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I thought he was alive and then I read "John Mann (born 10 January 1960) was a British Labour Party politician ...."
If he has died, then the date of death should be included. If he has not died, probably the entry should read "John Mann (born 10 January 1960) is a former British Labour Party politician ...." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.185.122 ( talk) 23:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
This page could do with a photo Matthewfelgate 21:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I work for John Mann and removed the following passage that appeared in jan 2009 under the heading "Treasury Select Committee":
"John Mann has been criticised for being populist and uninformed, most notably through his crass 'Mann of the People' column in the Worksop Guardian newspaper."
This item was (a) placed outside the structure of the article, (b) unsourced, (c) incorrect and (d) contravenes wiki policy on articles on biographies of living person:
"They must be rigorously balanced, and written with regard to the highest quality of fairness and sourcing. Information that is not evidenced, or only evidenced from poor quality sources may be deleted by anyone, as may material that is unreasonable for a biography. (See the policy: "biographies of living persons") [1]"
And also I believe stands against wiki guidelines on criticism:
"Criticism and praise of the subject should be represented if it is relevant to the subject's notability and can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, and so long as the material is written in a manner that does not overwhelm the article or appear to take sides; it needs to be presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Be careful not to give a disproportionate amount of space to particular viewpoints, to avoid the effect of representing a minority view as if it were the majority one. The views of a tiny minority have no place in the article. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation is broadly neutral; in particular, subsection headings should reflect important areas to the subject's notability." [2]
John Mann aims to keep information available about him factual and correct. Criticism that follows the wiki guidelines is of course acceptable, but would urge that if constituents have criticisms they contact him first - information on contacting John Mann can be found on http://www.johnmannmp.com/contact_me/
I have removed a bunch of spam links in the References section (linking to such sites as sagewisdom.org), but this leaves a lot of floating miscellaneous links here, in the so-called "News references" section that follows, and in the External links section that follows that. These are essentially a directory of links targeting material related to John Mann – this is rather against the recommendations of Wikipedia:External_links. I propose removing all of the bullet-points links in References/"News references" and slimming down the External links, unless anybody has any better ideas. Alexbrn 17:10, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
John Mann is notable for his paedophilia work and has been doing alot recently to work hand in hand with convicted paedophiles[
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2837175/MP-told-police-VIP-paedophile-ring-s-parties-26-years-Labour-s-John-Mann-claims-handed-evidence-abuse-Scotland-Yard-investigation-shelved.html. {{
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help)] This should definitely be added to the article, I'd suggest changing John Mann's profession per reference given above. He's exposing the westminster paedophile ring.
When this page talks about the incident with Ken Livingstone why can we not have the Haavara Agreement referenced where the Nazis and the Zionists were in business together as this is what Ken was referring to and what offended John? It proves John was wrong. I am guessing it cant be referenced as John Manns staff work on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.120.167 ( talk) 16:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if the Nazi/Zionist agreement is "tasteful" or if it was done for pro-Jewish reasons (which it absolutely wasn't). It IS a historical fact, and SHOULD be refereed to in this context. History is rarely tasteful.
155.69.179.103 ( talk) 11:17, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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"During his time in Labour, he put out a racist booklet in his constituentcy, demonising travellers."
No sources backing that statement, what is "racist", to whom? For others its just the truth and travellers have nothing to do with race.
62.226.74.15 ( talk) 05:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Change to section heading: Let's use neutral expressions as per WP:NPOV Jontel ( talk) 14:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Recently, DaisyRabbit14 [ contributions], who has declared himself or herself a "close relative to John Mann", has made a series of edits to the article, some of which look valid, some less so. I recommend discussing them on the talkpage. ← ZScarpia 14:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC) (Just after posting my comment, Roxy-the-dog carried out a mass reversion, including two edits made by Jontel)
Regarding these two edits, [10] and [11], which removed material cited to this source, it does appear that Mann is still sitting as a Labour MP, but intends to not stand at the next general election, which he anticipates being held soon. See: [12], [13] and [14]. ← ZScarpia 23:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
John Mann, chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Anti-Semitism, and fellow MP Dennis McShane, former chairman of the Group, appeared as witnesses for Ronnie Fraser, claimant in an employment tribunal where the UCU was the respondent. The tribunal report had the following to say about the two MPs (see page 37 of the report): [15] [16]
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I thought he was alive and then I read "John Mann (born 10 January 1960) was a British Labour Party politician ...."
