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why the old south african flag? -- Severino 10:26, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Can we get the old South African flag replaced please? I don't think it's necessary to use the old one. -- nongolos 12:25, 02 January 2007 (UTC)
changed. -- Severino 11:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
hm, it seemed to me that the flag is shown to the "visualisation" of the nationality. in this respect it wouldnt have made sense to use the old one -- Severino 13:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
if have no objection against using the old one after you explained it. however, it could be misunderstood by others the way i did. (scheckter is a living person and his nationality is still south african and RZA now has a different flag. but dont mind, there are bigger problems ;-) -- Severino 23:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The policy on Wikipedia is actually very consistent (for a change) on issues like this. All sports figures are shown as competing under the flags they were under at the time they competed. Even athletes for Nazi Germany are shown with a swastika flag. Hence Jody Scheckter is listed under the old South African flag, but his son Tomas, currently active in the IRL, gets the new one. Jsc1973 ( talk) 08:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
-- 196.30.245.149 ( talk) 18:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Scheckter has been a USA resident for a very long time now (20 years or more, I believe) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Socrates2008 ( talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Lived in Atlanta for ages - not sure if this is still the case though, as the third article implies potential UK citizenship too!
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Either to be replaced by the new flag or to have no flag at all. I have read the previous comments about it being the flag in his racing era- but it not an appropriate reflection on him and suggests racism. The flag is placed next to his Nationality- not in a section regarding his racing career.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/21/753074028/court-limits-display-of-south-africas-old-apartheid-flag-citing-hateful-legacy 84.21.145.2 ( talk) 10:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
The flag is placed next to his Nationality- not in a section regarding his racing career.this is incorrect. The flag is displayed in the infobox in the "Formula One World Championship career" section and the Nationality title links to FIA Super Licence#Nationality of drivers. I disagree it implies any connection to racism or that it reflects poorly on him. WP:NOTCENSORED would be the relevant policy. I can't see how indicating the flag he raced under would be contrary to anything in WP:BLP, indeed, WP:OWN would suggest that this request can't override project consensus. However, I do not have a definitive answer and will consider other users' opinion before I consider declining this request. 5225C ( talk • contributions) 12:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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why the old south african flag? -- Severino 10:26, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Can we get the old South African flag replaced please? I don't think it's necessary to use the old one. -- nongolos 12:25, 02 January 2007 (UTC)
changed. -- Severino 11:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
hm, it seemed to me that the flag is shown to the "visualisation" of the nationality. in this respect it wouldnt have made sense to use the old one -- Severino 13:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
if have no objection against using the old one after you explained it. however, it could be misunderstood by others the way i did. (scheckter is a living person and his nationality is still south african and RZA now has a different flag. but dont mind, there are bigger problems ;-) -- Severino 23:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The policy on Wikipedia is actually very consistent (for a change) on issues like this. All sports figures are shown as competing under the flags they were under at the time they competed. Even athletes for Nazi Germany are shown with a swastika flag. Hence Jody Scheckter is listed under the old South African flag, but his son Tomas, currently active in the IRL, gets the new one. Jsc1973 ( talk) 08:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
-- 196.30.245.149 ( talk) 18:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Scheckter has been a USA resident for a very long time now (20 years or more, I believe) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Socrates2008 ( talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Lived in Atlanta for ages - not sure if this is still the case though, as the third article implies potential UK citizenship too!
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Socrates2008
13:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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Either to be replaced by the new flag or to have no flag at all. I have read the previous comments about it being the flag in his racing era- but it not an appropriate reflection on him and suggests racism. The flag is placed next to his Nationality- not in a section regarding his racing career.
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/21/753074028/court-limits-display-of-south-africas-old-apartheid-flag-citing-hateful-legacy 84.21.145.2 ( talk) 10:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
The flag is placed next to his Nationality- not in a section regarding his racing career.this is incorrect. The flag is displayed in the infobox in the "Formula One World Championship career" section and the Nationality title links to FIA Super Licence#Nationality of drivers. I disagree it implies any connection to racism or that it reflects poorly on him. WP:NOTCENSORED would be the relevant policy. I can't see how indicating the flag he raced under would be contrary to anything in WP:BLP, indeed, WP:OWN would suggest that this request can't override project consensus. However, I do not have a definitive answer and will consider other users' opinion before I consider declining this request. 5225C ( talk • contributions) 12:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)