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This occurred in 1974, when the Whitlam government was in power federally, and in accordance with Labor Party policy they never recommended any knighthoods or damehoods. Was it a non-Labor state government that made the recommendation, or possibly the UK government? Any ideas? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 01:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
She is both, as she was born in New Zealand and was probably naturalised as an Australian. Wallie ( talk) 10:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Wallie, re this supposed "naturalisation" as an Australian: Joan Hammond was born in New Zealand in May 1912 and moved to Australia in around November 1912. At that time, both New Zealand and Australia were populated by British subjects. There were exactly zero New Zealand citizens, because New Zealand citizenship did not exist till 1 January 1949. And there were exactly zero Australian citizens, because Australian citizenship did not exist till 26 January 1949. The first time anyone was ever naturalised an Australian citizen was some time after 25 January 1949. British subjects resident in Australia on 26 January 1949, such as Joan Hammond, automatically became Australian citizens on that day, without any need for "naturalisation". So, she went from being a British subject to an Australian citizen. She was never at any time in her life a New Zealand citizen. She was born there and spent the first 6 months of her life there, that's all. It's worthy of mention as part of her overall story, but does it in any way contribute to what she was notable for? Answer: No, in no way. Therefore, it does not belong in the lede paragraph. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 05:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Her lesbianism was something she never hid. Her "loving companion Lolita Marriott" is mentioned proudly on her gravestone. Are we being coy about this for any particular reason? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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This occurred in 1974, when the Whitlam government was in power federally, and in accordance with Labor Party policy they never recommended any knighthoods or damehoods. Was it a non-Labor state government that made the recommendation, or possibly the UK government? Any ideas? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 01:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
She is both, as she was born in New Zealand and was probably naturalised as an Australian. Wallie ( talk) 10:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Wallie, re this supposed "naturalisation" as an Australian: Joan Hammond was born in New Zealand in May 1912 and moved to Australia in around November 1912. At that time, both New Zealand and Australia were populated by British subjects. There were exactly zero New Zealand citizens, because New Zealand citizenship did not exist till 1 January 1949. And there were exactly zero Australian citizens, because Australian citizenship did not exist till 26 January 1949. The first time anyone was ever naturalised an Australian citizen was some time after 25 January 1949. British subjects resident in Australia on 26 January 1949, such as Joan Hammond, automatically became Australian citizens on that day, without any need for "naturalisation". So, she went from being a British subject to an Australian citizen. She was never at any time in her life a New Zealand citizen. She was born there and spent the first 6 months of her life there, that's all. It's worthy of mention as part of her overall story, but does it in any way contribute to what she was notable for? Answer: No, in no way. Therefore, it does not belong in the lede paragraph. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 05:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Her lesbianism was something she never hid. Her "loving companion Lolita Marriott" is mentioned proudly on her gravestone. Are we being coy about this for any particular reason? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 19:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
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