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Biographic articles are by WIkipedia convention, given the name they are known by. In this case, that's "Jerome Kern" not "Jerome David Kern" - Nunh-huh 04:16, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Is it "Showboat" or "Show Boat"? 12.207.80.153 23:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I tried to verify the Appleographone claim but found nothing. (See Talk:Appleographone) Perhaps whoever created this article could give us more information? Sluzzelin 09:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Sluzzelin 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Partly with a view to reducing the future possible length of the article, and to providing a ready reference to his works, I have created a List of Jerome Kern songs. Please contribute.-- Technopat ( talk) 13:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: "His musical innovations, such as 4/4 dance rhythms and the employment of syncopation and jazz progressions, built on, rather than rejected, earlier musical theatre tradition."
This is a peculiar sentence. I think it might be broken in two because the examples of putative innovation don't all necessarily build on the earlier manner, even if they supplement it or alter it. Kern is usually considered a bridge, although Show Boat was clearly a harbinger with a curiously (considering its commercial success) delayed influence on the future of musicals. I'd rewrite the passage myself were I not puzzled by the list: "4/4 dance rhythms" in contradistinction to what? Non-dance rhythms? Waltzes and minuets? Or is it 4/4 in contradistinction to 2/2? Was Kern really the first to put syncopation on Broadway? If he wasn't, he might still have been in the vanguard, but that doesn't make his syncopation an "innovation". Presumbably "jazz progressions" means "jazz chord progressions", and if so, that's what should be said. But what precisely is a jazz chord progression, anyway? As far as I can tell, until the bebop period and except for blues, jazz harmony was taken straight from "common-practice-period" European Art Music harmony. TheScotch ( talk) 08:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Is the infobox on this article actually serving any purpose? It appears to have Kern's birth and death date (which can be found on the first line of the lead section), and the non-important listing of his equally non-important spouse, which I don't think should be one of the first things the reader sees. -- Cassianto Talk 11:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
I've read that there was a copyright infringement matter about a bar of music from "Dardanella" being used in "Ka-lu-a" (one of my favorite Kern songs)which established some sort of copyright precedent in the USA. Does anybody have the particulars? I've been trying to find out just what that important precedent was. 50.202.81.2 ( talk) 05:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Great American Songbook#The future of this article as to how to deal with the uncited lists of songwriters, songs, and singers in that article. Please join the discussion if it interests you. Softlavender ( talk) 03:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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Biographic articles are by WIkipedia convention, given the name they are known by. In this case, that's "Jerome Kern" not "Jerome David Kern" - Nunh-huh 04:16, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Is it "Showboat" or "Show Boat"? 12.207.80.153 23:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I tried to verify the Appleographone claim but found nothing. (See Talk:Appleographone) Perhaps whoever created this article could give us more information? Sluzzelin 09:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Sluzzelin 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Partly with a view to reducing the future possible length of the article, and to providing a ready reference to his works, I have created a List of Jerome Kern songs. Please contribute.-- Technopat ( talk) 13:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: "His musical innovations, such as 4/4 dance rhythms and the employment of syncopation and jazz progressions, built on, rather than rejected, earlier musical theatre tradition."
This is a peculiar sentence. I think it might be broken in two because the examples of putative innovation don't all necessarily build on the earlier manner, even if they supplement it or alter it. Kern is usually considered a bridge, although Show Boat was clearly a harbinger with a curiously (considering its commercial success) delayed influence on the future of musicals. I'd rewrite the passage myself were I not puzzled by the list: "4/4 dance rhythms" in contradistinction to what? Non-dance rhythms? Waltzes and minuets? Or is it 4/4 in contradistinction to 2/2? Was Kern really the first to put syncopation on Broadway? If he wasn't, he might still have been in the vanguard, but that doesn't make his syncopation an "innovation". Presumbably "jazz progressions" means "jazz chord progressions", and if so, that's what should be said. But what precisely is a jazz chord progression, anyway? As far as I can tell, until the bebop period and except for blues, jazz harmony was taken straight from "common-practice-period" European Art Music harmony. TheScotch ( talk) 08:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Is the infobox on this article actually serving any purpose? It appears to have Kern's birth and death date (which can be found on the first line of the lead section), and the non-important listing of his equally non-important spouse, which I don't think should be one of the first things the reader sees. -- Cassianto Talk 11:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
I've read that there was a copyright infringement matter about a bar of music from "Dardanella" being used in "Ka-lu-a" (one of my favorite Kern songs)which established some sort of copyright precedent in the USA. Does anybody have the particulars? I've been trying to find out just what that important precedent was. 50.202.81.2 ( talk) 05:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Great American Songbook#The future of this article as to how to deal with the uncited lists of songwriters, songs, and singers in that article. Please join the discussion if it interests you. Softlavender ( talk) 03:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)