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Doesn't the last part about the Hindi Translation sound too much like a commercial for the book and the writer? Surely this is not Encyclopedic!!
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Ths article is deffinitely not up to Wikipedia standards. Almost nothing is cited. In addition, there are subjective claims in it such as "Corbett was a man of integrity and a person with great character." There are also highly dubious claims that sound like folk tale legend rather than actual fact, such as "An excellent hunter with keen senses, Corbett sometimes stalked to within twenty feet of his prey." That seems extordinarily unlikely unless said prey was blind, deaf, and had no sense of smell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.8.148 ( talk) 23:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
He is Indian born to Irish parents living in India — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.28.118 ( talk) 06:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
He is Irish, born in Naini Tal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.40.200 ( talk) 03:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
He should be either hunter or Conservationist.One cannot be both at once. Ishanaba ( talk) 10:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Read the text more carefully, and you will learn that he wasn't both at once, but a hunter turned conservationist, like quite a few others were too. -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 16:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
he killed bachelor of powalgarh in 1930 , when he was 55 years of age. this tiger was reported to be quite big , so many hunters tried to kill it to bag trophy. it proves basically he was a hunter. so dont led people into believing he only killed maneating tigers and leopards. there is no data how many tigers and leopards (who are normal, not man-eaters) jim had killed for a game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaviSBohra ( talk • contribs) 02:53, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Jim Corbett rarely ever killed a tiger or a leopard that wasn't a man-eater. The Bachelor was a very rare exception and Corbett later regretted killing him. STCooper1( 68.19.146.93 ( talk) 05:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC))
Yes, the main page says that Jim Corbett never killed a tiger that wasn't man-eater, while reading his book "Jim Corbett's India" by R.E Hawkins, the chapter "Chowgarh Tigers" mentioned that he made a mistake and killed non-confirmed man-eater tiger (male mate) of a man-eating tigress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.146.3 ( talk) 19:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
There's considerable difference in the year cited for Corbett killing the Champawat Tiger (tigress). They vary from 1907 to 1911 to 1926. I'm told that his memoir, 'Maneaters of Kumaon', only states that he killed the Champawat cat four years after a bounty was established.
This site seems as good as any, stating that he slew nearly a dozen maneaters between 1907 and 1938, the Champawat being the first.
http://www.ofcats.com/2007/06/jim-corbett.html
Anybody have more definite information?
B Tillman 1-24-09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Btillman ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Champawat tigress was killed in 1907, there is a photo of metal plate bearing the year 1907 in the gun awarded to jim by the then governor of united province. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaviSBohra ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
No consensus to move to primary name space. If someone feels that the disambiguated name is an issue, they can renominate this with a new suggest disambiguation. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Jim Corbett (hunter) → Jim Corbett — Added requested move template, see discussion below. jonkerz ♠ 15:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
There is enough discussion that Jim Corbett was a Hunter who turned Conservationist. Moreover his big cat hunting activities were later on limited to man-eaters only. It would be appropriate to change the heading, title and URL of the page from Jim Corbett (Hunter) to Jim Corbett (Conservationist) This is no way to hide his activities as a hunter but to stop creating prejudice in new generation about Jim Corbett being more recognized as a hunter. -- Harshonline ( talk) 20:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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10:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)Wikipedia articles, world over, carries huge weight in perception making and there is certainly a negative connotations in the word "hunter" right at the beginning. IF we can agree that Jim Corbett is the most recognized figure among all the personalities with the same name, we can go with the following first option else the second one. 1) Lets direct all Jim Corbett queries to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Corbett, and put up a link at the top of the page as following This article is about Jim Corbett, a British hunter, conservationist and naturalist. For other uses, see Jim Corbett (disambiguation) 2) Re-title the existing page by replacing hunter with either Writer or Conversationalist. -- Harshonline ( talk) 13:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Convinced by Harshonline's argument about "title of article is also part of quality". And think this is so far the best idea to change the article title to Jim Corbett. Acc to the Jim Corbett (disambiguation) page, there is no other article with this title anyway. -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 22:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
If books by people called Jim Corbett are excluded from the Google Books results, about 2/3 of the top 20 refer to the hunter/conservationist and 1/3 to the boxer. Peter E. James ( talk) 15:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
What are the next steps now towards changing the page title ? -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 09:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeh BhagyaMani even i waiting for that. Don't want to do something out of turn. Harshonline ( talk) 17:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The photo of Jim Corbett and the slain tiger in this article is a slightly different version of the photo used in Champawat_Tiger. In the Jim Corbett article, the tiger is captioned as the "Bachelor of Powalgarh", however in the Champawat Tiger article, it is captioned as the Champawat Tiger. So it appears that at least one of the photos is mislabeled.
