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preservative That should be nitrIte not nitrAte right? "Some additional form of chemical preservative, such as sodium nitrate,"
Beef jerky, or the concept of preserving meat by drying it, has been around for at least 50,000 years. It is one of Mankind's first, critical products, storable food. Beef jerky has been carried on expeditions since the dawn of time because it is nutritious, lightweight, and keeps a long time. Even today, beef jerky has cutting edge applications. NASA and RASA have flown beef jerky into Space several times, begining in 1996, aboard the STS-79 Atlantis Space Shuttle flight to the Mir Space Station, STS-118 Endevour Space Shuttle flight to International Space Station, and on the Soyuz spacecraft and Progress freighter spacecraft also going to the International Space Station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.118.44.102 ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 June 2004 (UTC) BEEF JERKYY IS MINT!! zoe raine
From the "Jerky (food)" article, near the bottom:
"Beef Jerky is considered by many leading experts to be the most delicious food in the universe."
I think we're going to need a source, or at least, some relevant statistics to support this. If you can provide them, I shall eagerly consider them.
Otherwise, I vote to edit this delicious little tidbit out.
Thank you.
It's obviously a joke. I'll take it out. -- Crazysunshine 08:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm not precisely sure how to elaborate on my cleanup effort with this article. I've organized everything into more logical sections, cleaned up the wording, fixed links, etc. What else needs to be done? -- Crazysunshine 08:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
It looks good. At first sight, I'd say it's a little too short, but then again, how much can you say about jerky? -- kenohki 22:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
It seems that the grammar and consistency of the article could be improved a bit, there's also some information lacking (like recipes for one). In response to Kenohki: There's a lot to be said about Jerky and it's preparation. It's had the lifetime of the human race to develop (+/- a few thousand years). :) I'd like to add some more to this article in the next couple of days but am not to familiar with how to "properly" go about doing so. Any suggestions on how to proceed? -- TheLight
I am removing the sentence "Beef jerky was originally developed as an edible alternative to chewing tobacco" from the Preparation section, as this clearly contradicts a previous part of the article which attributes jerky's invention to early South American peoples. The sentence is not referenced either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I moved this link over from the beef page, but I still think it shouldn't be anywhere because it's just a page of beef jerky for sale: http://www.bulkbeefjerky.com/store Dav2008 16:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
The new section smells of false or exaggerated rumors. There's no actual source for it either, just that "new studies" and other such unsubstantiated claims. I think I'll go ahead and remove it. -- Crazysunshine 02:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed the reference section and the link it contained. The link went to a page that gave the nutrition content for "chunked and formed" jerky. Some may call that nasty stuff beef jerky, but it isn't. Jerky is made from sliced, whole muscle meat. Let's not confuse the article. If someone wants to start a new article about "manufactured meat snacks" go ahead, lets keep this article about real jerky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.248.88 ( talk • contribs) 10:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a better picture of jerky rather than an advertisement for some.. (I moved that down). Anywho, can someone get a copyright on that? Crash2108 22:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
With regards to this section it implies that brands using actual slices of beef instead of formed grounds or paste are only available through specialty stores and sites. This appears to me to be no more than an advertisement for the website used as a "reference." Several brands of beef jerky readily available in convenience stores and supermarkets claim to use solid beef strips in at least one of their varieties. As an example (because I happen to have a package on me at the moment) Oberto's "Natural Style" beef jerky states that it is made using "solid strips of lean premium beef..." That seems to share in the claims made with regard to these websites does it not? I am going to edit accordingly but I wont remove ref #3 just yet in case anyone has any objections.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk|
