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Do contributors to this page think it's appropriate to add some sort of section regarding Toole's influence on popular culture and music? Perhaps such a section would be more appropriate on the A Confederacy of Dunces page?
I recently added a link in the Bibliography "Works about Toole" section but it was removed because it was deemed out of place in the list of otherwise scholarly works (sorry if I made a faux pas – newbie here).
I wouldn't press the point except for the fact that the work in question is a song by the late Jimmie Spheeris, who knew Toole in New Orleans and included a song entitled You Must Be Laughing Somewhere on his final album. Jimmie's final album was completed on the night he died and not released publicly for 16 years. There are some striking parallels between the publication of Toole's novel and the release of Jimmie's final album — I can't help but think readers would find this interesting. Again, I don't want to press this and would appreciate comments.
Jimmie was a friend and I've been making updates to his Wiki page lately. He and I had several conversations regarding Toole over the years. Documentation would be difficult to prove, but the song lyrics speak for themselves.
Thanks, Art101 18:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Infrogmation. I'll refrain from the temptation to add anything to the Toole page and concentrate on expanding Jimmie's Wikipedia page.
Art101 23:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering how Toole could have met up with Flannery O'Connor the night he died (in 1969) when she had died in 1964? Clearly there's something wrong.
Sontag12 —Preceding comment was added at 19:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
He succumbed to deafness? Wow, must have been a particularly malignant form of deafness.... And, if he "succumbed" to it, then "failing health" might be a bit of an understatement.... rowley ( talk) 20:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Selective Service, the Vietnam War draft lottery began in 1970. The Korean War draft ended on 1950. This article states that Toole was drafted in 1961, and served 2 years.
Can you please clarify?
http://www.sss.gov/lotter1.htm
173.70.172.98 ( talk) 06:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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The reason I removed the section is while skimming through both books I noticed there are severe discrepancies I will have to sort out before I feel this can even be discussed here. It seems like all the principal witnesses are complaining in Ken & Thelma that Ignatius Rising is nearly a work of fiction. I'll read both books over the weekend and incorporate what I can. Oh, boy I was hoping this would be much easier. Quadzilla99 ( talk) 10:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
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Unfortunately after much work on this, myself (I was Quadzilla99) and another user have decided that due to the issues raised above, the main source used just isn't reliable enough to stand up to FAC or GA level scrutiny. I truly believe everything in here is accurate as I feel I read the book with a critical eye and left out anything which sounded like conjecture, but there's just really no way to know for sure. I'm leaving this note here in case I retire again, and someone decides to nominate the article they know to tread lightly. Hopefully a good bio comes out on him, but I don't see anything in the pipeline. AaronY ( talk) 08:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Is there a widespread consensus that the appropriate title abbreviation of A Confederacy of Dunces is "Dunces"? If this was customary for Toole himself, or his editors, I must agree with it. However, in my own personal experience, the word "Confederacy" is the appropriate abbreviation. If there is a rule for this practice, it is apparently that the first noun in a title would be selected. This would be Confederacy, not Dunces, and the latter occurs within a prepositional phrase. Cdg1072 ( talk) 04:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
It appears that most of the article is based on a single source (Nevils and Hardy), which does not seem ideal. I think the article should cut down its reliance on the single source for most of its content. Shreevatsa ( talk) 22:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Has the possibility that Mr. Toole suffered from an undiagnosed brain tumor ever been mentioned? His headaches and increasingly erratic behavior and paranoia might seem to render such possible. The article states he refused to see a neurologist as a physician recommended. Perhaps he had feared this possibility himself regardless if it were true and never let on. Was an autopsy performed? Perhaps not as the cause of death was obvious so what would have been the point of exploring health concerns at that point. In any event, a real tragedy and loss. HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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The phrase "... there was an openly gay contingent which flaunted their homosexuality." is pretty homophobic. Would it be better to say that they didn't hide their homosexuality? Thbpr ( talk) 13:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
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Do contributors to this page think it's appropriate to add some sort of section regarding Toole's influence on popular culture and music? Perhaps such a section would be more appropriate on the A Confederacy of Dunces page?
