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All of the land held by James Armand de Rothschild's (son of the baron Edmond James de Rothschild who the Knesset website refers to as "the founding father of the Yishuf") Palestine Jewish Colonization Association was transferred to the Jewish National Fund, I presume upon his death. James Armand de Rothschild, son of the baron Edmond James de Rothschild, was President of the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association, "All of the land held by the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association was transferred to the Jewish National Fund." (Knesset - which James Armand de Rothschild built through a 6 million lire donation.) [1] [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.100.133 ( talk) 07:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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While the information provided in the article is important, the article is also totally biased as the organization and its many functions, especially in foresting, are not truly discssued. gidonb 03:02, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Could someone provide further information on the sucesses of reforestation attributed to the KKL? Also, it would be splendid if comparisons with similar tree planting programs elsewhere ( Central Asia, Iceland, Rapa Nui, Cape Verde Islands) could be provided. // Big Adamsky 21:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
In an effort to offer a more rounded picture of the political role of the JNF in Israel I've added a line with a typical Palestinian point of view and some analysis of the JNF's role as a key element in the modern Israeli state including weblinks to supporting evidence from the JNF's own website. -- Tom Godwin 13:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
It merely specifies that the purpose of the JNF is to purchase land for the settlement of Jews. Not the same thing at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.68.95.65 ( talk) 18:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
The whole Early History section is not written in an encyclopaedic manner which makes it sound very POV. Might be fixed simply by someone who knows about it rewriting the section. [[ Guest9999 10:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)]]
I think it is generally agreed that JNF has had quasi-governmental status historically in israel, as evidenced by its co-administration of lands with the government and the specific sale of confiscated land to it by the government. I am clarifying this in the lead paragraph. Brw12 ( talk) 21:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
According to [1], JNF had only 800 km² in 1949, with another 120 km² transferred later from PJCA. Could the 936 km² figure be the combination of these two figures?-- Doron 11:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
During the Ottoman and early British period, a "dunam" meant a Turkish dunam of 919.3 square meters (0.227 acres). In Feb 1928, The British abolished it in favor of the metric dunam of 1000 square meters (0.247 acres). Quite a lot of sources convert early land areas incorrectly due to this confusion. -- Zero talk 12:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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Why I changed 'Israeli settlements' to 'Jewish settlements' is, as I understand it, if you are an Israeli Christian or an Israeli Muslim or an Israeli Druze you would have difficulty buying a property in most (all?) of these 'settlements' (or possibly colonies?). It has been reverted. No surprise. But it is not accurate. In my humble ... Padres Hana ( talk) 17:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
The article is describing the US arm as a fund raising arm for the Israeli entity. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-keren-kayemeth-who-how-jewish-national-fund-usa-divorced-its-israeli-counterpart-1.9546714 (and https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-jnf-postpones-vote-on-controversial-west-bank-land-purchases-1.9736386) are saying that the two orgs are essentially separate (although there is a clear past relationship). Selfstudier ( talk) 10:59, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Please would involved parties discuss here. In my opinion there should be something of the disputed material in this article but perhaps it can be summarized into something shorter? Selfstudier ( talk) 13:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi SelfStudier, I've received a message from OgamD218 and User:Zero0000 stating I should not be editing this page however I assume this doesn't extend to the talk page? JNF-KKL and JNF-UK and in some aspect considered two different organisations, although some would note this as deliberate given the controversy of JNF-KKL and the UK branch wishing to distance itself (I have some citations that can be provided to this effect if you would like). It may be viable as an alternative that a sepprate page of JNF-UK is created and edits in the UK section are transfer there with a link to JNF-KKL (this page). In regards to disputed material I am not confidence these were made in good faith seeing as the UK Jewish Newspapers were printing weekly and sometimes daily on the events that have recently unfolded which resulted in JNF being censured. If anything at least that aspect the censured should remain in the article. I would be in favour of a sepprate page with keeping the full detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scorchgider ( talk • contribs) 20:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
In regards to disputed material I am not confidence these were made in good faith seeing as the UK Jewish Newspapers were printing weekly and sometimes daily on the events that have recently unfolded which resulted in JNF being censured? OgamD218 ( talk) 04:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The second sentence of section "2021 Controversy" includes the words:
The word "lied" is incorrect. The most likely correct word in this context is "lay". Another possibility is "lies". Misha Wolf ( talk) 22:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
