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A controversial figure in the history of the original Tavistock Clinic, Rees has been accused by various commentators of setting up a world-wide network to undermine the values of Western civilisation [1] [2]. According to information from the current Tavistock and NHS Trust John Rawlings Rees was a doctor of the original staff of the Tavistock Clinic, became deputy-director in 1926, and full-director in 1933. He became a consulting psychiatrist to the British Army in 1938, medical doctor for Rudolf Hess since 1941 and founding president of the World Federation for Mental Health since 1948, which acts as a consultant to the United Nations. He played an important role as director of military psychiatry in the Second World War and many new ideas of group psychotherapy and institutional understanding came from the work of army psychiatrists, which were influential in the Clinic after the War. He died in 1969. The following quotes from Rees appear to confirm some of the allegations against him.
"We can therefore justifiably stress our particular point of view with regard to the proper development of the human psyche, even though our knowledge be incomplete. We must aim to make it permeate every educational activity in our national life…. We have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine." "Public life, politics and industry should all of them be within our sphere of influence…. If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organize some kind of fifth column activity! If better ideas on mental health are to progress and spread we, as the salesmen, must lose our identity… Let us all, therefore, very secretly be ‘fifth columnists.’"
Dr. John Rawlings Rees, "Strategic Planning for Mental Health", Mental Health, June 18, 1940 [3].
Rees has been linked to the Frankfurt school of Cultural Marxism via Kurt Lewin. According to a biography of Kurt Lewin written by Alfred J Marrow, "Kurt Lewin was the key link in the Frankfurt School/Tavistock migration to America." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.218.31 ( talk) 02:32, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
I just started reading this book today, and I recommend that anyone who wishes to know about Rees should read this. Look out for little comments and hints. From what I have read, I can say that he was toying with his psychological profiling idea as something for more than just the army, but he does not indicate that it is anything more. It would be interesting to see if he develops this somewhere, because he provides good evidence that it works for the army. He seems to have something against 'dullards' though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.163.195.122 ( talk) 01:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
So I removed the dispute tag.-- Cberlet 12:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
There are so many accusations against Rees (with this Talk page alone being rather informative), that the venerable editors here cannot add a note that there are accusations, that there are disputes, that there may be more to Rees? With editors simply denouncing subpar sources as “crackpot material” no one is served.— j9t ( talk) 20:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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A controversial figure in the history of the original Tavistock Clinic, Rees has been accused by various commentators of setting up a world-wide network to undermine the values of Western civilisation [1] [2]. According to information from the current Tavistock and NHS Trust John Rawlings Rees was a doctor of the original staff of the Tavistock Clinic, became deputy-director in 1926, and full-director in 1933. He became a consulting psychiatrist to the British Army in 1938, medical doctor for Rudolf Hess since 1941 and founding president of the World Federation for Mental Health since 1948, which acts as a consultant to the United Nations. He played an important role as director of military psychiatry in the Second World War and many new ideas of group psychotherapy and institutional understanding came from the work of army psychiatrists, which were influential in the Clinic after the War. He died in 1969. The following quotes from Rees appear to confirm some of the allegations against him.
"We can therefore justifiably stress our particular point of view with regard to the proper development of the human psyche, even though our knowledge be incomplete. We must aim to make it permeate every educational activity in our national life…. We have made a useful attack upon a number of professions. The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the Church: the two most difficult are law and medicine." "Public life, politics and industry should all of them be within our sphere of influence…. If we are to infiltrate the professional and social activities of other people I think we must imitate the Totalitarians and organize some kind of fifth column activity! If better ideas on mental health are to progress and spread we, as the salesmen, must lose our identity… Let us all, therefore, very secretly be ‘fifth columnists.’"
Dr. John Rawlings Rees, "Strategic Planning for Mental Health", Mental Health, June 18, 1940 [3].
Rees has been linked to the Frankfurt school of Cultural Marxism via Kurt Lewin. According to a biography of Kurt Lewin written by Alfred J Marrow, "Kurt Lewin was the key link in the Frankfurt School/Tavistock migration to America." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.218.31 ( talk) 02:32, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
I just started reading this book today, and I recommend that anyone who wishes to know about Rees should read this. Look out for little comments and hints. From what I have read, I can say that he was toying with his psychological profiling idea as something for more than just the army, but he does not indicate that it is anything more. It would be interesting to see if he develops this somewhere, because he provides good evidence that it works for the army. He seems to have something against 'dullards' though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.163.195.122 ( talk) 01:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
So I removed the dispute tag.-- Cberlet 12:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
There are so many accusations against Rees (with this Talk page alone being rather informative), that the venerable editors here cannot add a note that there are accusations, that there are disputes, that there may be more to Rees? With editors simply denouncing subpar sources as “crackpot material” no one is served.— j9t ( talk) 20:15, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
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