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Why is Jira allowed when all references are from the developers site and competition software is not allowed? I see pages for other solutions added and then later they are gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.24.55 ( talk) 07:00, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Skype is not open-source and does not belong under that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparcdr ( talk • contribs) 11:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this article have an unnecessarily negative tone to it?
"Starter licenses are also available for Confluence, GreenHopper, Bamboo, FishEye and Crowd."
Um, what relevance does that have to an article about JIRA?
"In an evaluation in October 2006,[28] the official website of the Python programming language considered a move from SourceForge to a different issue management system,[29] with Launchpad, JIRA, Roundup and Trac suggested as replacement systems. The discussion (with most comparisons between Jira and Roundup) resulted in a decision for Roundup.[30]
In 2007, a request was made to the Eclipse community to replace Bugzilla with JIRA. The response was that migration would "cost" too much, no benefit could be seen in JIRA over Bugzilla, it was more difficult to configure for the individual user particularly for email preferences, and JIRA is not open source.[31]"
Yes, yes, there are hundreds of evaluations going on all the time and sometimes one product wins and sometimes another product wins. What notability do these two paragraphs have for an article about JIRA?
"Security
In April 2010 an XSS vulnerability in JIRA was the stepping stone to the compromise of key Apache Software Foundation servers.[32]"
Again, there are hundreds (thousands?) of significant security breaches occuring every day. Why is this notable? And it wasn't the stepping stone, it was one of the techniques involved. And it wasn't "key Apache Software Foundation servers", it was a couple of servers used for project management, if I understand it right. And the company that makes JIRA fixed the vulnerability promptly.
I would like to try editing this article to make the tone more neutral, if nobody has any objections. Thanks. RenniePet ( talk) 15:07, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
How or where do you install it? Does it need servers/services? What services does it need? Which servers does it need? That is, does it need a web server? Does it need a Java server? Does it need Apache Web Server, or can it run from IBM Websphere, or can it run from any generic web server? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.162.148 ( talk) 08:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
According to the link https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/jira there is no reference to free use for Open Source projects or any of the other things claimed here at Wikipedia… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Backfromquadrangle ( talk • contribs) 16:04, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Specifically they used the word "decommissioned" yet said "If you have an open issue we will continue to work through these, however, you will not receive any more updates on their status." so maybe they're still using it even though external access to it has been withdrawn. I'm not sure if this warrants removal of reference to Skype or whether it should simply be a case of adding this point. Harry The Bustard ( talk) 23:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Could we keep the original statement, minus Skype and plus RTR and Etsy? I have worked at both and it is utilized heavily there. It would become... "Some of the organizations using JIRA for bug-tracking and project management are Linden Lab,[11] JBoss,[12] Spring Framework,[13] Hibernate,[14] Fedora Commons,[15] Rent the Runway
[1] and Etsy."
[2]
Hsdouglas (
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01:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)HSDouglas
Why is Jira in all caps here? Does it stand for something? Every other time I see something which is normally written in uppercase, I found that a Wikipedia editor has fixed the case, explaining that just because a name is stylistically written in uppercase, doesn't mean that the name itself is uppercase. 203.30.72.10 ( talk) 23:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
After some edits, use is now split. The text uses Jira, but the page title and the name over the box is JIRA. It's also listed in all caps in the disambiguation page. Should the page be renamed "Jira (software)"? 72.22.163.41 ( talk) 19:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
[Michael T. Bunney, 2015-07-09] Companies often use product or company names in all caps to make them stand out. When I worked as a newspaper editor I saw this often in press releases. Editors routinely normalize the casing. Sometimes magazines put their name in all caps when referring to themselves. While legitmate uses of capitalization should be followed (for example, McDonald's and IBM -- not Mcdonald's and Ibm), in cases where a company uses all caps when there is no rationale for doing so other than to make it stand out, the capitalization should be seen as a form of emphasis (like bold or italics) that is not intrinsically part of the name itself, and it should be removed. Hence: Jira.