Actually, you have misread the external links guidelines. Section 1.3.4 states that if a link meets any of those four criteria, it is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The third and fourth criteria listed are not qualifiers for the second listed criteria (it reads "or", not "and"). Thus, any site “that primarily exist to sell products or services”, as you have admitted above, is specifically prohibited. I have reverted the article to the above discussed version and removed the improper external link. Also, please do not delete the comments of others on talk pages. Thanks, Satori Son 15:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Excuse my ignorance, in advance. What about BeefJerkyRecipes.com makes it ineligible to be an external link? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.173.30.178 ( talk) 21:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
At www.BeefJerkyRecipes.com [1] users can search 100s of Beef Jerky Recipes by: Meat Type, Flavor, and Cooking Method. Users can rate recipes and even submit their own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iheartjerky ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Links to recipes belong with this article. See this tool, and enter "beef jerky" http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/ You will find that the term 'beef jerky' was recently searched 48,493 times. The second most popular search term is 'beef jerky recipe' with 18,400 searches. That is pretty conclusive proof that a lot of people want to find recipes for beef jerky. These external links should remain with the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.251.86 ( talk • contribs)
Satori Son asked me to come offer a perspective on this dispute. There does not appear to be any compelling reason to link to the recipe page at beefjerky.com, because the link goes to a commercial website in violation of WP:EL. I think it would be appropriate to link to b:Cookbook:Beef Jerky for a recipe. A huge collection of beef jerky recipes is not critical to the article. If the people who are promoting these commercial sites here are really interested in teaching people about how to make jerky, let them add their recipes to the Wikibooks cookbook under a free license. — ptk✰ fgs 18:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is jerky so expensive? A tiny 3 oz bag could cost nearly $10 USD. -- 72.202.150.92 06:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I agree, Materials do cost. By the way, who owns/sells Ralph's jerky? On an enlightened note...you must take into mind that not all jerky is equal. You can get better quality if not equal quality to Ralph's jerky from http://naturalchoicejerky.com They sell up to a half pound of jerky for only $12.00 + free shipping with no preservatives, no msg, gluten free organic beef jerky. Its hard to find this kind of quality jerky at stores. I eat this jerky all the time and I am happy to educate people by letting them know exactly where and how to get something I enjoy. Especially if its a good alternative. -- Naturalchoice 21:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
At my local Giant Eagle this week a 4 oz bag of Oberto's was $5-$6 US. Flank steak was $7.99/lb. 20x20 inch furnace filters were ~$7.50 for a 3-pack at my local Lowe's. All the other ingredients and hardware for the Good Eats recipe I already had on hand. DarkAudit ( talk) 04:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I have restored the Economist reference that was deleted with the edit summary "Removed Economist referece. [sic] Requires subscription to read." We do not delete good references simply because the hyperlink becomes inactive; see WP:REF#What to do when a reference link "goes dead". If you would like to double-check the validity of that source, there are these public facilities called "libraries" that store information such as this and let you read it for free. Go check it out.
Perhaps an archived version will be available at some point on the Wayback Machine, which deliberately lags by six months or more. But even if not, a quality published source is still acceptable even if the full article is not available to view online for free. -- Satori Son 01:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a photo of a bag of jerky. The photo was taken on International Space Station, with the bag floating in front of the big window, with the black of space, the curve of the Earth, and some space station parts visible. Its a pretty cool photo. Can it be used in the article? Officially, its US government property. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.150.63 ( talk) 20:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
I've read the article over a few times and believe that the "START CLASS" rating of this article is out of date. I have looked over the rating guide and respectively moved the rating of this article up to "C CLASS." If there is a problem feel free to revert my edit. Thank you, Cindy About/ T/ P/ C/ 10:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I understand that the External Links Policy says that "sites that primarily exist to sell products should normally be avoided"...but it does not say "absolutely be avoided". There are some instances that linking to a site that exists to sell products is warranted. This is one of those times.
