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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 14:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Consensus having been reached on the move proposed below, I have moved the article accordingly. Deb 22:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Not sure when this was moved or by whom, but it was a bad call in my opinion. Joan's title as Countess of Kent was secondary to her title of Princess of Wales. (She was also Countess of Salisbury for a time.) She is invariably known as Joan of Kent, and that is where most of the links point. I propose to move her back. Deb 15:45, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
The phrase: 'but the damage was done' does not seem appropriate at all. Is the suggestion seriously that her death was caused by Richard II's refusal to pardon his brother?
Also: 'but the violent climax of the popular movement for reform reduced the feisty Joan to a state of terror, while leaving the King with an improved reputation' is really vague, and filled with loaded terms, which are not supported with any citations. It seems to conflate the Peasant's Revolt with Lollardy, despite these being two different things completely. Unless the writer was thinking of some 'violent climax' to Lollardy? The printing of the Wyclif Bible? The persecution of Lollards came well after Joan's death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NathanielTapley ( talk • contribs) 03:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
It looks like she’s holding a Cornish pasty in this picture. Do we know for sure what she’s holding and what it symbolises (if anything?) Overlordnat1 ( talk) 23:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Under Thomas Holland another daughter is listed named Maud: Maud Holland 98.198.211.216 ( talk) 14:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 14:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Consensus having been reached on the move proposed below, I have moved the article accordingly. Deb 22:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Not sure when this was moved or by whom, but it was a bad call in my opinion. Joan's title as Countess of Kent was secondary to her title of Princess of Wales. (She was also Countess of Salisbury for a time.) She is invariably known as Joan of Kent, and that is where most of the links point. I propose to move her back. Deb 15:45, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
The phrase: 'but the damage was done' does not seem appropriate at all. Is the suggestion seriously that her death was caused by Richard II's refusal to pardon his brother?
Also: 'but the violent climax of the popular movement for reform reduced the feisty Joan to a state of terror, while leaving the King with an improved reputation' is really vague, and filled with loaded terms, which are not supported with any citations. It seems to conflate the Peasant's Revolt with Lollardy, despite these being two different things completely. Unless the writer was thinking of some 'violent climax' to Lollardy? The printing of the Wyclif Bible? The persecution of Lollards came well after Joan's death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NathanielTapley ( talk • contribs) 03:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
It looks like she’s holding a Cornish pasty in this picture. Do we know for sure what she’s holding and what it symbolises (if anything?) Overlordnat1 ( talk) 23:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Under Thomas Holland another daughter is listed named Maud: Maud Holland 98.198.211.216 ( talk) 14:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)