FWIW, I recently noticed Confluence correcting my capitalization from JIRA to Jira. And their documentation pages have started using Jira. Compare Administering JIRA Server 7.5 applications (all-caps) with Administering Jira Cloud applications. — tbc ( talk) 23:59, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
According to https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Is-it-quot-JIRA-quot-or-quot-Jira-quot/qaq-p/681163, it was officially changed from 'JIRA' to 'Jira' in 2017 following a rebrand. Saw-lau ( talk) 15:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. The language of MOS:TM argues against using upper case in article names only for style reasons, when the title is not an acronym. There's also a local majority for the move (about 9 to 3). There's no reason to believe that the majority's reading of policy and guidelines is incorrect. In the wild, both upper and lower case are seen. As IIO notes, this 'Jira' is a reference to Godzilla and is not an acronym. MOS:TM says: Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one.. It's always puzzling when WP:COMMONNAME is used as an argument in a style discussion, since we go with Wikipedia style even if another style is more common. However, all MOS:TM is saying is, 'don't apply the Wikipedia downcasing to the name if the result will be a version of the name that nobody ever uses'. Obviously, people *do* use the lowercase style even if it may not be more common. EdJohnston ( talk) 20:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
JIRA →
Jira (software) – Per
MOS:TM /
MOS:ALLCAPS ("avoid: TIME, KISS, ASUS"): Lots of organizations and brand names like to use all-caps name styling to try to make themselves stand out from the crowd and appear more important. It's an annoying practice that Wikipedia should generally not follow. Please see prior comments on Talk page. This is not an acronym – just purely promotional styling. —
BarrelProof (
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Andrewa (
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16:02, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
jira bug tracking -wikipedia
at Google, this does not rise to the "universally spelled that way" level that, say, iPod does. There's no reason to make an iPod or Deadmau5 type of exception here. The sources just don't support it. The fact of the matter is that coders and the blogs they publish tend to write it JIRA because that's how they see it in the logo, and most of them surely assume it's an acronym. I did, and configure software packages like this as part of my living. (lots of the very same people refer to postgres when the actual product name is PostgreSQL, because, contrariwise, they're more familiar with the commandline name of the tool than with its formal name. Nerds are a fickle lot.) It's the same thing as music magazines rendering KISS, CLIEИT, and NIИ that way because logos do so. It's an
insider convention to visually emulate trademarks, a convention that WP has explicitly rejected for ages with only the rarest exceptions, based on a near-total absence of the non-stylized form in the real world. —
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I have raised [5] this example at Wikipedia talk:Article titles#A perfect example, please comment there. Andrewa ( talk) 16:35, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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Re: my edit of the page for JIRA ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jira_(software)&oldid=prev&diff=739586239). It was about "JIRA bugs being abbreviated to JB". I've been working with JIRA for 5+ years in different companies and I've never, ever seen anybody refer to a JIRA bug as "JB"; nor is it mentioned anywhere in the official JIRA documentation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walenzack ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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It's not general information about the subject or bug reports or change logs about it. Adding some fact about (last edit wins) it is not really saying anything of value. If you want to add it, a reliable, secondary source should be found to support this or any "bug" you may think of adding, lest the article become a coat-rack for everyone's personal peeves with the web app. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
First WP:PRIMARY sources "may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them." There is no interpretation of the information so it may be used here. The issue about over reliance on primary sources is one about notability, not reliability. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
It can be misleading to focus on the number of sources from a given domain. A primary source is appropriate for the claim "Jira integrates with Subversion", and if that information happens to be on a different atlassian.com page than another linked in the same sentence, that's fine. Better to ask:
Please consider a request to add "Work management" in the function items. Example: genre = Bug tracking system, Project management software, Work management software Mocha c jp ( talk) 23:16, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I would like to add Along with "Comparison of issue-tracking systems". Mocha c jp ( talk) 06:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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Why is Jira allowed when all references are from the developers site and competition software is not allowed? I see pages for other solutions added and then later they are gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.24.55 ( talk) 07:00, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Skype is not open-source and does not belong under that section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparcdr ( talk • contribs) 11:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this article have an unnecessarily negative tone to it?
