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Ok, the individual in question, like Antoni Gaudí or Pau Casals, insisted during his life in being Catalan, being Spanish citizens at the same time; and if you accept tagging people as Scottish and not British subjects or places as in Scotland and not Scotland, UK...
Perique des Palottes 2002/07/23
Perique, I see your point on him being Catalan and the similarities with Scottish or Welsh. However, most readers of this encyclopedia, which is in the English language, will not know that Catalonia is actually a part of Spain, while they do know that Scotland is actually in Great Britain.
So, the question here is: consistency or readability. Of course I'd favour both, but writing "Catalan Spanish" doesn't look pleasing to my eyes. Maybe you can explicitly mention that "Miró considered himself to be Catalan; Catalonia is an autonomous region in Spain." or something like it.
Maybe you, or somebody else has other proposals for solving this problem? Jheijmans 02:24 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
This encyclopedia is in the English language, and this is why I think of it as neutral and international as, I hope, many of its readers will not have English as their first language and will not have a UK or US centered education or culture.
So, it is probable that they will have about the same chances of locating Virginia, Kurdistan, Wales, Catalonia, Montserrat or Denmark on the map. Or even of saying if they have been, are, o might be regions or nations or places or countries or whatever. And if they cannot, then they will be able to after reading this encyclopedia and/or following its links.
Moreover, if you want to follow that argument, there is an area named Catalonia outside of Spain as well, where people call themselves as Catalans, while Orcadians and Shetlanders do not consider themselves as Scotish, while they are usually included in the pack.
Now, any constructive proposal?
Perique des Palottes 2002/07/23
I see your point... Maybe we could try and standardise this, always mentioning the country of the person (or place, for that matter) in question (so also say Britain iso Scotland). However, this does not entirely clear us from problems, as "country" is (and certainly was) not always well defined; to keep it in Spain, I suppose many relevant (to an encyclopedia) people from Basque will consider themselves to be from that "country", which is however not recognised by anybody.
On the language topic; I agree that it is international, but it is still English language, and that means also somewhat English oriented. The island of Mallorca is at Majorca, because that's the English name for it. But, no, that doesn't mean it should become US/UK-centered, I agree.
Jheijmans 02:58 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
That "catalan-spanish" definition is clearly an anachronism, its use is very recent and it is used mainly by nationalists, implying connotations as two different identities or nationalities, not complementating ones (that is Scottish-English, not Scottish-British; if we could really compare it, because comparing Great Britain with Spain isn't very accurate neither).
I also think it is biased to put the link of Catalan to "Catalan people" and not Catalonia while puting the link of Spanish to "Spain".
Also are we going to put in all Andalusian notable Spaniards as "Andalusian-Spanish"? Or even are we going to define dictator Francisco Franco as Galician-Spanish? Franco didn't denied being Galician and Spanish.
I think the better option should be "a Spanish painter, sculptor and ceramist born in Barcelona, Catalonia." or anything that would define himself as one of both identities and then specifying (being the structure "Spanish and inside Spain, Catalonian", or "Catalan, which is part of Spain"), but I can't find the formula with my not so good english. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.26.84.138 ( talk • contribs) 13 November 2006.
I think the Catalan speaking world box should be removed from this page for 2 reasons:
"Catalan-speaking world" template is a brilliant idea in order to link toghether some disperse articles on catalan culture that trascend the estrict territory of Catalonia, avoiding the politically charged term "Catalan countries". Such an effort to use language as a method to split differences should always be encouraged and I support it. This template supplies useful information and introduces issues (even unexpected) on the Catalan culture. So I welcome it in articles like Catalonia, Menorca, Catalan-language, Catalan architecture or History of Andorra...