The link to the Jerky Glossary is absolutely relevant and beneficial to the readers of this entry. It is a comprehensive list of terms with their definitions that pertains to nothing but jerky. This content is unique and will be found nowhere else on the web. There isn't any deceptive practices going on...and no advertising gimmicks are used to trick users to click on a product to purchase. It is great information on an e-commerce site that unequivocally adds great value to this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.173.30.178 ( talk) 14:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
What has jerky got to do with Hong Kong at all? It didn't originate there, and isn't native to there, so I say all references to Hong Kong be removed. SJ2571 ( talk) 13:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The sourced intro is later contradicted by the body of the article. The intro clearly states that cooking is involved in the process at least some of the time. The article then describes in detail one of several ways to make Jerky and keeps refering to the process as "raw" and to "prevent cooking". 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 17:14, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
how can the word Jerky come from a quechua word and dont have any background in latinoamerica —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.28.100.157 ( talk) 03:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
The article says jerky can be "stored for a long time without refrigeration" What is a long time? 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month , 2 months, 1 year, 2 years, indefinite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.151.148 ( talk) 05:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The article would be significantly enhanced if it contained some data relating to the caloric content of jerky. If some jerkies have higher caloric content than others, some comparative data would also be useful.
24.5.116.154 ( talk) 00:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Jim Ross, the WWE Hall of Famer, produces by fan response a highly popular beef jerky, which I would say could be mentioned as an example... —Preceding unsigned comment added by McDube ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
"Jerky" doesn't warrant a disambiguation page, as far as I can see.
Aside from its link to Jerky (food), its content currently consists of links to Jerky (game), a card game apparently not notable enough for an article thus far, and The Jerky Boys, a prank phone call performance group, which contains the helpful additional word "Boys" to differentiate it from the food (in case someone were to get them mixed up). There's also a link to Jerk (disambiguation).
I propose moving this article, Jerky (food), to Jerky, with hatnotes for everything except the card game. Alternatively, we could dispense with the hatnotes and have one link to a dab page, Jerky (disambiguation), but I think the dab page may be superfluous. Thoughts? Rivertorch ( talk) 06:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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The picture of the beef jerky on the space station reads like an ad. Should this be removed? -- Edward Versaii ( talk) 01:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Is Jerky a universal term in English, or is it considered primarily a USA term? I note this because of the plethora of types of dried meat in other cultures. Kortoso ( talk) 21:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
It has it's own article, I see no real reason why it should be talked about here. Jtrainor ( talk) 11:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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preservative That should be nitrIte not nitrAte right? "Some additional form of chemical preservative, such as sodium nitrate,"
Beef jerky, or the concept of preserving meat by drying it, has been around for at least 50,000 years. It is one of Mankind's first, critical products, storable food. Beef jerky has been carried on expeditions since the dawn of time because it is nutritious, lightweight, and keeps a long time. Even today, beef jerky has cutting edge applications. NASA and RASA have flown beef jerky into Space several times, begining in 1996, aboard the STS-79 Atlantis Space Shuttle flight to the Mir Space Station, STS-118 Endevour Space Shuttle flight to International Space Station, and on the Soyuz spacecraft and Progress freighter spacecraft also going to the International Space Station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.118.44.102 ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 June 2004 (UTC) BEEF JERKYY IS MINT!! zoe raine
From the "Jerky (food)" article, near the bottom:
"Beef Jerky is considered by many leading experts to be the most delicious food in the universe."
I think we're going to need a source, or at least, some relevant statistics to support this. If you can provide them, I shall eagerly consider them.
Otherwise, I vote to edit this delicious little tidbit out.
Thank you.
