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I have removed the image of John Goodricke, which was scanned by the uploader from a copyright publication (Sky & Telescope). The image as uploaded is not in the public domain. Rights are held by the Royal Astronomical Society. Licenses for reproduction should be addressed to them or their agents, Science Photo Library. RoyalAstronomicalSociety ( talk) 10:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
added that the asteroid 3116 Goodricke is named for him. Tham153 ( talk) 16:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Two citations in the article provide evidence that the Goodricke portrait was presented to the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS) in 1912. Can an acceptable citation be found to show that the RAS still has it, in London or elsewhere? The page for the Science Photo Library (linked from this article) does not explicitly state the portrait's location. If one wanted to view the portrait, where could it be found? Can a reference be located and added to this article? - Astrochemist ( talk) 02:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
A couple of points. Firstly, it says in one section he was born deaf and mute only later on to state he became deaf at the age of 5 due to scarlet fever. Secondly, this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20725639 supplies evidence that he wasn't mute at all. Has anyone got access to the original sources? Robruss24 ( talk) 14:34, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
John Goodricke was positively deaf. I am not entirely clear on whether he could speak - he evidently had gone for some training in speech but as there is a description of him having to write notes back and forth with a visitor perhaps his speech was still imperfect. (I once worked up a show on him for a planetarium.) Sussmanbern ( talk) 14:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I see that the paragraph about Sean Ellingham and James Valner's work in 2005-6 was added in this edit by an IP from the University of York in March 2006 - without a source cited. In 2019, after Linda French's article Explaining Algol was published in Sky & Telescope, SoylentPurple added to it the sentence about Edward Topham, with a citation to French.
I'm wondering just what French's article validates: whether just the statement about Topham, or about Ellingham and Valner's work as well. The abstract, which is all I've been able to find online, only mentions "The circumstances surrounding the discovery of Algol's variation". I thought I'd ask here first if anybody had the article, before going to WP:RX.
My guess is that the paragraph was originally inserted by Ellingham or Valner, and their work may never have been published. The only thing I can find about them that isn't copied from the Wikipedia article is this: for normal purposes that confirms that they did the work, but I'm dubious whether it is a reliable source by our standards. ColinFine ( talk) 20:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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I have removed the image of John Goodricke, which was scanned by the uploader from a copyright publication (Sky & Telescope). The image as uploaded is not in the public domain. Rights are held by the Royal Astronomical Society. Licenses for reproduction should be addressed to them or their agents, Science Photo Library. RoyalAstronomicalSociety ( talk) 10:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
added that the asteroid 3116 Goodricke is named for him. Tham153 ( talk) 16:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Two citations in the article provide evidence that the Goodricke portrait was presented to the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS) in 1912. Can an acceptable citation be found to show that the RAS still has it, in London or elsewhere? The page for the Science Photo Library (linked from this article) does not explicitly state the portrait's location. If one wanted to view the portrait, where could it be found? Can a reference be located and added to this article? - Astrochemist ( talk) 02:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
A couple of points. Firstly, it says in one section he was born deaf and mute only later on to state he became deaf at the age of 5 due to scarlet fever. Secondly, this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20725639 supplies evidence that he wasn't mute at all. Has anyone got access to the original sources? Robruss24 ( talk) 14:34, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
John Goodricke was positively deaf. I am not entirely clear on whether he could speak - he evidently had gone for some training in speech but as there is a description of him having to write notes back and forth with a visitor perhaps his speech was still imperfect. (I once worked up a show on him for a planetarium.) Sussmanbern ( talk) 14:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I see that the paragraph about Sean Ellingham and James Valner's work in 2005-6 was added in this edit by an IP from the University of York in March 2006 - without a source cited. In 2019, after Linda French's article Explaining Algol was published in Sky & Telescope, SoylentPurple added to it the sentence about Edward Topham, with a citation to French.
I'm wondering just what French's article validates: whether just the statement about Topham, or about Ellingham and Valner's work as well. The abstract, which is all I've been able to find online, only mentions "The circumstances surrounding the discovery of Algol's variation". I thought I'd ask here first if anybody had the article, before going to WP:RX.
My guess is that the paragraph was originally inserted by Ellingham or Valner, and their work may never have been published. The only thing I can find about them that isn't copied from the Wikipedia article is this: for normal purposes that confirms that they did the work, but I'm dubious whether it is a reliable source by our standards. ColinFine ( talk) 20:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)