It is possible that this information can have no relevance to a user looking information on Miró, in particular the Government or Geographics issues. I mean that the template have not the same use in both directions: it's useful to somebody that focus on "Barcelona" and afterwards found Miró, and not that useful to sombody that looks for "Surrealism" and afterwards found Miró. I think this is the central point of the controversy. I have not a solid opinion on it. Maybe a "Catalan-speaking culture" template can help, but visual arts seems to be excluded... -- Joan sense nick 00:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the Template:Catalan-speaking world shouldn't be here. IMHO only a part of it (Arts) belongs here. I hope you agree so as to edit the article. yanis 11:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
— —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.17.207.126 ( talk) 20:59, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
How does one pronounce his first name? I suppose I want to know how it is pronounced in Catalan (ie how he pronounced it) as well as how the English speaking art community commonly pronounces it (if different). I have seen 4 different pronunciations on the internet : ho-an, hwan, jo-an, and zho-an. Mauvila 03:37, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Yes, the one that I have always used, and likewise for the name Juan is 'hwan', with a slight guttural sound on the H. It sounds like 'one' but with an 'h' in front. I am from England and have never heard it pronounced differently. Vanderdecken 15:37, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
"Joan Miró" should be pronounced in Catalan as [Zu'an mi'ro], or in pseudo-english spelling joo-AHN mee-RAW. Perique des Palottes 10:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Lots of great facts, but the writing is disjointed. Minor cleanup needed.
Has the above debate ever been officialy settled? Lampros 05:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. There should be clear information about where he was born, where he was died, etc. Geyiming93 20:45 29 March 2007 خیلی آدم انیه
What did Joan Miró die of?
Thank You in Advance
Joan Maxwell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.74.21.46 ( talk) 2006-03-03t21:12:29z
Miró died of heart disease.
Does anyone know why his work is on the Google logo today?– Clpalmore 4:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure exactly what the emphasis in your question is... do you mean "why him?" or "why today?" or "why google decided to do this?" etc. If you mean "why today?", it's because it is his birthday(113th). Lookingforgroup 04:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
--- Sorry Miro is no longer on Google's homepage cos of some controversial claims from Miro's Family and the ARS, Philipp Lessen's Blogscoped has more on it. As of Thursday afternoon, Google removed the logo after being threatened with a breach of copyright lawsuit by the Miro Family, to me this sounds ridiculous but again.. that's what happened. Cheers, Angelo @ Google's World 82.194.62.22 09:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
"Google" was created very Miro-esque that day because it was his birthday. —The preceding
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I cannot figure it out. In the External Links section there is a link to "Miró at Olga's Picture Gallery". But it actually leads to some weird page ( http://www paraparapu com/) although in the page source I can only see the proper link ( http://www.halter.net/gallery/miro-os.html). Any idea why?... aiks 07:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Considering this is an article about a significant artist from pre-google days, I don't see why the reference to the google-logo in miro-style is necessary; looks more like spam to me and I suggest to remove the line.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.8.98 ( talk) 2006-04-20t08:30:34z
The used Miro's birthday to throw off national pot day, and Hitler's birthday as well.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.222.139.161 ( talk) 2006-04-20t13:05:02z
Hi,
This page needs some reorganization, as well as a way to make sure that the link for Google, always returns the special Logo created for Joan Miró. Just having a link to Google, will stop showing the logo a day after. Chirag 15:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Now that is surreal!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.46.162 ( talk) 2006-04-20t17:41:55z
This will annoy us all day. lots of issues | leave me a message 18:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the section wich covered the Joan Miro logo incident. The issue is covered on the Google logo page, which is a more appropriate location. Also, the entry is clearly plagarized from Slashdot. (I'm making the assumption that the two do not share common authorship.) See the original Slashdot writeup, the section in this article is clearly not original writing. Oasisbob 00:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Anonymous Coward writes "In a homage to Joan Miro on his birthday, Google changed its logo as to spell out the word "Google" in Miro's style. Google has a history of changing its logo in order to commemorate events and holidays of particular significance. In this case, the homage was not well received by the Miro family or the Artists Rights Society which represents them, as reported by the Mercury News. According to Theodore Feder, president of the ARS, "There are underlying copyrights to the works of Miro, and they are putting it up without having the rights". The ARS demanded that Google removed the logo, and Google complied, though not without adding that it did not believe it was in violation of copyright. The ARS has raised similar complaints regarding Google's tribute to Salvador Dali in 2002. "It's a distortion of the original works and in that respect it violates the moral rights of the artist," Feder said." It seems to me that the art world has a glorious history of incorporating prior art into modern creations. It's amusing to me that ARS doesn't understand that.