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All of the land held by James Armand de Rothschild's (son of the baron Edmond James de Rothschild who the Knesset website refers to as "the founding father of the Yishuf") Palestine Jewish Colonization Association was transferred to the Jewish National Fund, I presume upon his death. James Armand de Rothschild, son of the baron Edmond James de Rothschild, was President of the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association, "All of the land held by the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association was transferred to the Jewish National Fund." (Knesset - which James Armand de Rothschild built through a 6 million lire donation.) [1] [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.100.133 ( talk) 07:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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While the information provided in the article is important, the article is also totally biased as the organization and its many functions, especially in foresting, are not truly discssued. gidonb 03:02, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Could someone provide further information on the sucesses of reforestation attributed to the KKL? Also, it would be splendid if comparisons with similar tree planting programs elsewhere ( Central Asia, Iceland, Rapa Nui, Cape Verde Islands) could be provided. // Big Adamsky 21:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
In an effort to offer a more rounded picture of the political role of the JNF in Israel I've added a line with a typical Palestinian point of view and some analysis of the JNF's role as a key element in the modern Israeli state including weblinks to supporting evidence from the JNF's own website. -- Tom Godwin 13:59, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
It merely specifies that the purpose of the JNF is to purchase land for the settlement of Jews. Not the same thing at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.68.95.65 ( talk) 18:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
The whole Early History section is not written in an encyclopaedic manner which makes it sound very POV. Might be fixed simply by someone who knows about it rewriting the section. [[ Guest9999 10:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)]]
I think it is generally agreed that JNF has had quasi-governmental status historically in israel, as evidenced by its co-administration of lands with the government and the specific sale of confiscated land to it by the government. I am clarifying this in the lead paragraph. Brw12 ( talk) 21:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
According to [1], JNF had only 800 km² in 1949, with another 120 km² transferred later from PJCA. Could the 936 km² figure be the combination of these two figures?-- Doron 11:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
During the Ottoman and early British period, a "dunam" meant a Turkish dunam of 919.3 square meters (0.227 acres). In Feb 1928, The British abolished it in favor of the metric dunam of 1000 square meters (0.247 acres). Quite a lot of sources convert early land areas incorrectly due to this confusion. -- Zero talk 12:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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Why I changed 'Israeli settlements' to 'Jewish settlements' is, as I understand it, if you are an Israeli Christian or an Israeli Muslim or an Israeli Druze you would have difficulty buying a property in most (all?) of these 'settlements' (or possibly colonies?). It has been reverted. No surprise. But it is not accurate. In my humble ... Padres Hana ( talk) 17:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
The article is describing the US arm as a fund raising arm for the Israeli entity. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-keren-kayemeth-who-how-jewish-national-fund-usa-divorced-its-israeli-counterpart-1.9546714 (and https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-jnf-postpones-vote-on-controversial-west-bank-land-purchases-1.9736386) are saying that the two orgs are essentially separate (although there is a clear past relationship). Selfstudier ( talk) 10:59, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Please would involved parties discuss here. In my opinion there should be something of the disputed material in this article but perhaps it can be summarized into something shorter? Selfstudier ( talk) 13:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi SelfStudier, I've received a message from OgamD218 and User:Zero0000 stating I should not be editing this page however I assume this doesn't extend to the talk page? JNF-KKL and JNF-UK and in some aspect considered two different organisations, although some would note this as deliberate given the controversy of JNF-KKL and the UK branch wishing to distance itself (I have some citations that can be provided to this effect if you would like). It may be viable as an alternative that a sepprate page of JNF-UK is created and edits in the UK section are transfer there with a link to JNF-KKL (this page). In regards to disputed material I am not confidence these were made in good faith seeing as the UK Jewish Newspapers were printing weekly and sometimes daily on the events that have recently unfolded which resulted in JNF being censured. If anything at least that aspect the censured should remain in the article. I would be in favour of a sepprate page with keeping the full detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scorchgider ( talk • contribs) 20:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
In regards to disputed material I am not confidence these were made in good faith seeing as the UK Jewish Newspapers were printing weekly and sometimes daily on the events that have recently unfolded which resulted in JNF being censured? OgamD218 ( talk) 04:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
The second sentence of section "2021 Controversy" includes the words:
The word "lied" is incorrect. The most likely correct word in this context is "lay". Another possibility is "lies". Misha Wolf ( talk) 22:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)