"Starter licenses are also available for Confluence, GreenHopper, Bamboo, FishEye and Crowd."
Um, what relevance does that have to an article about JIRA?
"In an evaluation in October 2006,[28] the official website of the Python programming language considered a move from SourceForge to a different issue management system,[29] with Launchpad, JIRA, Roundup and Trac suggested as replacement systems. The discussion (with most comparisons between Jira and Roundup) resulted in a decision for Roundup.[30]
In 2007, a request was made to the Eclipse community to replace Bugzilla with JIRA. The response was that migration would "cost" too much, no benefit could be seen in JIRA over Bugzilla, it was more difficult to configure for the individual user particularly for email preferences, and JIRA is not open source.[31]"
Yes, yes, there are hundreds of evaluations going on all the time and sometimes one product wins and sometimes another product wins. What notability do these two paragraphs have for an article about JIRA?
"Security
In April 2010 an XSS vulnerability in JIRA was the stepping stone to the compromise of key Apache Software Foundation servers.[32]"
Again, there are hundreds (thousands?) of significant security breaches occuring every day. Why is this notable? And it wasn't the stepping stone, it was one of the techniques involved. And it wasn't "key Apache Software Foundation servers", it was a couple of servers used for project management, if I understand it right. And the company that makes JIRA fixed the vulnerability promptly.
I would like to try editing this article to make the tone more neutral, if nobody has any objections. Thanks. RenniePet ( talk) 15:07, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
How or where do you install it? Does it need servers/services? What services does it need? Which servers does it need? That is, does it need a web server? Does it need a Java server? Does it need Apache Web Server, or can it run from IBM Websphere, or can it run from any generic web server? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.162.148 ( talk) 08:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
According to the link https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/jira there is no reference to free use for Open Source projects or any of the other things claimed here at Wikipedia… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Backfromquadrangle ( talk • contribs) 16:04, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Specifically they used the word "decommissioned" yet said "If you have an open issue we will continue to work through these, however, you will not receive any more updates on their status." so maybe they're still using it even though external access to it has been withdrawn. I'm not sure if this warrants removal of reference to Skype or whether it should simply be a case of adding this point. Harry The Bustard ( talk) 23:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Could we keep the original statement, minus Skype and plus RTR and Etsy? I have worked at both and it is utilized heavily there. It would become... "Some of the organizations using JIRA for bug-tracking and project management are Linden Lab,[11] JBoss,[12] Spring Framework,[13] Hibernate,[14] Fedora Commons,[15] Rent the Runway
[1] and Etsy."
[2]
Hsdouglas (
talk)
01:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)HSDouglas
Why is Jira in all caps here? Does it stand for something? Every other time I see something which is normally written in uppercase, I found that a Wikipedia editor has fixed the case, explaining that just because a name is stylistically written in uppercase, doesn't mean that the name itself is uppercase. 203.30.72.10 ( talk) 23:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
After some edits, use is now split. The text uses Jira, but the page title and the name over the box is JIRA. It's also listed in all caps in the disambiguation page. Should the page be renamed "Jira (software)"? 72.22.163.41 ( talk) 19:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
[Michael T. Bunney, 2015-07-09] Companies often use product or company names in all caps to make them stand out. When I worked as a newspaper editor I saw this often in press releases. Editors routinely normalize the casing. Sometimes magazines put their name in all caps when referring to themselves. While legitmate uses of capitalization should be followed (for example, McDonald's and IBM -- not Mcdonald's and Ibm), in cases where a company uses all caps when there is no rationale for doing so other than to make it stand out, the capitalization should be seen as a form of emphasis (like bold or italics) that is not intrinsically part of the name itself, and it should be removed. Hence: Jira.