Section in question:
On April 20, 2006 (Miró's birthday) Google unveiled a tribute logo in honor of Miró's contribution to the art world. Google frequently alters their logo for a single day to honor a holiday or other occasion. The Artists Rights Society (on behalf of the family of Miró) asked Google to remove the logo, alleging that portions of specific artworks by Miró were utilized without permission. According to Theodore Feder, president of ARS, "there are underlying copyrights to the works of Miró, and they are putting it up without having the rights". Google complied with the request, but denied that there was any violation of copyright. This is not the first time that ARS has contacted Google. In May of 2002, they asked Google to remove a logo that incorporated portions of works by Salvador Dalí, which Google later removed. Feder remarked, "It's a distortion of the original works and in that respect it violates the moral rights of the artist.
Although the wording has been slightly altered, the summary is a clear duplication, sentence by sentence:
The Slashdot article was not cited, this is clearly plagiarism. Oasisbob 22:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know were I can get some comentary on Miros work, Im doing a project on him for spanish and I need to know where I can get some comentary (English or Spanish) (The MAtrix Pwns you) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neoanderson2003 ( talk • contribs) 2 May 2006.
I'm doing a project too and need help. —The preceding
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"in his words "murder" and "assassinate" and or "rape" them" Can we find a source for this refrence, prehaps an in-context quote? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.248.248.254 ( talk • contribs) 4 May 2006.
We are an international fine art gallery and publisher located in Scottsdale, AZ. We represent the original works of Joan Miro including aquatints, carborundums, and lithographs. We are secondary market specialist in buying and selling and our focus is that of the original 20th century masters including Warhol, Picasso, Miro, Botero, Rockwell, Wyeth and more. Is it possible to be added to your External Links for Miro as a source to acquire his works?
You can visit our website at www.americanfineartgallery.com, not all of the artists we represent are currently listed on our site, we are working on reconstuction of it to include all of the artists we feature.
Thank You, American Fine Art Editions, Inc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artpub ( talk • contribs) 19 May 2006.
Support As the 4D article is now a 1-liner stub is support. If the 4D article develops further it might warrant its own article though Arnoutf 17:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm trimming commercial external links that don't have much Miró material. I'm of two minds about the FantasyArts.net link: there are rather decent reproductions of half a dozen interesting pieces, but there are also an awful lot of ads (through Google AsSense, it appears). Others' thoughts? - Jmabel | Talk 05:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Similarly for abcgallery.com. Very nice material, but really annoying animated GIFs, pop-ups, etc. - Jmabel | Talk 05:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I reworded the section about an award he was given "for all his works" in "Miro Museum, found in the United States".
But the bigger problem is - what is this museum? Can anyone provide a source?
Thanks in advance. -- Amir E. Aharoni 16:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Joan Miro's "La caresse des etoiles," was sold to an anonymous bidder for $ 17 million at Christie's auction in New York on May 6, 2008. Afp.google.com, Monet fetches record price at New York auction -- Florentino floro ( talk) 07:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Who is Jean Miro? Is Jean Miro Joan Miro or is Jean Miro someone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.251.194.18 ( talk) 18:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that Miro was a member of Gen of '27, which was primarily a grouping of poets. He is not listed in the Wikipedia article Generation of '27, which includes a list of members. Also I can't find independent information that he was a member.
