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Tim riley, An excellent rewriting which I thoroughly enjoyed. Only a few small trifling comments from me:
I hope these are useful, and I look forward to seeing this with a green cross at the top. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 16:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I came looking for the original publication date of Physiologie du goût and am surprised to find it's not mentioned. I've found it (1825) on the French Wikipedia article ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiologie_du_go%C3%BBt), and suggest it might be appropriate to include it here. ӎᴀʀ ₲₳ƝϪѲƝƋ 10:08, 22 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarGanxona ( talk • contribs)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Tim O'Doherty ( talk · contribs) 14:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
(in English, The Physiology of Taste)->
(The Physiology of Taste): I think that "in English" is probably not needed here, given that we're on en.wikipedia.org, but if this is what the MoS suggests, and I've missed it, keep as is.
Ancien Régime->
Ancien Régime: should this be italicised? I think not; we wouldn't italicise Fifth Republic, par exemple.
(c. 1900 photograph)->
( c. 1900 photograph): MOS:CIRCA
When the king summoned the Estates General->
When the King summoned the Estates General: MOS:JOBTITLES: "
When a title is used to refer to a specific person as a substitute for their name during their time in office, e.g., the Queen, not the queen (referring to Elizabeth II); the Pope, not the pope (referring to Francis)."
Brillat-Savarin remained for nearly two years in the US->
Brillat-Savarin remained in the US for nearly two years: I don't have a MoS justification for this, I just thought the construction was a bit odd.
magnus opusand italicise "
savarin"; the former because Masterpiece only italicises chef-d'œuvre, and the latter because I believe it to be a case of WP:WORDSASWORDS.
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
Given that it would be a bit cumbersome to drop all of this into the main structure of the review, for ease of both writing and reading, I'll do it here instead. I've picked out a variety of different sources, and checked to see if they verify the article text or not. The following have been accessed via the Internet Archive.
@ Tim riley: Is there any chance this is related to the expression "you are what you eat"? — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 16:08, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, I do not have full access to David's book, but my very incomplete impression is that David is not solely saying cheese is fattening, but also that it is unnecessary added calories. Anyone following Brillat-Savarin's guidelines would for a meal have plenty of food to sustain them by the time dessert came around... but of course, neither David nor Brillat-Savarin were claiming otherwise.
Regardless, it isn't for us to imply that Brillat-Savarin was incorrect or was being hypocritical by advocating cheese as a dessert, so that wording was not appropriate. An opinion essay from 1984 or earlier is not exactly a WP:MEDRS, and it's not clear that this comment from David provides clarity on Brillat-Savarin specifically. Of course, if an WP:IS talks about David's comment, that would provide context. Grayfell ( talk) 20:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin has been listed as one of the
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Tim riley, An excellent rewriting which I thoroughly enjoyed. Only a few small trifling comments from me:
I hope these are useful, and I look forward to seeing this with a green cross at the top. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 16:43, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I came looking for the original publication date of Physiologie du goût and am surprised to find it's not mentioned. I've found it (1825) on the French Wikipedia article ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiologie_du_go%C3%BBt), and suggest it might be appropriate to include it here. ӎᴀʀ ₲₳ƝϪѲƝƋ 10:08, 22 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarGanxona ( talk • contribs)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Tim O'Doherty ( talk · contribs) 14:58, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
(in English, The Physiology of Taste)->
(The Physiology of Taste): I think that "in English" is probably not needed here, given that we're on en.wikipedia.org, but if this is what the MoS suggests, and I've missed it, keep as is.
Ancien Régime->
Ancien Régime: should this be italicised? I think not; we wouldn't italicise Fifth Republic, par exemple.
(c. 1900 photograph)->
( c. 1900 photograph): MOS:CIRCA
When the king summoned the Estates General->
When the King summoned the Estates General: MOS:JOBTITLES: "
When a title is used to refer to a specific person as a substitute for their name during their time in office, e.g., the Queen, not the queen (referring to Elizabeth II); the Pope, not the pope (referring to Francis)."
Brillat-Savarin remained for nearly two years in the US->
Brillat-Savarin remained in the US for nearly two years: I don't have a MoS justification for this, I just thought the construction was a bit odd.
magnus opusand italicise "
savarin"; the former because Masterpiece only italicises chef-d'œuvre, and the latter because I believe it to be a case of WP:WORDSASWORDS.
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
Given that it would be a bit cumbersome to drop all of this into the main structure of the review, for ease of both writing and reading, I'll do it here instead. I've picked out a variety of different sources, and checked to see if they verify the article text or not. The following have been accessed via the Internet Archive.
@ Tim riley: Is there any chance this is related to the expression "you are what you eat"? — VORTEX 3427 ( Talk!) 16:08, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, I do not have full access to David's book, but my very incomplete impression is that David is not solely saying cheese is fattening, but also that it is unnecessary added calories. Anyone following Brillat-Savarin's guidelines would for a meal have plenty of food to sustain them by the time dessert came around... but of course, neither David nor Brillat-Savarin were claiming otherwise.
Regardless, it isn't for us to imply that Brillat-Savarin was incorrect or was being hypocritical by advocating cheese as a dessert, so that wording was not appropriate. An opinion essay from 1984 or earlier is not exactly a WP:MEDRS, and it's not clear that this comment from David provides clarity on Brillat-Savarin specifically. Of course, if an WP:IS talks about David's comment, that would provide context. Grayfell ( talk) 20:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)