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It seems Loomis' Civil War service could use a bit more coverage. For example, he was recommended for a promotion, to Brigadier General, twice, by General
Ulysses S. Grant. While stationed in Missouri his wife, Mary Jane Hunt Loomis, accompanied him to the front lines and became head of the company of nurses. This is only a sampling. Loomis' involvement in the Civil War was extensive, and is well covered :
-- Gwillhickers ( talk) 00:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
The article says he was a resident of Ludington, Michigan.
But see 55
Lake Shore Drive, Chicago, Illinois,
John Mason Loomis residence, Ryerson & Burnham Archive Collection,
Art Institute of Chicago.
It also said he was buried at Lakeview Cemetery in Ludington, and that was wrong, as he is at
Rosehill Cemetery in Chicago.
John Mason Loomis at
Find a Grave. I checked the burial records at
Lakeview Cemetery and he isn't there. That was wrong, so I have corrected the latter assertion.
Likewise, I have found a source that says he died in Chicago, not Ludington. I made a correction. Indeed, the thrust of The Commandery is that he was deeply involved in Chicago and its institutions.
7&6=thirteen (
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10:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Our citations don't include any. This is odd. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
While stationed in Missouri, "Of note is that Colonel Loomis’ wife Mary accompanied her husband to the front and became head of a company of nurses." [1] I differ with that analysis. But I won't edit war over that. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Below are some sources found at archive.org. John M. Loomis, along with a good number of other uses of the Loomis name. (e.g.Judge Loomis, Loomis Building, F. Loomis & Co., etc) can be found throughout this three volume work — esp in Volume II. Available for download as searchable PDF files. Hope they're of good use. -- Gwillhickers ( talk) 21:29, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Removed paragraph content of "In "1850 Loomis married Mary Hunt........" because that is inaccurate and unnecessary information. First, it does not belong in the Early life and education sub-section. According to the two book references (reliable sources) Loomis married Mary Hunt in 1849. His successful lumber business is explained in detail in the Sub-section Business career. The fact They had at least two children together, but they all died during infancy is explained in much detail in the Personal life sub-section when I originally created the article. Here it is explained about the history of the Loomis Institute and how that became the Loomis Chaffee School in 1874.-- Doug Coldwell ( talk) 09:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
James Chaffee Loomis is John's brother, (according to the Find a Grave link on his article) the oldest of the siblings and presumably one of those involved with creating the Institute/School? I couldn't immediately see any sources that mention both names, so didn't add wlinks to and from. JennyOz ( talk) 13:30, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
To Doug Coldwell I'm back with some questions on Mr. Loomis. I don't know where you find these guys, but I enjoy learning about them.
1. Loomis originally partnered with Ludington, the same individual whom the Michigan town is named after, although he never set foot there. How did Loomis' original business get "destroyed?" Did Ludington do it? = NO. The way I understand it is that Mr. Ludington was very wealthy, so was just a silent partner (involved with finances, not management) with the original partnership business of "Loomis & Ludington". Whoever was managing the Chicago business (several men I assume) when Colonel Loomis was fighting in the Civil War are the ones that mismanaged the firm and destroyed the business.
2. What is the timeline of Pere Marquette the city becoming Ludington? It's not clear whether the Pere Marquette company was formed in its eponymous city or in Ludington. But then we attribute the efforts of the company in making the transition to Ludington MI. It appears from the existing content that the Mason County seat moved to Ludington, not Pere Marquette. But the final sentence in the section says the success of the Pere Marquette Co. influenced the name change to Marquette.
3. Was James Ludington involved in any of this? Or had he slipped away?
4. See 1. If Ludington destroyed Loomis' business, why get back together?
Help!Offline for a while to recharge the battery. Cleveland Todd ( talk) 18:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Grace
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).cabot
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).To @ Doug Coldwell: Hey Doug. A couple more.
Looking good.