This topic was already raised by another user at Talk:Champawat_Tiger#Picture_of_the_tiger; I am cross-posting here to solicit more attention to the matter. -- Burpen ( talk) 17:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. Somewhat in the spirit of WP:IAR, I'm moving the dab to James Corbett instead, which already redirects there. It doesn't look like the hunter was commonly called James Corbett, so this is as good a title as any for the dab. Generally, human name disambiguation pages aren't titled as nicknames unless they only contain people with the nickname. -- BDD ( talk) 19:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
– Jim Corbett was moved (unilaterally) way back in 2005. Corbett the hunter is the primary topic over other Corbetts (most of the names in the dab page are either "James" or "Jimmy". It has been viewed 13693 times in the last 30 days, 3 times more than its nearest (Corbett the boxer at 5073 times, even though "Gentleman Jim" is not his common name which is "James John Corbett"). The present title of the article is problematic because of disambiguation brackets (people may also be searching for the strings Conservationist, naturalist etc. as noted in previous move) Relisted. BDD ( talk) 23:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC) Solomon 7968 16:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Whether the dab page currently at Jim Corbett should ultimately be at James Corbett (disambiguation) rather than Jim Corbett (disambiguation) is a related but separate issue. Give that most entries on that list refer to James, I agree James Corbett (disambiguation) is probably the better choice. -- B2 C 17:15, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The page on tigers of chowgarh is mainly about Jim Corbett and how he hunted them, not the tigers themselves. It's basically a summary of the section of his book that deals with those tigers so i think it would be appropriate to merge it into Jim Corbett#Hunting man-eating tigers and leopards. WikiWisePowder ( talk) 20:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone point to a source that provides a definitive number? 2001:8F8:1623:4EBA:216F:8CE2:6332:9978 ( talk) 09:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC) R.E.D.
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Doesn't the last part about the Hindi Translation sound too much like a commercial for the book and the writer? Surely this is not Encyclopedic!!
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 18:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Ths article is deffinitely not up to Wikipedia standards. Almost nothing is cited. In addition, there are subjective claims in it such as "Corbett was a man of integrity and a person with great character." There are also highly dubious claims that sound like folk tale legend rather than actual fact, such as "An excellent hunter with keen senses, Corbett sometimes stalked to within twenty feet of his prey." That seems extordinarily unlikely unless said prey was blind, deaf, and had no sense of smell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.8.148 ( talk) 23:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
He is Indian born to Irish parents living in India — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.28.118 ( talk) 06:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
He is Irish, born in Naini Tal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.40.200 ( talk) 03:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
He should be either hunter or Conservationist.One cannot be both at once. Ishanaba ( talk) 10:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Read the text more carefully, and you will learn that he wasn't both at once, but a hunter turned conservationist, like quite a few others were too. -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 16:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
he killed bachelor of powalgarh in 1930 , when he was 55 years of age. this tiger was reported to be quite big , so many hunters tried to kill it to bag trophy. it proves basically he was a hunter. so dont led people into believing he only killed maneating tigers and leopards. there is no data how many tigers and leopards (who are normal, not man-eaters) jim had killed for a game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaviSBohra ( talk • contribs) 02:53, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Jim Corbett rarely ever killed a tiger or a leopard that wasn't a man-eater. The Bachelor was a very rare exception and Corbett later regretted killing him. STCooper1( 68.19.146.93 ( talk) 05:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC))
Yes, the main page says that Jim Corbett never killed a tiger that wasn't man-eater, while reading his book "Jim Corbett's India" by R.E Hawkins, the chapter "Chowgarh Tigers" mentioned that he made a mistake and killed non-confirmed man-eater tiger (male mate) of a man-eating tigress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.146.3 ( talk) 19:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
There's considerable difference in the year cited for Corbett killing the Champawat Tiger (tigress). They vary from 1907 to 1911 to 1926. I'm told that his memoir, 'Maneaters of Kumaon', only states that he killed the Champawat cat four years after a bounty was established.