Furthermore, the current discussion is very tangential (e.g. no need to mention Bunuel - who, incidentally, is also not listed in the Generation of '27 article). Saying that he was exiled from the Franco regime is misleading left as it is, since he did return to Spain from 1940.
I am proposing removing mention of Gen of '27, replacing it by more explicit information about Miro's movements between Spain and Paris. Mozzy66 ( talk) 12:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
The catalogue of the 1964 Miro exhibition [1] says that his mother was the daughter of a cabinet maker while the article says watchmaker. Anyone able to resolve this apparent contradiction? Rjm at sleepers ( talk) 10:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
References
Hi, I've been moving lots of stuff around here. I'm using pages like Vincent van Gogh as a guide. Some of the material (e.g. Joan_Miro#Experimental_style is very uncited and needs tidying and expansion, at the least.
Please help, and provide comment if there are any issues with these changes. Mozzy66 ( talk) 12:13, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I did a brief copy edit of the article and had a few sections that I thought might need some clarity, in case someone feels the urge to expand on his work a bit. Miró is an artist who deserves a good or featured article, so perhaps this can help to make that happen eventually. There is also a trivia section that needs to be reworked per WP:TRIV. Some might think these are trivial, but as an art historian/Wikipedian they were some things that popped into my head while reading the article:
This entire section needs to be copyedited. It's tough to read, perhaps aspects are lost in translation. I found myself having to re-read sections over and over again, and the lack of description of the artworks mentioned makes it even harder to understand some of the concepts. A few examples (but there are more):
Just some ideas! :) Great work on expanding the article!!! SarahStierch ( talk) 03:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Look at the pictures on this wiki: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Mir%C3%B3?uselang=cs. Something like this would be needed. Hafspajen ( talk) 14:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
So-called ethnicity can matter concerning visual art. The world is not homogenous. This is reflected in the presence on Wikipedia of such articles as French art and Spanish art and School of Paris and New York School. I oppose edits such as this and this. Bus stop ( talk) 14:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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Ok, the individual in question, like Antoni Gaudí or Pau Casals, insisted during his life in being Catalan, being Spanish citizens at the same time; and if you accept tagging people as Scottish and not British subjects or places as in Scotland and not Scotland, UK...
Perique des Palottes 2002/07/23
Perique, I see your point on him being Catalan and the similarities with Scottish or Welsh. However, most readers of this encyclopedia, which is in the English language, will not know that Catalonia is actually a part of Spain, while they do know that Scotland is actually in Great Britain.
So, the question here is: consistency or readability. Of course I'd favour both, but writing "Catalan Spanish" doesn't look pleasing to my eyes. Maybe you can explicitly mention that "Miró considered himself to be Catalan; Catalonia is an autonomous region in Spain." or something like it.
Maybe you, or somebody else has other proposals for solving this problem? Jheijmans 02:24 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
This encyclopedia is in the English language, and this is why I think of it as neutral and international as, I hope, many of its readers will not have English as their first language and will not have a UK or US centered education or culture.
So, it is probable that they will have about the same chances of locating Virginia, Kurdistan, Wales, Catalonia, Montserrat or Denmark on the map. Or even of saying if they have been, are, o might be regions or nations or places or countries or whatever. And if they cannot, then they will be able to after reading this encyclopedia and/or following its links.
Moreover, if you want to follow that argument, there is an area named Catalonia outside of Spain as well, where people call themselves as Catalans, while Orcadians and Shetlanders do not consider themselves as Scotish, while they are usually included in the pack.
Now, any constructive proposal?
Perique des Palottes 2002/07/23
I see your point... Maybe we could try and standardise this, always mentioning the country of the person (or place, for that matter) in question (so also say Britain iso Scotland). However, this does not entirely clear us from problems, as "country" is (and certainly was) not always well defined; to keep it in Spain, I suppose many relevant (to an encyclopedia) people from Basque will consider themselves to be from that "country", which is however not recognised by anybody.