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Did you know?" column on
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John Mason Loomis, a
Union Army colonel in the
American Civil War, fought in 57 battles and skirmishes, marching with his men for more than 6,900 mi (11,100 km)? | ||||||||||||
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It seems Loomis' Civil War service could use a bit more coverage. For example, he was recommended for a promotion, to Brigadier General, twice, by General
Ulysses S. Grant. While stationed in Missouri his wife, Mary Jane Hunt Loomis, accompanied him to the front lines and became head of the company of nurses. This is only a sampling. Loomis' involvement in the Civil War was extensive, and is well covered :
-- Gwillhickers ( talk) 00:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
The article says he was a resident of Ludington, Michigan.
But see 55
Lake Shore Drive, Chicago, Illinois,
John Mason Loomis residence, Ryerson & Burnham Archive Collection,
Art Institute of Chicago.
It also said he was buried at Lakeview Cemetery in Ludington, and that was wrong, as he is at
Rosehill Cemetery in Chicago.
John Mason Loomis at
Find a Grave. I checked the burial records at
Lakeview Cemetery and he isn't there. That was wrong, so I have corrected the latter assertion.
Likewise, I have found a source that says he died in Chicago, not Ludington. I made a correction. Indeed, the thrust of The Commandery is that he was deeply involved in Chicago and its institutions.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
10:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Our citations don't include any. This is odd. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
While stationed in Missouri, "Of note is that Colonel Loomis’ wife Mary accompanied her husband to the front and became head of a company of nurses." [1] I differ with that analysis. But I won't edit war over that. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Below are some sources found at archive.org. John M. Loomis, along with a good number of other uses of the Loomis name. (e.g.Judge Loomis, Loomis Building, F. Loomis & Co., etc) can be found throughout this three volume work — esp in Volume II. Available for download as searchable PDF files. Hope they're of good use. -- Gwillhickers ( talk) 21:29, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Removed paragraph content of "In "1850 Loomis married Mary Hunt........" because that is inaccurate and unnecessary information. First, it does not belong in the Early life and education sub-section. According to the two book references (reliable sources) Loomis married Mary Hunt in 1849. His successful lumber business is explained in detail in the Sub-section Business career. The fact They had at least two children together, but they all died during infancy is explained in much detail in the Personal life sub-section when I originally created the article. Here it is explained about the history of the Loomis Institute and how that became the Loomis Chaffee School in 1874.-- Doug Coldwell ( talk) 09:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
James Chaffee Loomis is John's brother, (according to the Find a Grave link on his article) the oldest of the siblings and presumably one of those involved with creating the Institute/School? I couldn't immediately see any sources that mention both names, so didn't add wlinks to and from. JennyOz ( talk) 13:30, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
To Doug Coldwell I'm back with some questions on Mr. Loomis. I don't know where you find these guys, but I enjoy learning about them.
1. Loomis originally partnered with Ludington, the same individual whom the Michigan town is named after, although he never set foot there. How did Loomis' original business get "destroyed?" Did Ludington do it? = NO. The way I understand it is that Mr. Ludington was very wealthy, so was just a silent partner (involved with finances, not management) with the original partnership business of "Loomis & Ludington". Whoever was managing the Chicago business (several men I assume) when Colonel Loomis was fighting in the Civil War are the ones that mismanaged the firm and destroyed the business.
2. What is the timeline of Pere Marquette the city becoming Ludington? It's not clear whether the Pere Marquette company was formed in its eponymous city or in Ludington. But then we attribute the efforts of the company in making the transition to Ludington MI. It appears from the existing content that the Mason County seat moved to Ludington, not Pere Marquette. But the final sentence in the section says the success of the Pere Marquette Co. influenced the name change to Marquette.
3. Was James Ludington involved in any of this? Or had he slipped away?
4. See 1. If Ludington destroyed Loomis' business, why get back together?
Help!Offline for a while to recharge the battery. Cleveland Todd ( talk) 18:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
References
Grace
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).cabot
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).To @ Doug Coldwell: Hey Doug. A couple more.
Looking good.
GA toolbox |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Eddie891 ( talk · contribs) 20:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Can review Eddie891 Talk Work 20:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)