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International Competitions

I am curious what "International Competition from the FMMiS in Moscow" it was in 1957? This is no mention in the German wikibio, which only mentioned the city. Also, is this a good ref for his winning a diploma from International Vocal Competition 's-Hertogenbosch? Found it on the Polish wikibio. -- PFHLai ( talk) 12:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The city alone is little, and I failed to find which competition exactly, possible a translation error. Perhaps GRuban could help? Will check the other. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Woah. I admit my first reaction was "I can read Russian, but that does not make me an expert on 1957 vocal competitions!" But I decided to take on the challenge, and went Googling. I think this was a translation from Russian through Polish into English by someone who might not have been as skilled at at least one part of this chain as she thought. It might be the 6th World Festival of Youth and Students, which was held in Moscow in 1957 and is described as the largest ever World Festival of Youth and Students. In Russian that would be the Всемирный фестиваль молодёжи и студентов, transliterated "Vsemirnyy festival' molodyozhi i studentov", which is usually abbreviated ВФМС (transliterated VFMS) but I can see it might have been abbreviated VmFMiS since Vsemirnyy (International), is a compound word: Vse + mirnyy (All + world), and i is a very short word (and). Fortunately we have a detailed list of events there at our RU article and it says there were international vocal competitions on Days 4 and 5. Continuing to look to confirm this was what was meant. -- GRuban ( talk) 13:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, that is it! Here, https://portal-kultura.ru/upload/iblock/6f6/1957.08.12.pdf, which is Sovetskaya Kultura for 12 August 1957, covering the 6th World Festival of Youth and Students, and on page 4 of 4, which is the list of prizewinners, in the middle of three columns, most of the way to the bottom, "For classical singing", "Third place awards -- bronze medals", "... Artysz Jerzy (Poland) ..."! I am unspeakably proud of myself here.
That said, though, I don't know why this is such a huge deal, the paper lists something like fifty prizewinners, of which Artysz is only one, and it's only a bronze not a gold. Still, I'll add the reference to the sentence in the article. -- GRuban ( talk) 13:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

  • ... that Jerzy Artysz, who performed title roles from Orfeo to King Roger at the Grand Theatre in Warsaw, created the role of Josep Soler's Oedipus at the Liceu in Barcelona in 1986? Source: [1]
    • Reviewed: Józef Ignacy Kraszewski
    • Comment: appeared on the Main page as RD, but still eligible. I'm open to hooks, but this tries to inform that sang title roles (rare for a baritone!), had a repertoire from Monteverdi to contemporary, portrayed mythical figures and kings, had a close connection not only to the Polish most important stage but also to the Spanish second most important stage. - Had no article, imagine!
Created by Gerda Arendt ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2112 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • OK, sorry, I've moved them downstairs. Of course "musician" is rubbish, but it's for the philistines, who will otherwise delete stuff. OK, here they are corrected, in case this nom gets a reviewer who is cool with opera.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

International Competitions

I am curious what "International Competition from the FMMiS in Moscow" it was in 1957? This is no mention in the German wikibio, which only mentioned the city. Also, is this a good ref for his winning a diploma from International Vocal Competition 's-Hertogenbosch? Found it on the Polish wikibio. -- PFHLai ( talk) 12:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

The city alone is little, and I failed to find which competition exactly, possible a translation error. Perhaps GRuban could help? Will check the other. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Woah. I admit my first reaction was "I can read Russian, but that does not make me an expert on 1957 vocal competitions!" But I decided to take on the challenge, and went Googling. I think this was a translation from Russian through Polish into English by someone who might not have been as skilled at at least one part of this chain as she thought. It might be the 6th World Festival of Youth and Students, which was held in Moscow in 1957 and is described as the largest ever World Festival of Youth and Students. In Russian that would be the Всемирный фестиваль молодёжи и студентов, transliterated "Vsemirnyy festival' molodyozhi i studentov", which is usually abbreviated ВФМС (transliterated VFMS) but I can see it might have been abbreviated VmFMiS since Vsemirnyy (International), is a compound word: Vse + mirnyy (All + world), and i is a very short word (and). Fortunately we have a detailed list of events there at our RU article and it says there were international vocal competitions on Days 4 and 5. Continuing to look to confirm this was what was meant. -- GRuban ( talk) 13:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, that is it! Here, https://portal-kultura.ru/upload/iblock/6f6/1957.08.12.pdf, which is Sovetskaya Kultura for 12 August 1957, covering the 6th World Festival of Youth and Students, and on page 4 of 4, which is the list of prizewinners, in the middle of three columns, most of the way to the bottom, "For classical singing", "Third place awards -- bronze medals", "... Artysz Jerzy (Poland) ..."! I am unspeakably proud of myself here.
That said, though, I don't know why this is such a huge deal, the paper lists something like fifty prizewinners, of which Artysz is only one, and it's only a bronze not a gold. Still, I'll add the reference to the sentence in the article. -- GRuban ( talk) 13:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

  • ... that Jerzy Artysz, who performed title roles from Orfeo to King Roger at the Grand Theatre in Warsaw, created the role of Josep Soler's Oedipus at the Liceu in Barcelona in 1986? Source: [1]
    • Reviewed: Józef Ignacy Kraszewski
    • Comment: appeared on the Main page as RD, but still eligible. I'm open to hooks, but this tries to inform that sang title roles (rare for a baritone!), had a repertoire from Monteverdi to contemporary, portrayed mythical figures and kings, had a close connection not only to the Polish most important stage but also to the Spanish second most important stage. - Had no article, imagine!
Created by Gerda Arendt ( talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2112 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC). reply

  • OK, sorry, I've moved them downstairs. Of course "musician" is rubbish, but it's for the philistines, who will otherwise delete stuff. OK, here they are corrected, in case this nom gets a reviewer who is cool with opera.

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