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1. Cagney Married Carolyn Nelson. 2. The movie is "Angels with Dirty Faces" not wings ....
I have a lot to say about Cagney. Only for the moment am I saying nothing. Orangetuesday 07:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This might be of interest to the article; When asked who the greatest movie star of all time is, Orson Welles said James Cagney. This is in the Parkinson interview (on youtube, part 4). -- 85.83.126.224 02:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia - not sure if this would be worth changing, but Cagney's own quote, sourced from the Doug Warren biography, about how he refused to say the line 'I'm your baby, ain't I?' in 'Sinner's Holiday', must have been a misremembering on his part. He says the line loud and clear in the original trailer for the movie, which is on the TCM website. It was cut from the finished movie. -- Juditoo ( talk) 16:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad Cagney got a postage stamp, but can't we get a better picture than that? Come on. There must be dozens of great and usable pictures on the net. Also there should be more than one, which can go next to the filmography. -- Mantanmoreland 03:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What do people think of the new picture? I think the copyright situation is OK. Is it correctly formatted? I don't have much experience with photos.-- Mantanmoreland 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
It is opinion and OR, unless one can cite it, to say that Cagney is remembered as a noir star or crime picture guy. He starred in a wide variety of roles, particularly in his later career. He won an Academy Award portraying George M. Cohan. It is more accurate to describe him as winning acclaim for a wide variety of roles, and I have changed the lead paragraph to say so. (P.S.why am I the only one using Talk?)- Mantanmoreland 20:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
As long as I'm griping, I would add that this article really could use a lot of strengthening. He was a subject of several biographies and at least one autobiographical book, Cagney by Cagney. There is tons of stuff out there. I will do my best to flesh out this article but I hope that others pitch in. I'll post a notice somewhere to see if more editors can flock in and work on this.-- Mantanmoreland 20:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for adding information to the Cagney article. However, a couple of notes. You made over forty minor edits in about an hour. It would serve WP better if you would use the sandbox or other means to construct your submissions exactly the way you want them and then submit them, rather than several dozen tweaks in a row. It makes it very tedious for others to follow your edits. Also, even though you submitted much useful information, you have unfortunately slaughtered the grammar and understandability of the article. Sentences now run into each other without sense, words are misused ("it's" for "its," etc.), and it will take someone a fair amount of time to correct these errors. Perhaps you would be willing to go over the article now, sentence by sentence, and repair not the content but the grammar. Thank you. Monkeyzpop ( talk) 20:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 10:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, so this article is currently at Start level, and has clearly a long way to go before we can get it on the front page. I've made a few changes to the lead and early life sections having just got hold of a bio.
However, I think the that the whole things needs a considerable rewrite. I suggest that the career section needs splitting up, it should be the meat of the article and I really think it needs some subsections. Perhaps we could split it by stage, and then by film, possibly subdivided by studio/independent. Additionally, there are some stuff that come from the IMDB trivia section, which really isn't reliable. I'm hoping to get hold of his autobio and another bio of him over the next few days which hopefully will allow some better sourcing of stuff. I'll keep making more minor edits and other general stuff while hopefully we can reach a consensus here Ged UK ( talk) 19:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Got "Cagney by Cagney" ... p. 164 has "(in 1939) When Ronnie (Reagan) and I saw in what direction the group was headed we both resigned the same night." Also, that his first vote for a Republican was for Tom Dewey, and that he went to a Willkie election party wearing a Roosevelt button. I think this brackets his political change, to be sure. Collect ( talk) 18:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) Ged UK asked me to take a look at the article, which was when I noted the category and the ref with it. There really isn't a precedent for adding a ref to a category addition. While it doesn't show in the reflist, it does leave a cite # hanging at the bottom of the article, which looks odd. The article is slated to be included in the Version 0.7 release, which will be basically set on Monday. I don't really want a hanging ref # in the release. At present, all the newsmeat link shows is that Cagney made a handful of donations to the Republican party machine once his friend Ronald Reagan began his presidency run. That alone doesn't confirm he's anything besides supportive of a friend's major political effort. That's my objection to it at the present moment. Meanwhile, the information isn't going to go away, and once it is covered in the article, if it is supported, it will be fine. I'd like to note that when there have been several very recent edits to an article, it wouldn't hurt to check for an {{inuse}} template, which was there when you returned the category last night. It nearly compromised 2 hours of work when I started to save it (see the time frame on the history). The "inuse" template is a great tool when you know you're going to be there a while. Now, on to other things.