On the language topic; I agree that it is international, but it is still English language, and that means also somewhat English oriented. The island of Mallorca is at Majorca, because that's the English name for it. But, no, that doesn't mean it should become US/UK-centered, I agree.
Jheijmans 02:58 Jul 23, 2002 (PDT)
That "catalan-spanish" definition is clearly an anachronism, its use is very recent and it is used mainly by nationalists, implying connotations as two different identities or nationalities, not complementating ones (that is Scottish-English, not Scottish-British; if we could really compare it, because comparing Great Britain with Spain isn't very accurate neither).
I also think it is biased to put the link of Catalan to "Catalan people" and not Catalonia while puting the link of Spanish to "Spain".
Also are we going to put in all Andalusian notable Spaniards as "Andalusian-Spanish"? Or even are we going to define dictator Francisco Franco as Galician-Spanish? Franco didn't denied being Galician and Spanish.
I think the better option should be "a Spanish painter, sculptor and ceramist born in Barcelona, Catalonia." or anything that would define himself as one of both identities and then specifying (being the structure "Spanish and inside Spain, Catalonian", or "Catalan, which is part of Spain"), but I can't find the formula with my not so good english. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.26.84.138 ( talk • contribs) 13 November 2006.
I think the Catalan speaking world box should be removed from this page for 2 reasons:
"Catalan-speaking world" template is a brilliant idea in order to link toghether some disperse articles on catalan culture that trascend the estrict territory of Catalonia, avoiding the politically charged term "Catalan countries". Such an effort to use language as a method to split differences should always be encouraged and I support it. This template supplies useful information and introduces issues (even unexpected) on the Catalan culture. So I welcome it in articles like Catalonia, Menorca, Catalan-language, Catalan architecture or History of Andorra...
It is possible that this information can have no relevance to a user looking information on Miró, in particular the Government or Geographics issues. I mean that the template have not the same use in both directions: it's useful to somebody that focus on "Barcelona" and afterwards found Miró, and not that useful to sombody that looks for "Surrealism" and afterwards found Miró. I think this is the central point of the controversy. I have not a solid opinion on it. Maybe a "Catalan-speaking culture" template can help, but visual arts seems to be excluded... -- Joan sense nick 00:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the Template:Catalan-speaking world shouldn't be here. IMHO only a part of it (Arts) belongs here. I hope you agree so as to edit the article. yanis 11:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
— —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.17.207.126 ( talk) 20:59, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
How does one pronounce his first name? I suppose I want to know how it is pronounced in Catalan (ie how he pronounced it) as well as how the English speaking art community commonly pronounces it (if different). I have seen 4 different pronunciations on the internet : ho-an, hwan, jo-an, and zho-an. Mauvila 03:37, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Yes, the one that I have always used, and likewise for the name Juan is 'hwan', with a slight guttural sound on the H. It sounds like 'one' but with an 'h' in front. I am from England and have never heard it pronounced differently. Vanderdecken 15:37, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
"Joan Miró" should be pronounced in Catalan as [Zu'an mi'ro], or in pseudo-english spelling joo-AHN mee-RAW. Perique des Palottes 10:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Lots of great facts, but the writing is disjointed. Minor cleanup needed.
Has the above debate ever been officialy settled? Lampros 05:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. There should be clear information about where he was born, where he was died, etc. Geyiming93 20:45 29 March 2007 خیلی آدم انیه
What did Joan Miró die of?
Thank You in Advance
Joan Maxwell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.74.21.46 ( talk) 2006-03-03t21:12:29z
Miró died of heart disease.