If he has died, then the date of death should be included. If he has not died, probably the entry should read "John Mann (born 10 January 1960) is a former British Labour Party politician ...." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.185.122 ( talk) 23:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
This page could do with a photo Matthewfelgate 21:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I work for John Mann and removed the following passage that appeared in jan 2009 under the heading "Treasury Select Committee":
"John Mann has been criticised for being populist and uninformed, most notably through his crass 'Mann of the People' column in the Worksop Guardian newspaper."
This item was (a) placed outside the structure of the article, (b) unsourced, (c) incorrect and (d) contravenes wiki policy on articles on biographies of living person:
"They must be rigorously balanced, and written with regard to the highest quality of fairness and sourcing. Information that is not evidenced, or only evidenced from poor quality sources may be deleted by anyone, as may material that is unreasonable for a biography. (See the policy: "biographies of living persons") [1]"
And also I believe stands against wiki guidelines on criticism:
"Criticism and praise of the subject should be represented if it is relevant to the subject's notability and can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, and so long as the material is written in a manner that does not overwhelm the article or appear to take sides; it needs to be presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Be careful not to give a disproportionate amount of space to particular viewpoints, to avoid the effect of representing a minority view as if it were the majority one. The views of a tiny minority have no place in the article. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation is broadly neutral; in particular, subsection headings should reflect important areas to the subject's notability." [2]
John Mann aims to keep information available about him factual and correct. Criticism that follows the wiki guidelines is of course acceptable, but would urge that if constituents have criticisms they contact him first - information on contacting John Mann can be found on http://www.johnmannmp.com/contact_me/
I have removed a bunch of spam links in the References section (linking to such sites as sagewisdom.org), but this leaves a lot of floating miscellaneous links here, in the so-called "News references" section that follows, and in the External links section that follows that. These are essentially a directory of links targeting material related to John Mann – this is rather against the recommendations of Wikipedia:External_links. I propose removing all of the bullet-points links in References/"News references" and slimming down the External links, unless anybody has any better ideas. Alexbrn 17:10, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
John Mann is notable for his paedophilia work and has been doing alot recently to work hand in hand with convicted paedophiles[
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2837175/MP-told-police-VIP-paedophile-ring-s-parties-26-years-Labour-s-John-Mann-claims-handed-evidence-abuse-Scotland-Yard-investigation-shelved.html. {{
cite news}}
: Missing or empty |title=
(
help)] This should definitely be added to the article, I'd suggest changing John Mann's profession per reference given above. He's exposing the westminster paedophile ring.
When this page talks about the incident with Ken Livingstone why can we not have the Haavara Agreement referenced where the Nazis and the Zionists were in business together as this is what Ken was referring to and what offended John? It proves John was wrong. I am guessing it cant be referenced as John Manns staff work on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.120.167 ( talk) 16:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if the Nazi/Zionist agreement is "tasteful" or if it was done for pro-Jewish reasons (which it absolutely wasn't). It IS a historical fact, and SHOULD be refereed to in this context. History is rarely tasteful.
155.69.179.103 ( talk) 11:17, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
==
Should anyone want a well sourced article try the pages of
==
https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2018/04/john-mann-mp-race-hate-shame.html?m=1
==
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"During his time in Labour, he put out a racist booklet in his constituentcy, demonising travellers."
No sources backing that statement, what is "racist", to whom? For others its just the truth and travellers have nothing to do with race.
62.226.74.15 ( talk) 05:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Change to section heading: Let's use neutral expressions as per WP:NPOV Jontel ( talk) 14:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Recently, DaisyRabbit14 [ contributions], who has declared himself or herself a "close relative to John Mann", has made a series of edits to the article, some of which look valid, some less so. I recommend discussing them on the talkpage. ← ZScarpia 14:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC) (Just after posting my comment, Roxy-the-dog carried out a mass reversion, including two edits made by Jontel)
Regarding these two edits, [10] and [11], which removed material cited to this source, it does appear that Mann is still sitting as a Labour MP, but intends to not stand at the next general election, which he anticipates being held soon. See: [12], [13] and [14]. ← ZScarpia 23:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
John Mann, chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Anti-Semitism, and fellow MP Dennis McShane, former chairman of the Group, appeared as witnesses for Ronnie Fraser, claimant in an employment tribunal where the UCU was the respondent. The tribunal report had the following to say about the two MPs (see page 37 of the report): [15] [16]