It's obviously a joke. I'll take it out. -- Crazysunshine 08:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm not precisely sure how to elaborate on my cleanup effort with this article. I've organized everything into more logical sections, cleaned up the wording, fixed links, etc. What else needs to be done? -- Crazysunshine 08:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
It looks good. At first sight, I'd say it's a little too short, but then again, how much can you say about jerky? -- kenohki 22:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
It seems that the grammar and consistency of the article could be improved a bit, there's also some information lacking (like recipes for one). In response to Kenohki: There's a lot to be said about Jerky and it's preparation. It's had the lifetime of the human race to develop (+/- a few thousand years). :) I'd like to add some more to this article in the next couple of days but am not to familiar with how to "properly" go about doing so. Any suggestions on how to proceed? -- TheLight
I am removing the sentence "Beef jerky was originally developed as an edible alternative to chewing tobacco" from the Preparation section, as this clearly contradicts a previous part of the article which attributes jerky's invention to early South American peoples. The sentence is not referenced either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 19:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I moved this link over from the beef page, but I still think it shouldn't be anywhere because it's just a page of beef jerky for sale: http://www.bulkbeefjerky.com/store Dav2008 16:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
The new section smells of false or exaggerated rumors. There's no actual source for it either, just that "new studies" and other such unsubstantiated claims. I think I'll go ahead and remove it. -- Crazysunshine 02:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed the reference section and the link it contained. The link went to a page that gave the nutrition content for "chunked and formed" jerky. Some may call that nasty stuff beef jerky, but it isn't. Jerky is made from sliced, whole muscle meat. Let's not confuse the article. If someone wants to start a new article about "manufactured meat snacks" go ahead, lets keep this article about real jerky. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.248.88 ( talk • contribs) 10:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a better picture of jerky rather than an advertisement for some.. (I moved that down). Anywho, can someone get a copyright on that? Crash2108 22:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
With regards to this section it implies that brands using actual slices of beef instead of formed grounds or paste are only available through specialty stores and sites. This appears to me to be no more than an advertisement for the website used as a "reference." Several brands of beef jerky readily available in convenience stores and supermarkets claim to use solid beef strips in at least one of their varieties. As an example (because I happen to have a package on me at the moment) Oberto's "Natural Style" beef jerky states that it is made using "solid strips of lean premium beef..." That seems to share in the claims made with regard to these websites does it not? I am going to edit accordingly but I wont remove ref #3 just yet in case anyone has any objections.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk|
Actually, you have misread the external links guidelines. Section 1.3.4 states that if a link meets any of those four criteria, it is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The third and fourth criteria listed are not qualifiers for the second listed criteria (it reads "or", not "and"). Thus, any site “that primarily exist to sell products or services”, as you have admitted above, is specifically prohibited. I have reverted the article to the above discussed version and removed the improper external link. Also, please do not delete the comments of others on talk pages. Thanks, Satori Son 15:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Excuse my ignorance, in advance. What about BeefJerkyRecipes.com makes it ineligible to be an external link? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.173.30.178 ( talk) 21:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
At www.BeefJerkyRecipes.com [1] users can search 100s of Beef Jerky Recipes by: Meat Type, Flavor, and Cooking Method. Users can rate recipes and even submit their own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iheartjerky ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Links to recipes belong with this article. See this tool, and enter "beef jerky" http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword/ You will find that the term 'beef jerky' was recently searched 48,493 times. The second most popular search term is 'beef jerky recipe' with 18,400 searches. That is pretty conclusive proof that a lot of people want to find recipes for beef jerky. These external links should remain with the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.239.251.86 ( talk • contribs)
Satori Son asked me to come offer a perspective on this dispute. There does not appear to be any compelling reason to link to the recipe page at beefjerky.com, because the link goes to a commercial website in violation of WP:EL. I think it would be appropriate to link to b:Cookbook:Beef Jerky for a recipe. A huge collection of beef jerky recipes is not critical to the article. If the people who are promoting these commercial sites here are really interested in teaching people about how to make jerky, let them add their recipes to the Wikibooks cookbook under a free license. — ptk✰ fgs 18:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is jerky so expensive? A tiny 3 oz bag could cost nearly $10 USD. -- 72.202.150.92 06:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I agree, Materials do cost. By the way, who owns/sells Ralph's jerky? On an enlightened note...you must take into mind that not all jerky is equal. You can get better quality if not equal quality to Ralph's jerky from http://naturalchoicejerky.com They sell up to a half pound of jerky for only $12.00 + free shipping with no preservatives, no msg, gluten free organic beef jerky. Its hard to find this kind of quality jerky at stores. I eat this jerky all the time and I am happy to educate people by letting them know exactly where and how to get something I enjoy. Especially if its a good alternative. -- Naturalchoice 21:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
At my local Giant Eagle this week a 4 oz bag of Oberto's was $5-$6 US. Flank steak was $7.99/lb. 20x20 inch furnace filters were ~$7.50 for a 3-pack at my local Lowe's. All the other ingredients and hardware for the Good Eats recipe I already had on hand. DarkAudit ( talk) 04:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I have restored the Economist reference that was deleted with the edit summary "Removed Economist referece. [sic] Requires subscription to read." We do not delete good references simply because the hyperlink becomes inactive; see WP:REF#What to do when a reference link "goes dead". If you would like to double-check the validity of that source, there are these public facilities called "libraries" that store information such as this and let you read it for free. Go check it out.