FWIW, I recently noticed Confluence correcting my capitalization from JIRA to Jira. And their documentation pages have started using Jira. Compare Administering JIRA Server 7.5 applications (all-caps) with Administering Jira Cloud applications. — tbc ( talk) 23:59, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
According to https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Jira-questions/Is-it-quot-JIRA-quot-or-quot-Jira-quot/qaq-p/681163, it was officially changed from 'JIRA' to 'Jira' in 2017 following a rebrand. Saw-lau ( talk) 15:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. The language of MOS:TM argues against using upper case in article names only for style reasons, when the title is not an acronym. There's also a local majority for the move (about 9 to 3). There's no reason to believe that the majority's reading of policy and guidelines is incorrect. In the wild, both upper and lower case are seen. As IIO notes, this 'Jira' is a reference to Godzilla and is not an acronym. MOS:TM says: Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one.. It's always puzzling when WP:COMMONNAME is used as an argument in a style discussion, since we go with Wikipedia style even if another style is more common. However, all MOS:TM is saying is, 'don't apply the Wikipedia downcasing to the name if the result will be a version of the name that nobody ever uses'. Obviously, people *do* use the lowercase style even if it may not be more common. EdJohnston ( talk) 20:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
JIRA →
Jira (software) – Per
MOS:TM /
MOS:ALLCAPS ("avoid: TIME, KISS, ASUS"): Lots of organizations and brand names like to use all-caps name styling to try to make themselves stand out from the crowd and appear more important. It's an annoying practice that Wikipedia should generally not follow. Please see prior comments on Talk page. This is not an acronym – just purely promotional styling. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 14:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted.
Andrewa (
talk)
16:02, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
jira bug tracking -wikipedia
at Google, this does not rise to the "universally spelled that way" level that, say, iPod does. There's no reason to make an iPod or Deadmau5 type of exception here. The sources just don't support it. The fact of the matter is that coders and the blogs they publish tend to write it JIRA because that's how they see it in the logo, and most of them surely assume it's an acronym. I did, and configure software packages like this as part of my living. (lots of the very same people refer to postgres when the actual product name is PostgreSQL, because, contrariwise, they're more familiar with the commandline name of the tool than with its formal name. Nerds are a fickle lot.) It's the same thing as music magazines rendering KISS, CLIEИT, and NIИ that way because logos do so. It's an
insider convention to visually emulate trademarks, a convention that WP has explicitly rejected for ages with only the rarest exceptions, based on a near-total absence of the non-stylized form in the real world. —
SMcCandlish ☺
☏
¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼
13:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
I have raised [5] this example at Wikipedia talk:Article titles#A perfect example, please comment there. Andrewa ( talk) 16:35, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the Bug tracking system, client-server, free software section, please add this entry after The Bug Genie:
Team Foundation Server Express (2012)
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Team Foundation Server (2005)
[2]
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Visual Studio Team Services (2013)
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Pat MSFT (
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20:15, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
References
Re: my edit of the page for JIRA ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jira_(software)&oldid=prev&diff=739586239). It was about "JIRA bugs being abbreviated to JB". I've been working with JIRA for 5+ years in different companies and I've never, ever seen anybody refer to a JIRA bug as "JB"; nor is it mentioned anywhere in the official JIRA documentation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walenzack ( talk • contribs) 20:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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It's not general information about the subject or bug reports or change logs about it. Adding some fact about (last edit wins) it is not really saying anything of value. If you want to add it, a reliable, secondary source should be found to support this or any "bug" you may think of adding, lest the article become a coat-rack for everyone's personal peeves with the web app. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
First WP:PRIMARY sources "may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them." There is no interpretation of the information so it may be used here. The issue about over reliance on primary sources is one about notability, not reliability. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 01:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
It can be misleading to focus on the number of sources from a given domain. A primary source is appropriate for the claim "Jira integrates with Subversion", and if that information happens to be on a different atlassian.com page than another linked in the same sentence, that's fine. Better to ask:
Please consider a request to add "Work management" in the function items. Example: genre = Bug tracking system, Project management software, Work management software Mocha c jp ( talk) 23:16, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I would like to add Along with "Comparison of issue-tracking systems". Mocha c jp ( talk) 06:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)