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Thank you for the information. Although Jane was not a direct member of the Weatherman Organization it is interesting to lean about how her actions effected the group. The Weathermen should have responded to her criticism, this might have boosted the publics confidence in them. Lalalajane ( talk) 09:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: The article refers to the WUO by abbreviation, but might be clearer to a wider readership if that abbreviation is spelled out in the first such reference [something like "Weather Underground Organization (WUO)"], and then subsequent references could be by abbreviation.-- Historytrain ( talk) 20:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I suggest that the in-text references to "Sam" be shifted to either full-name ("Sam Melville") or surname ("Melville"). This approach works more closely with scholarly conventions or reference.-- Historytrain ( talk) 20:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I agree with the in-text reference to the subject,referring to the subject with Alpert or Jane Alpert would be helpful. But I do apreciate the information that was found on this person and her contributions to the Weathermen/Weather Underground Organization. Tjcjaj ( talk) 02:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: References make more sense when they are posted in a consistent format, thats why I reverted to the older version. The opening is more on target now also. Lalalajane ( talk) 03:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I have restored cited and verifiable material recently removed from the article, and the entire lead section. The cited material comes from reliable sources; please do not remove it without good reason and discussion on this talk page.
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– that's what I've tried to do. Without the bombings Alpert (and for that matter Sam Melville) would not rate an article on Wikipedia. The bombings and what ensued are facts, they are what make her notable, all else is secondary.
IMO this article still needs a lot of work; I hope people will add additional cited (and accessible online) material from "reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". -- CliffC ( talk) 21:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
(Copied from CliffC's talk page, let's keep the discussion here.)
I really appreciate all the informationt hat you were able to add to the Jane Alpert entry. What you had to add clearly helped fill her page with valid and cited information. I believe that Jane Alpert should deserve her own page and therefore on the entry section I think it would be best if it was left for her, and not include Sam Melville. Let me know what you think! Thanks! jjs8 —Preceding
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Comment: While a biography of Alpert without mention of Melville would needlessly slight his role, a biography of Alpert dominated by references to him would decidedly diminish hers. Although most sixties/seventies bombers had co-conspirators, they do not always require mention within the lead of a biography devoted to another. After all, if Melville was Alpert's co-conspirator, she was his. Just as Alpert is absent from the lead on Melville's biography, I see no need for Melville to appear in hers. The focus here should remain on the individual at the center of the life-story featured, in this case an activist/author of note. --
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Comment: CliffC did a great job rewriting the lead without referencing to Melville. The lead gives a lot of great information and the citations are great. Jjs8 20:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)jjs8
Hey folks, the last couple of edits are stepping very close to edit warring. I suggest bringing issues with the article to this talk page, discussing those changes, and trying to reach consensus on them. As it is, a couple people have removed cited material, which is unacceptable without consensus. Murderbike ( talk) 03:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I have not removed any cited material but have put the cited material in a different section where I think it fits better. Thank you! jjs8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjs8 ( talk • contribs) 05:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
What about what she's been doing for the past 30 years? Badagnani ( talk) 08:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I think this is her? http://www.stratwrite.com/whoarewe.html Ron Newman ( talk) 18:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Mark Rudd on his blog says Alpert and Robin Morgan sold him and his wife out to the police.-- Radh ( talk) 09:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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According to this article, Jane Alpert's life ended in 1981. Seriously, has anything happened since? J S Ayer ( talk) 03:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thank you for the information. Although Jane was not a direct member of the Weatherman Organization it is interesting to lean about how her actions effected the group. The Weathermen should have responded to her criticism, this might have boosted the publics confidence in them. Lalalajane ( talk) 09:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: The article refers to the WUO by abbreviation, but might be clearer to a wider readership if that abbreviation is spelled out in the first such reference [something like "Weather Underground Organization (WUO)"], and then subsequent references could be by abbreviation.-- Historytrain ( talk) 20:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I suggest that the in-text references to "Sam" be shifted to either full-name ("Sam Melville") or surname ("Melville"). This approach works more closely with scholarly conventions or reference.-- Historytrain ( talk) 20:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I agree with the in-text reference to the subject,referring to the subject with Alpert or Jane Alpert would be helpful. But I do apreciate the information that was found on this person and her contributions to the Weathermen/Weather Underground Organization. Tjcjaj ( talk) 02:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: References make more sense when they are posted in a consistent format, thats why I reverted to the older version. The opening is more on target now also. Lalalajane ( talk) 03:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I have restored cited and verifiable material recently removed from the article, and the entire lead section. The cited material comes from reliable sources; please do not remove it without good reason and discussion on this talk page.
According to WP:LEAD,
“ | The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, summarizing the most important points, explaining why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describing its notable controversies, if there are any. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic according to reliable, published sources. | ” |
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– that's what I've tried to do. Without the bombings Alpert (and for that matter Sam Melville) would not rate an article on Wikipedia. The bombings and what ensued are facts, they are what make her notable, all else is secondary.
IMO this article still needs a lot of work; I hope people will add additional cited (and accessible online) material from "reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". -- CliffC ( talk) 21:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
(Copied from CliffC's talk page, let's keep the discussion here.)
I really appreciate all the informationt hat you were able to add to the Jane Alpert entry. What you had to add clearly helped fill her page with valid and cited information. I believe that Jane Alpert should deserve her own page and therefore on the entry section I think it would be best if it was left for her, and not include Sam Melville. Let me know what you think! Thanks! jjs8 —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Jjs8 (
talk •
contribs)
00:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: While a biography of Alpert without mention of Melville would needlessly slight his role, a biography of Alpert dominated by references to him would decidedly diminish hers. Although most sixties/seventies bombers had co-conspirators, they do not always require mention within the lead of a biography devoted to another. After all, if Melville was Alpert's co-conspirator, she was his. Just as Alpert is absent from the lead on Melville's biography, I see no need for Melville to appear in hers. The focus here should remain on the individual at the center of the life-story featured, in this case an activist/author of note. --
Historytrain (
talk)
16:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Comment: CliffC did a great job rewriting the lead without referencing to Melville. The lead gives a lot of great information and the citations are great. Jjs8 20:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)jjs8
Hey folks, the last couple of edits are stepping very close to edit warring. I suggest bringing issues with the article to this talk page, discussing those changes, and trying to reach consensus on them. As it is, a couple people have removed cited material, which is unacceptable without consensus. Murderbike ( talk) 03:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I have not removed any cited material but have put the cited material in a different section where I think it fits better. Thank you! jjs8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjs8 ( talk • contribs) 05:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
What about what she's been doing for the past 30 years? Badagnani ( talk) 08:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I think this is her? http://www.stratwrite.com/whoarewe.html Ron Newman ( talk) 18:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Mark Rudd on his blog says Alpert and Robin Morgan sold him and his wife out to the police.-- Radh ( talk) 09:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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According to this article, Jane Alpert's life ended in 1981. Seriously, has anything happened since? J S Ayer ( talk) 03:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)