page. The International Fraternity of Phi Gamma Delta, in accordance with its laws, is not permitted to have their letters written outside of certain contexts including a class ring, chapter house, certificate of membership, flag, badge, seal, and memorial. 199.120.30.239 ( talk) 20:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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The information on the Hazing event at the University of Missouri is missing some things and factually incorrect. 1) It should specify University of Missouri - Columbia (As opposed to the also existing University of Missouri - Kansas City). The are otherwise unable to be told apart without the city and that is their legal proper name. 2) The name of the victim student is known, it is Daniel Santulli who was 19 years old at the time of the incident. This is also important because some charges were hazing, others were providing to a minor. 3) He was not "found unresponsive" by University Police, but he was instead driven to the University Hospital by fraternity brothers, police had nothing to do with any of it and were not involved until after the fact. 4) There is more known now, lawsuits and at the moment of this writing, 2 people charged with felonies for their role. 5) Victim is now blind, unable to walk (wheelchair bound), and unable to speak/communicate, and suffered brain damage. (According to his family's attorney, not medically verified, but publicly stated and included on lawsuit paperwork) 6) The University did say it disciplined members of the fraternity, but no details were given.
NOTE: The biggest thing I want to point out is that while it is missing information, it is inaccurate to say that "Police at the University of Missouri found an unresponsive freshman after a fraternity party in 2021" as paperwork filed with the court has stated as well: "The lawsuit states Santulli’s “skin was pale and his lips were blue, yet no one called 911.” Instead, the decision was made to drive Santulli to University Hospital in Columbia in one of the brother’s cars." It is also known that this was not just an alcohol overdose, but was hazing on a pledge during their "dad reveal".
Sources: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/two-st-louis-county-men-indicted-in-mizzou-hazing-that-left-freshman-blind-unable-to/article_48ed38ce-0c8f-54ce-9ec6-de09fb1fc4b8.html https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/2022/06/17/danny-santulli-felony-charges-fiji-hazing-missouri-mizzou-fraternity-brothers/7665422001/ https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/education/campus/2022/06/16/mizzou-greek-life-hazing-involving-alcohol-entrenched-missouri-campus-report-says/7633021001/ https://fox59.com/news/national-world/hazing-incident-leaves-university-of-missouri-student-unable-to-see-talk-or-walk/ Zacklovin ( talk) 18:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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The section on the Butler Sexual assault is inaccurate, it says "...Crawfordsville, Indiana police told her Butler University has no formal code of conduct and that the student who assaulted her would face few consequences" It is not Butler University that has no formal code of conduct, but Wabash College. This should be changed to accurately reflect the facts.
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REMOVE THE GREEK LETTERS FROM THE SIDEBAR. IT IS VERY LIMITED USE; Farhan.frc ( talk) 02:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)