Does anyone know why his work is on the Google logo today?– Clpalmore 4:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure exactly what the emphasis in your question is... do you mean "why him?" or "why today?" or "why google decided to do this?" etc. If you mean "why today?", it's because it is his birthday(113th). Lookingforgroup 04:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
--- Sorry Miro is no longer on Google's homepage cos of some controversial claims from Miro's Family and the ARS, Philipp Lessen's Blogscoped has more on it. As of Thursday afternoon, Google removed the logo after being threatened with a breach of copyright lawsuit by the Miro Family, to me this sounds ridiculous but again.. that's what happened. Cheers, Angelo @ Google's World 82.194.62.22 09:18, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
"Google" was created very Miro-esque that day because it was his birthday. —The preceding
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I cannot figure it out. In the External Links section there is a link to "Miró at Olga's Picture Gallery". But it actually leads to some weird page ( http://www paraparapu com/) although in the page source I can only see the proper link ( http://www.halter.net/gallery/miro-os.html). Any idea why?... aiks 07:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Considering this is an article about a significant artist from pre-google days, I don't see why the reference to the google-logo in miro-style is necessary; looks more like spam to me and I suggest to remove the line.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.8.98 ( talk) 2006-04-20t08:30:34z
The used Miro's birthday to throw off national pot day, and Hitler's birthday as well.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.222.139.161 ( talk) 2006-04-20t13:05:02z
Hi,
This page needs some reorganization, as well as a way to make sure that the link for Google, always returns the special Logo created for Joan Miró. Just having a link to Google, will stop showing the logo a day after. Chirag 15:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Now that is surreal!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.46.162 ( talk) 2006-04-20t17:41:55z
This will annoy us all day. lots of issues | leave me a message 18:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the section wich covered the Joan Miro logo incident. The issue is covered on the Google logo page, which is a more appropriate location. Also, the entry is clearly plagarized from Slashdot. (I'm making the assumption that the two do not share common authorship.) See the original Slashdot writeup, the section in this article is clearly not original writing. Oasisbob 00:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Anonymous Coward writes "In a homage to Joan Miro on his birthday, Google changed its logo as to spell out the word "Google" in Miro's style. Google has a history of changing its logo in order to commemorate events and holidays of particular significance. In this case, the homage was not well received by the Miro family or the Artists Rights Society which represents them, as reported by the Mercury News. According to Theodore Feder, president of the ARS, "There are underlying copyrights to the works of Miro, and they are putting it up without having the rights". The ARS demanded that Google removed the logo, and Google complied, though not without adding that it did not believe it was in violation of copyright. The ARS has raised similar complaints regarding Google's tribute to Salvador Dali in 2002. "It's a distortion of the original works and in that respect it violates the moral rights of the artist," Feder said." It seems to me that the art world has a glorious history of incorporating prior art into modern creations. It's amusing to me that ARS doesn't understand that.
Section in question:
On April 20, 2006 (Miró's birthday) Google unveiled a tribute logo in honor of Miró's contribution to the art world. Google frequently alters their logo for a single day to honor a holiday or other occasion. The Artists Rights Society (on behalf of the family of Miró) asked Google to remove the logo, alleging that portions of specific artworks by Miró were utilized without permission. According to Theodore Feder, president of ARS, "there are underlying copyrights to the works of Miró, and they are putting it up without having the rights". Google complied with the request, but denied that there was any violation of copyright. This is not the first time that ARS has contacted Google. In May of 2002, they asked Google to remove a logo that incorporated portions of works by Salvador Dalí, which Google later removed. Feder remarked, "It's a distortion of the original works and in that respect it violates the moral rights of the artist.
Although the wording has been slightly altered, the summary is a clear duplication, sentence by sentence:
The Slashdot article was not cited, this is clearly plagiarism. Oasisbob 22:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone know were I can get some comentary on Miros work, Im doing a project on him for spanish and I need to know where I can get some comentary (English or Spanish) (The MAtrix Pwns you) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neoanderson2003 ( talk • contribs) 2 May 2006.
I'm doing a project too and need help. —The preceding
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"in his words "murder" and "assassinate" and or "rape" them" Can we find a source for this refrence, prehaps an in-context quote? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.248.248.254 ( talk • contribs) 4 May 2006.
