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Wouldn't it be best if the albums were made into their own articles? Since there's already so much text there, there's no reason not to do so. Any rejections?
The only problem being that that leaves us with several album articles quite longer than their band's article. Sirnickdon 06:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
This section appears to be not NPOV by wiki standards. Some of it is factual, but other parts of it seems like just opinion. Want to rewrite, anyone??
I was surprised that this article made no mention of Blood:Water Mission or the band's multiple Grammy wins. This info has since been added, along with an early history section and some other minor additions.
Im sure "flood" was on the US top 100 singles. can anyone check that out?.
They only used programmed drum loops on their first album. They used actual drums and bass since Much Afraid, not since The Eleventh Hour. For this same reason, using the "programmed drum loops" label in the introduction is misleading (given that only one album of six studio albums uses them). EscapingZoo 06:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Jars has a new touring drummer named Jeremy Lutito, and their new touring bass player is Gabe Rushavul. Also on the Jarchives message board, Dan Haseltine has reported a September 5, 2006 release date for "Good Monsters". He said it will contain 12 songs.
I'm wondering if the section "Jars' Belief" should be tagged for POV and/or weasel words. Especially troubling is
I'm hesitating tagging it as POV or Weasel words, but this section should be cleaned up or deleted. SonPraises 04:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Belew only produced two songs on the debut, not the whole album. This is verifiable from that record's liner notes and should probably be made clearer. I'm not that involved with wikipedia so I thought I'd leave this to someone who is.
Belew was the executive producer Thenext 01:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just trying to verify the facts in the RIAA certification table. However, I'm unable to find any info regarding the supposed 'Gold' certification of two albums - 'The Eleventh Hour' and 'Who We Are Instead'. I've checked the searchable database at the RIAA website and did not find anything. Could anyone verify this information? If it is indeed factual, please indicate the appropriate references.
Ok... So 75.32.135.3 has removed the 'Gold' certification for the two albums I'd mentioned earlier. However, how about the 3x platinum certification for their first album? Anyone has verifiable factual info for that? Ajcfreak 09:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Hrm... there seem to be contradictory sources on the other RIAA certifications. On one hand you have the RIAA which says that only Much Afraid is Platinum and Jars of Clay is only Gold, and then you have websites [3] which say that the group has 5 Gold, 2 Platinum and a Multi-Platinum?! I don't know which to believe, to be honest. RIAA seems to be the most credible, though. Should we just side with them and make this the final answer? Kneel17 08:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Album | Certification | Date |
---|---|---|
Jars of Clay | Gold | 29th April, 1996 |
Jars of Clay | Platinum | 4th September, 1996 |
Jars of Clay | Multi-platinum (2x) | 26th January, 1999 |
Much Afraid | Gold | 20th October, 1997 |
Much Afraid | Platinum | 9th March, 1999 |
Much Afraid | Platinum?! | 7th August, 2000 |
If I Left The Zoo | Gold | 2nd August, 2000 |
Furthermore - From the Studio, From the Stage | Gold | 6th January, 2005 |
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Recently, a user from an unknown IP has removed all singles from Good Monsters from this list, stating that none of them ever reached the top slot. Is this a fact? Where is the source for the singles from the previous albums? Anyone? aJCfreak yAk 17:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking that the discography section is getting a little lengthy and is pretty much consuming the whole article. So I propose that we transfer most of the information to a separate 'Jars of Clay discography' (similar to the Relient K discography page) so that this page centers more on the band and their history instead of which single did the best on what chart. We'd keep the first gallery under discography, but then the rest would find it's home on the separate page. Kneel17 19:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
An anonymous user with the IP address: 76.185.121.36 has been practicing Vandalisim on Jars of Clay's wiki, in the different sections of Band Members, Touring Members and Template claiming that a person with the name of Tyler Jarvis is on percussion as a fifth Jars of Clay member. Tyler Jarvis is NOT (or has been) a Jars of Clay member of any kind. I have made several edits (before I found out that this IP address was the same for all of this kind of changes) in the wiki and restore it from this false information. This person has been doing the same, with the same name in different wikis too. I undo them and tried to do that here but Wikipedia didn't let me because of the edits I did. Please report again if there is any other vandalisim change and report it here and to Wikipedia:Abuse reports. Thanks for your cooperation. -- FCA 04:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Not because it's ugly or doesn't fit the article, but it doesn't show the 4 members of Jars of Clay (Charlie Lowell is not in the picture) and do shows the other two touring members, which is kind of ironic. We can replace it with one of [these] which will be used for the PR of their Christmas Album. The current image may be used also in the 2000s subsection in the Band history part. What do you think? -- FCA 21:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey there people! I've just done a bit of an adjustment in the awards section and kind of stumbled upon an impasse in that there's: (a) got to be more awards than this (I don't know them all in the US) and (b) nominations for some that aren't noted here, or some that may only be nominations could be listed as wins, since the stie's being referenced only indicate nominees, not winners.
If anybody could come and help out with that, that'd be great. linca linca 02:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I was doing a little checking on the biographical pages on Odmark and Lowell. What I gathered was that they both were born in New York City, but "originated" in Rochester, NY. That's like being born in Los Angeles, but originating in Medocino, CA; born in Toronto, but originating in Sudbury; born in Paris, but originating from Nice. In other words, one isn't born somewhere, but originates eight hours away (as much confusion several out-of-staters have on the location of Rochester and Buffalo, people who originate from there are born there, not New York City).
So my question is: where are they from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paploo ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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This article has a lot of good information, unfortunately, hardly any of it is referenced. See WP:CITE. It gets very listy towards the end. The Musical Progression section is painful. Trivia should be removed or worked into the article. -- Pepsi2786 01:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Wouldn't it be best if the albums were made into their own articles? Since there's already so much text there, there's no reason not to do so. Any rejections?
