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First name mention
There seems to be some battle over how the subject's name should be mentioned in the first sentence. The relevant guidelines are
MOS:FULLNAME, which says While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name, if known, should usually be given in the lead sentence (including middle names, if known, or middle initials), and
MOS:HYPOCORISM, which says If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name.
As such, it should be James Obergefell in that opening sentence.
I won't be inserting myself in the revision war; I hope this helps you to sort it out. --
Nat Gertler (
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This article was nominated for
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Hi Wikipedians. This article has been edited recently and I was wondering if you could review it to see if it deserves a higher ranking? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Renee Jordan 2 (
talk •
contribs) 17:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)reply
First name mention
There seems to be some battle over how the subject's name should be mentioned in the first sentence. The relevant guidelines are
MOS:FULLNAME, which says While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name, if known, should usually be given in the lead sentence (including middle names, if known, or middle initials), and
MOS:HYPOCORISM, which says If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name.
As such, it should be James Obergefell in that opening sentence.
I won't be inserting myself in the revision war; I hope this helps you to sort it out. --
Nat Gertler (
talk) 12:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)reply