We are an international fine art gallery and publisher located in Scottsdale, AZ. We represent the original works of Joan Miro including aquatints, carborundums, and lithographs. We are secondary market specialist in buying and selling and our focus is that of the original 20th century masters including Warhol, Picasso, Miro, Botero, Rockwell, Wyeth and more. Is it possible to be added to your External Links for Miro as a source to acquire his works?
You can visit our website at www.americanfineartgallery.com, not all of the artists we represent are currently listed on our site, we are working on reconstuction of it to include all of the artists we feature.
Thank You, American Fine Art Editions, Inc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Artpub ( talk • contribs) 19 May 2006.
Support As the 4D article is now a 1-liner stub is support. If the 4D article develops further it might warrant its own article though Arnoutf 17:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm trimming commercial external links that don't have much Miró material. I'm of two minds about the FantasyArts.net link: there are rather decent reproductions of half a dozen interesting pieces, but there are also an awful lot of ads (through Google AsSense, it appears). Others' thoughts? - Jmabel | Talk 05:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Similarly for abcgallery.com. Very nice material, but really annoying animated GIFs, pop-ups, etc. - Jmabel | Talk 05:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I reworded the section about an award he was given "for all his works" in "Miro Museum, found in the United States".
But the bigger problem is - what is this museum? Can anyone provide a source?
Thanks in advance. -- Amir E. Aharoni 16:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Joan Miro's "La caresse des etoiles," was sold to an anonymous bidder for $ 17 million at Christie's auction in New York on May 6, 2008. Afp.google.com, Monet fetches record price at New York auction -- Florentino floro ( talk) 07:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Who is Jean Miro? Is Jean Miro Joan Miro or is Jean Miro someone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.251.194.18 ( talk) 18:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that Miro was a member of Gen of '27, which was primarily a grouping of poets. He is not listed in the Wikipedia article Generation of '27, which includes a list of members. Also I can't find independent information that he was a member.
Furthermore, the current discussion is very tangential (e.g. no need to mention Bunuel - who, incidentally, is also not listed in the Generation of '27 article). Saying that he was exiled from the Franco regime is misleading left as it is, since he did return to Spain from 1940.
I am proposing removing mention of Gen of '27, replacing it by more explicit information about Miro's movements between Spain and Paris. Mozzy66 ( talk) 12:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
The catalogue of the 1964 Miro exhibition [1] says that his mother was the daughter of a cabinet maker while the article says watchmaker. Anyone able to resolve this apparent contradiction? Rjm at sleepers ( talk) 10:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
References
Hi, I've been moving lots of stuff around here. I'm using pages like Vincent van Gogh as a guide. Some of the material (e.g. Joan_Miro#Experimental_style is very uncited and needs tidying and expansion, at the least.
Please help, and provide comment if there are any issues with these changes. Mozzy66 ( talk) 12:13, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone. I did a brief copy edit of the article and had a few sections that I thought might need some clarity, in case someone feels the urge to expand on his work a bit. Miró is an artist who deserves a good or featured article, so perhaps this can help to make that happen eventually. There is also a trivia section that needs to be reworked per WP:TRIV. Some might think these are trivial, but as an art historian/Wikipedian they were some things that popped into my head while reading the article:
This entire section needs to be copyedited. It's tough to read, perhaps aspects are lost in translation. I found myself having to re-read sections over and over again, and the lack of description of the artworks mentioned makes it even harder to understand some of the concepts. A few examples (but there are more):
Just some ideas! :) Great work on expanding the article!!! SarahStierch ( talk) 03:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Look at the pictures on this wiki: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Mir%C3%B3?uselang=cs. Something like this would be needed. Hafspajen ( talk) 14:05, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
So-called ethnicity can matter concerning visual art. The world is not homogenous. This is reflected in the presence on Wikipedia of such articles as French art and Spanish art and School of Paris and New York School. I oppose edits such as this and this. Bus stop ( talk) 14:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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