This site seems as good as any, stating that he slew nearly a dozen maneaters between 1907 and 1938, the Champawat being the first.
http://www.ofcats.com/2007/06/jim-corbett.html
Anybody have more definite information?
B Tillman 1-24-09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Btillman ( talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Champawat tigress was killed in 1907, there is a photo of metal plate bearing the year 1907 in the gun awarded to jim by the then governor of united province. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaviSBohra ( talk • contribs) 12:26, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
No consensus to move to primary name space. If someone feels that the disambiguated name is an issue, they can renominate this with a new suggest disambiguation. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Jim Corbett (hunter) → Jim Corbett — Added requested move template, see discussion below. jonkerz ♠ 15:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
There is enough discussion that Jim Corbett was a Hunter who turned Conservationist. Moreover his big cat hunting activities were later on limited to man-eaters only. It would be appropriate to change the heading, title and URL of the page from Jim Corbett (Hunter) to Jim Corbett (Conservationist) This is no way to hide his activities as a hunter but to stop creating prejudice in new generation about Jim Corbett being more recognized as a hunter. -- Harshonline ( talk) 20:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Harshonline ( talk) 08:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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10:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)Wikipedia articles, world over, carries huge weight in perception making and there is certainly a negative connotations in the word "hunter" right at the beginning. IF we can agree that Jim Corbett is the most recognized figure among all the personalities with the same name, we can go with the following first option else the second one. 1) Lets direct all Jim Corbett queries to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Corbett, and put up a link at the top of the page as following This article is about Jim Corbett, a British hunter, conservationist and naturalist. For other uses, see Jim Corbett (disambiguation) 2) Re-title the existing page by replacing hunter with either Writer or Conversationalist. -- Harshonline ( talk) 13:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Convinced by Harshonline's argument about "title of article is also part of quality". And think this is so far the best idea to change the article title to Jim Corbett. Acc to the Jim Corbett (disambiguation) page, there is no other article with this title anyway. -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 22:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
If books by people called Jim Corbett are excluded from the Google Books results, about 2/3 of the top 20 refer to the hunter/conservationist and 1/3 to the boxer. Peter E. James ( talk) 15:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
What are the next steps now towards changing the page title ? -- BhagyaMani ( talk) 09:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeh BhagyaMani even i waiting for that. Don't want to do something out of turn. Harshonline ( talk) 17:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The photo of Jim Corbett and the slain tiger in this article is a slightly different version of the photo used in Champawat_Tiger. In the Jim Corbett article, the tiger is captioned as the "Bachelor of Powalgarh", however in the Champawat Tiger article, it is captioned as the Champawat Tiger. So it appears that at least one of the photos is mislabeled.
This topic was already raised by another user at Talk:Champawat_Tiger#Picture_of_the_tiger; I am cross-posting here to solicit more attention to the matter. -- Burpen ( talk) 17:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. Somewhat in the spirit of WP:IAR, I'm moving the dab to James Corbett instead, which already redirects there. It doesn't look like the hunter was commonly called James Corbett, so this is as good a title as any for the dab. Generally, human name disambiguation pages aren't titled as nicknames unless they only contain people with the nickname. -- BDD ( talk) 19:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
– Jim Corbett was moved (unilaterally) way back in 2005. Corbett the hunter is the primary topic over other Corbetts (most of the names in the dab page are either "James" or "Jimmy". It has been viewed 13693 times in the last 30 days, 3 times more than its nearest (Corbett the boxer at 5073 times, even though "Gentleman Jim" is not his common name which is "James John Corbett"). The present title of the article is problematic because of disambiguation brackets (people may also be searching for the strings Conservationist, naturalist etc. as noted in previous move) Relisted. BDD ( talk) 23:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC) Solomon 7968 16:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Whether the dab page currently at Jim Corbett should ultimately be at James Corbett (disambiguation) rather than Jim Corbett (disambiguation) is a related but separate issue. Give that most entries on that list refer to James, I agree James Corbett (disambiguation) is probably the better choice. -- B2 C 17:15, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The page on tigers of chowgarh is mainly about Jim Corbett and how he hunted them, not the tigers themselves. It's basically a summary of the section of his book that deals with those tigers so i think it would be appropriate to merge it into Jim Corbett#Hunting man-eating tigers and leopards. WikiWisePowder ( talk) 20:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Can anyone point to a source that provides a definitive number? 2001:8F8:1623:4EBA:216F:8CE2:6332:9978 ( talk) 09:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC) R.E.D.