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Janitors or Custodians are both awesome people who clean up our messes. We should thank them at ny chance possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AaBbCcDdZz ( talk • contribs) 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The word janitor is not used in England Sebmelmoth ( talk) 15:19, 26 July 2016 (UTC) - the closest equivalent is probably "cleaner". In England, all the schools I attended had caretakers. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 11:23, 29 July 2016 (UTC) Can anyone comment on usage in other countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, ...)? Mtford 03:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC) yes do u guys know anything about Swash men? they are throwbacks to the old ways of cleaning.
Not true in Britain: Origin, from the Oxford Dictionaries:
Late 16th century: from obsolete char or chare 'a turn of work, an odd job, chore' (obscurely related to chore) + woman. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 13:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
The salary statistics cited at the bottom of the page appears to be from a self-reporting career website. The particular category that was cited only had around 100 people who responded with their salary info, not nearly enough to be considered accurate. Much of the other "self-reported" info on that particular webpage seems highly dubious and contradictory as well. One graph shows the median salary for janitors in the city of Washington to be $40,000 (!), but another shows the median salary for federal government janitors to be $19,000. HoosTrax 02:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I was redirected to this article when I searched for 'maintenance engineer' and I'm not sure why. Surely a janitor or caretaker's job centres around cleaning, plus doing odd jobs and repairs. As far as I understand it, a maintenance engineer's job is the repair of e.g. machinery, which requires specialised mechanical and/or electrical knowledge. If anyone could explain a possible link, then I'd be very grateful. Otherwise, the redirect should be removed. Jammycaketin ( talk) 11:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
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For the list, I believe the guy from "Friends" TV series is a good fit, forgot his name tho, he is refered as a "Super" (superintendent), but as far as I remember, he is doing plenty of janitorial job, including cleaning pizza boxes etc. — Preceding
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Today (at least in the U.S.), "janitor" is considered a derogatory -- kind of demeaning -- term, sort of like, secretaries are now "administrative assistants". When a custodian is called "janitor", it implies how that person feels about him. I thought I would mention that here before adding anything to the article. -- Musdan77 ( talk) 20:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Is there any statistics about sex ratio of people who work as janitors in the USA? According to the popular culture they are mostly male, but is that true? In Russia, for example, most of the custodians are women. Like 95% of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.135.76.141 ( talk) 15:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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The mother of the current president of Russia Vladimir Putin, Maria Shelomova, like her husband (who worked as a watchman), did not have the proper education and somewhere washed floors and cleaned the toilet. This can be useful information, since there was no such phenomenon among high-ranking politicians and dictators of our time.
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I propose merging Cleaner into Janitor. The top of this article even gives "cleaner" as an alternative name for janitor. They are essentially 2 pages on the same topic. Rorb lalorb ( talk) 19:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
In England we’d never use the word ‘janitor’ unless quoting from US/Canada shows, we say caretaker or groundskeeper for someone who looks after a building or grounds (e.g. school, golf course,…). If someone cleans, they’re called a ‘cleaner’ not a janitor here.
If you look up the def of ‘janitor’ on google it’s listed as only in use in US, Canada and maybe Scotland. Whereas a word like ‘groundskeeper’ is more widespread, I would suggest renaming this article to ‘groundskeeper’ to be more inclusive. Or merge it with cleaner. Ferge114 ( talk) 23:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Janitors or Custodians are both awesome people who clean up our messes. We should thank them at ny chance possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AaBbCcDdZz ( talk • contribs) 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The word janitor is not used in England Sebmelmoth ( talk) 15:19, 26 July 2016 (UTC) - the closest equivalent is probably "cleaner". In England, all the schools I attended had caretakers. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 11:23, 29 July 2016 (UTC) Can anyone comment on usage in other countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, ...)? Mtford 03:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC) yes do u guys know anything about Swash men? they are throwbacks to the old ways of cleaning.
Not true in Britain: Origin, from the Oxford Dictionaries:
Late 16th century: from obsolete char or chare 'a turn of work, an odd job, chore' (obscurely related to chore) + woman. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 13:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
The salary statistics cited at the bottom of the page appears to be from a self-reporting career website. The particular category that was cited only had around 100 people who responded with their salary info, not nearly enough to be considered accurate. Much of the other "self-reported" info on that particular webpage seems highly dubious and contradictory as well. One graph shows the median salary for janitors in the city of Washington to be $40,000 (!), but another shows the median salary for federal government janitors to be $19,000. HoosTrax 02:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I was redirected to this article when I searched for 'maintenance engineer' and I'm not sure why. Surely a janitor or caretaker's job centres around cleaning, plus doing odd jobs and repairs. As far as I understand it, a maintenance engineer's job is the repair of e.g. machinery, which requires specialised mechanical and/or electrical knowledge. If anyone could explain a possible link, then I'd be very grateful. Otherwise, the redirect should be removed. Jammycaketin ( talk) 11:43, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
This thread in the article begins:
Not one of the references is entered correctly so that the information can be verified. If it cannot be verified it cannot be included. The entire sentence should either be removed or re-written. ``` Buster Seven Talk 02:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
For the list, I believe the guy from "Friends" TV series is a good fit, forgot his name tho, he is refered as a "Super" (superintendent), but as far as I remember, he is doing plenty of janitorial job, including cleaning pizza boxes etc. — Preceding
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Today (at least in the U.S.), "janitor" is considered a derogatory -- kind of demeaning -- term, sort of like, secretaries are now "administrative assistants". When a custodian is called "janitor", it implies how that person feels about him. I thought I would mention that here before adding anything to the article. -- Musdan77 ( talk) 20:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Is there any statistics about sex ratio of people who work as janitors in the USA? According to the popular culture they are mostly male, but is that true? In Russia, for example, most of the custodians are women. Like 95% of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.135.76.141 ( talk) 15:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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I propose merging Cleaner into Janitor. The top of this article even gives "cleaner" as an alternative name for janitor. They are essentially 2 pages on the same topic. Rorb lalorb ( talk) 19:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
In England we’d never use the word ‘janitor’ unless quoting from US/Canada shows, we say caretaker or groundskeeper for someone who looks after a building or grounds (e.g. school, golf course,…). If someone cleans, they’re called a ‘cleaner’ not a janitor here.
If you look up the def of ‘janitor’ on google it’s listed as only in use in US, Canada and maybe Scotland. Whereas a word like ‘groundskeeper’ is more widespread, I would suggest renaming this article to ‘groundskeeper’ to be more inclusive. Or merge it with cleaner. Ferge114 ( talk) 23:57, 17 May 2024 (UTC)