I recently added a link in the Bibliography "Works about Toole" section but it was removed because it was deemed out of place in the list of otherwise scholarly works (sorry if I made a faux pas – newbie here).
I wouldn't press the point except for the fact that the work in question is a song by the late Jimmie Spheeris, who knew Toole in New Orleans and included a song entitled You Must Be Laughing Somewhere on his final album. Jimmie's final album was completed on the night he died and not released publicly for 16 years. There are some striking parallels between the publication of Toole's novel and the release of Jimmie's final album — I can't help but think readers would find this interesting. Again, I don't want to press this and would appreciate comments.
Jimmie was a friend and I've been making updates to his Wiki page lately. He and I had several conversations regarding Toole over the years. Documentation would be difficult to prove, but the song lyrics speak for themselves.
Thanks, Art101 18:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Infrogmation. I'll refrain from the temptation to add anything to the Toole page and concentrate on expanding Jimmie's Wikipedia page.
Art101 23:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering how Toole could have met up with Flannery O'Connor the night he died (in 1969) when she had died in 1964? Clearly there's something wrong.
Sontag12 —Preceding comment was added at 19:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
He succumbed to deafness? Wow, must have been a particularly malignant form of deafness.... And, if he "succumbed" to it, then "failing health" might be a bit of an understatement.... rowley ( talk) 20:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Selective Service, the Vietnam War draft lottery began in 1970. The Korean War draft ended on 1950. This article states that Toole was drafted in 1961, and served 2 years.
Can you please clarify?
http://www.sss.gov/lotter1.htm
173.70.172.98 ( talk) 06:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
References
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cite book}}
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The reason I removed the section is while skimming through both books I noticed there are severe discrepancies I will have to sort out before I feel this can even be discussed here. It seems like all the principal witnesses are complaining in Ken & Thelma that Ignatius Rising is nearly a work of fiction. I'll read both books over the weekend and incorporate what I can. Oh, boy I was hoping this would be much easier. Quadzilla99 ( talk) 10:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
References
Unfortunately after much work on this, myself (I was Quadzilla99) and another user have decided that due to the issues raised above, the main source used just isn't reliable enough to stand up to FAC or GA level scrutiny. I truly believe everything in here is accurate as I feel I read the book with a critical eye and left out anything which sounded like conjecture, but there's just really no way to know for sure. I'm leaving this note here in case I retire again, and someone decides to nominate the article they know to tread lightly. Hopefully a good bio comes out on him, but I don't see anything in the pipeline. AaronY ( talk) 08:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Is there a widespread consensus that the appropriate title abbreviation of A Confederacy of Dunces is "Dunces"? If this was customary for Toole himself, or his editors, I must agree with it. However, in my own personal experience, the word "Confederacy" is the appropriate abbreviation. If there is a rule for this practice, it is apparently that the first noun in a title would be selected. This would be Confederacy, not Dunces, and the latter occurs within a prepositional phrase. Cdg1072 ( talk) 04:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
It appears that most of the article is based on a single source (Nevils and Hardy), which does not seem ideal. I think the article should cut down its reliance on the single source for most of its content. Shreevatsa ( talk) 22:19, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Has the possibility that Mr. Toole suffered from an undiagnosed brain tumor ever been mentioned? His headaches and increasingly erratic behavior and paranoia might seem to render such possible. The article states he refused to see a neurologist as a physician recommended. Perhaps he had feared this possibility himself regardless if it were true and never let on. Was an autopsy performed? Perhaps not as the cause of death was obvious so what would have been the point of exploring health concerns at that point. In any event, a real tragedy and loss. HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 23:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 02:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
The phrase "... there was an openly gay contingent which flaunted their homosexuality." is pretty homophobic. Would it be better to say that they didn't hide their homosexuality? Thbpr ( talk) 13:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)