Perhaps an archived version will be available at some point on the Wayback Machine, which deliberately lags by six months or more. But even if not, a quality published source is still acceptable even if the full article is not available to view online for free. -- Satori Son 01:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a photo of a bag of jerky. The photo was taken on International Space Station, with the bag floating in front of the big window, with the black of space, the curve of the Earth, and some space station parts visible. Its a pretty cool photo. Can it be used in the article? Officially, its US government property. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.150.63 ( talk) 20:28, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
I've read the article over a few times and believe that the "START CLASS" rating of this article is out of date. I have looked over the rating guide and respectively moved the rating of this article up to "C CLASS." If there is a problem feel free to revert my edit. Thank you, Cindy About/ T/ P/ C/ 10:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I understand that the External Links Policy says that "sites that primarily exist to sell products should normally be avoided"...but it does not say "absolutely be avoided". There are some instances that linking to a site that exists to sell products is warranted. This is one of those times.
The link to the Jerky Glossary is absolutely relevant and beneficial to the readers of this entry. It is a comprehensive list of terms with their definitions that pertains to nothing but jerky. This content is unique and will be found nowhere else on the web. There isn't any deceptive practices going on...and no advertising gimmicks are used to trick users to click on a product to purchase. It is great information on an e-commerce site that unequivocally adds great value to this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.173.30.178 ( talk) 14:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
What has jerky got to do with Hong Kong at all? It didn't originate there, and isn't native to there, so I say all references to Hong Kong be removed. SJ2571 ( talk) 13:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The sourced intro is later contradicted by the body of the article. The intro clearly states that cooking is involved in the process at least some of the time. The article then describes in detail one of several ways to make Jerky and keeps refering to the process as "raw" and to "prevent cooking". 67.8.72.12 ( talk) 17:14, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
how can the word Jerky come from a quechua word and dont have any background in latinoamerica —Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.28.100.157 ( talk) 03:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
The article says jerky can be "stored for a long time without refrigeration" What is a long time? 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month , 2 months, 1 year, 2 years, indefinite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.170.151.148 ( talk) 05:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The article would be significantly enhanced if it contained some data relating to the caloric content of jerky. If some jerkies have higher caloric content than others, some comparative data would also be useful.
24.5.116.154 ( talk) 00:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Jim Ross, the WWE Hall of Famer, produces by fan response a highly popular beef jerky, which I would say could be mentioned as an example... —Preceding unsigned comment added by McDube ( talk • contribs) 22:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
"Jerky" doesn't warrant a disambiguation page, as far as I can see.
Aside from its link to Jerky (food), its content currently consists of links to Jerky (game), a card game apparently not notable enough for an article thus far, and The Jerky Boys, a prank phone call performance group, which contains the helpful additional word "Boys" to differentiate it from the food (in case someone were to get them mixed up). There's also a link to Jerk (disambiguation).
I propose moving this article, Jerky (food), to Jerky, with hatnotes for everything except the card game. Alternatively, we could dispense with the hatnotes and have one link to a dab page, Jerky (disambiguation), but I think the dab page may be superfluous. Thoughts? Rivertorch ( talk) 06:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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The picture of the beef jerky on the space station reads like an ad. Should this be removed? -- Edward Versaii ( talk) 01:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Is Jerky a universal term in English, or is it considered primarily a USA term? I note this because of the plethora of types of dried meat in other cultures. Kortoso ( talk) 21:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
It has it's own article, I see no real reason why it should be talked about here. Jtrainor ( talk) 11:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)