The only problem being that that leaves us with several album articles quite longer than their band's article. Sirnickdon 06:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
This section appears to be not NPOV by wiki standards. Some of it is factual, but other parts of it seems like just opinion. Want to rewrite, anyone??
I was surprised that this article made no mention of Blood:Water Mission or the band's multiple Grammy wins. This info has since been added, along with an early history section and some other minor additions.
Im sure "flood" was on the US top 100 singles. can anyone check that out?.
They only used programmed drum loops on their first album. They used actual drums and bass since Much Afraid, not since The Eleventh Hour. For this same reason, using the "programmed drum loops" label in the introduction is misleading (given that only one album of six studio albums uses them). EscapingZoo 06:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Jars has a new touring drummer named Jeremy Lutito, and their new touring bass player is Gabe Rushavul. Also on the Jarchives message board, Dan Haseltine has reported a September 5, 2006 release date for "Good Monsters". He said it will contain 12 songs.
I'm wondering if the section "Jars' Belief" should be tagged for POV and/or weasel words. Especially troubling is
I'm hesitating tagging it as POV or Weasel words, but this section should be cleaned up or deleted. SonPraises 04:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Belew only produced two songs on the debut, not the whole album. This is verifiable from that record's liner notes and should probably be made clearer. I'm not that involved with wikipedia so I thought I'd leave this to someone who is.
Belew was the executive producer Thenext 01:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just trying to verify the facts in the RIAA certification table. However, I'm unable to find any info regarding the supposed 'Gold' certification of two albums - 'The Eleventh Hour' and 'Who We Are Instead'. I've checked the searchable database at the RIAA website and did not find anything. Could anyone verify this information? If it is indeed factual, please indicate the appropriate references.
Ok... So 75.32.135.3 has removed the 'Gold' certification for the two albums I'd mentioned earlier. However, how about the 3x platinum certification for their first album? Anyone has verifiable factual info for that? Ajcfreak 09:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Hrm... there seem to be contradictory sources on the other RIAA certifications. On one hand you have the RIAA which says that only Much Afraid is Platinum and Jars of Clay is only Gold, and then you have websites [3] which say that the group has 5 Gold, 2 Platinum and a Multi-Platinum?! I don't know which to believe, to be honest. RIAA seems to be the most credible, though. Should we just side with them and make this the final answer? Kneel17 08:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Album | Certification | Date |
---|---|---|
Jars of Clay | Gold | 29th April, 1996 |
Jars of Clay | Platinum | 4th September, 1996 |
Jars of Clay | Multi-platinum (2x) | 26th January, 1999 |
Much Afraid | Gold | 20th October, 1997 |
Much Afraid | Platinum | 9th March, 1999 |
Much Afraid | Platinum?! | 7th August, 2000 |
If I Left The Zoo | Gold | 2nd August, 2000 |
Furthermore - From the Studio, From the Stage | Gold | 6th January, 2005 |
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Recently, a user from an unknown IP has removed all singles from Good Monsters from this list, stating that none of them ever reached the top slot. Is this a fact? Where is the source for the singles from the previous albums? Anyone? aJCfreak yAk 17:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking that the discography section is getting a little lengthy and is pretty much consuming the whole article. So I propose that we transfer most of the information to a separate 'Jars of Clay discography' (similar to the Relient K discography page) so that this page centers more on the band and their history instead of which single did the best on what chart. We'd keep the first gallery under discography, but then the rest would find it's home on the separate page. Kneel17 19:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
An anonymous user with the IP address: 76.185.121.36 has been practicing Vandalisim on Jars of Clay's wiki, in the different sections of Band Members, Touring Members and Template claiming that a person with the name of Tyler Jarvis is on percussion as a fifth Jars of Clay member. Tyler Jarvis is NOT (or has been) a Jars of Clay member of any kind. I have made several edits (before I found out that this IP address was the same for all of this kind of changes) in the wiki and restore it from this false information. This person has been doing the same, with the same name in different wikis too. I undo them and tried to do that here but Wikipedia didn't let me because of the edits I did. Please report again if there is any other vandalisim change and report it here and to Wikipedia:Abuse reports. Thanks for your cooperation. -- FCA 04:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Not because it's ugly or doesn't fit the article, but it doesn't show the 4 members of Jars of Clay (Charlie Lowell is not in the picture) and do shows the other two touring members, which is kind of ironic. We can replace it with one of [these] which will be used for the PR of their Christmas Album. The current image may be used also in the 2000s subsection in the Band history part. What do you think? -- FCA 21:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey there people! I've just done a bit of an adjustment in the awards section and kind of stumbled upon an impasse in that there's: (a) got to be more awards than this (I don't know them all in the US) and (b) nominations for some that aren't noted here, or some that may only be nominations could be listed as wins, since the stie's being referenced only indicate nominees, not winners.
If anybody could come and help out with that, that'd be great. linca linca 02:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I was doing a little checking on the biographical pages on Odmark and Lowell. What I gathered was that they both were born in New York City, but "originated" in Rochester, NY. That's like being born in Los Angeles, but originating in Medocino, CA; born in Toronto, but originating in Sudbury; born in Paris, but originating from Nice. In other words, one isn't born somewhere, but originates eight hours away (as much confusion several out-of-staters have on the location of Rochester and Buffalo, people who originate from there are born there, not New York City).
So my question is: where are they from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paploo ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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This article has a lot of good information, unfortunately, hardly any of it is referenced. See WP:CITE. It gets very listy towards the end. The Musical Progression section is painful. Trivia should be removed or worked into the article. -- Pepsi2786 01:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC) |
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