This is essentially the note I left for Ged UK: I actually think the article is shaping up quite nicely. I did a bit of copying editing (a very little bit) and reference formatting (using template citation style), which I'd be glad to do as it goes along if that style isn't something you're familiar with doing. I found a specific citation for the Orson Welles video (the actual television episode) and added that. One thing I'm not as comfortable with are the numerous quotes highlighted in the article. There are 14 instances of quotes highlighted - either in a box or a quote template. I'm afraid that is probably too many, at a point when the article would be reviewed for FA status, that would be an issue raised. I'm sure that most could be blended into the article and leave only two or three as standouts. The quotes and miscellaneous facts should probably be incorporated into the article - the last bit, on his grandson working in a video store, is sourced from IMDB. IMDB isn't considered reliable for something like that, and really, what does it matter where his grandson works? Maybe he owns it? In any case, I'll come back tomorrow night and work on the citation templates some more. FA will definitely require one style only of citation within the article and the templates allow for good organization of the citation material. Let me know if there is something specific you'd like me to do. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 13:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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Sorry I haven't done much to this article recently, I'll try to knuckle down and finish the career section and update the personal life section as soon as I can. -- Ged UK ( talk) 09:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I did take the "liberty" of adding the Jack Warner dubbing of him as an "againster" with cite to the lede ... it was actually used on several actors by him, it appears. Collect ( talk) 13:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Stuyvesant H.S. would've been delighted to claim Cagney, but he graduated from Seward Park. E A ( talk) 18:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure you wrote what's sourced too, as it's in at least one of his obits. I only mention it because I went to Stuy, and it was an embarrassment that we couldn't claim him as a graduate. I'd be happy to be wrong! E A ( talk) 15:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a note about a possible error, I'll let y'all make the correction. In the second paragraph, the term 'hoofer' has a link to the article 'Dance' in which 'hoofer' does not appear. Using the Wiki search engine for 'hoofer' redirects to the article 'Tap Dance', the link should be corrected. i.e.» hoofer. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.254.252 ( talk) 02:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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1. Cagney Married Carolyn Nelson. 2. The movie is "Angels with Dirty Faces" not wings ....
I have a lot to say about Cagney. Only for the moment am I saying nothing. Orangetuesday 07:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This might be of interest to the article; When asked who the greatest movie star of all time is, Orson Welles said James Cagney. This is in the Parkinson interview (on youtube, part 4). -- 85.83.126.224 02:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia - not sure if this would be worth changing, but Cagney's own quote, sourced from the Doug Warren biography, about how he refused to say the line 'I'm your baby, ain't I?' in 'Sinner's Holiday', must have been a misremembering on his part. He says the line loud and clear in the original trailer for the movie, which is on the TCM website. It was cut from the finished movie. -- Juditoo ( talk) 16:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad Cagney got a postage stamp, but can't we get a better picture than that? Come on. There must be dozens of great and usable pictures on the net. Also there should be more than one, which can go next to the filmography. -- Mantanmoreland 03:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
What do people think of the new picture? I think the copyright situation is OK. Is it correctly formatted? I don't have much experience with photos.-- Mantanmoreland 23:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
It is opinion and OR, unless one can cite it, to say that Cagney is remembered as a noir star or crime picture guy. He starred in a wide variety of roles, particularly in his later career. He won an Academy Award portraying George M. Cohan. It is more accurate to describe him as winning acclaim for a wide variety of roles, and I have changed the lead paragraph to say so. (P.S.why am I the only one using Talk?)- Mantanmoreland 20:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
As long as I'm griping, I would add that this article really could use a lot of strengthening. He was a subject of several biographies and at least one autobiographical book, Cagney by Cagney. There is tons of stuff out there. I will do my best to flesh out this article but I hope that others pitch in. I'll post a notice somewhere to see if more editors can flock in and work on this.-- Mantanmoreland 20:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for adding information to the Cagney article. However, a couple of notes. You made over forty minor edits in about an hour. It would serve WP better if you would use the sandbox or other means to construct your submissions exactly the way you want them and then submit them, rather than several dozen tweaks in a row. It makes it very tedious for others to follow your edits. Also, even though you submitted much useful information, you have unfortunately slaughtered the grammar and understandability of the article. Sentences now run into each other without sense, words are misused ("it's" for "its," etc.), and it will take someone a fair amount of time to correct these errors. Perhaps you would be willing to go over the article now, sentence by sentence, and repair not the content but the grammar. Thank you. Monkeyzpop ( talk) 20:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 10:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, so this article is currently at Start level, and has clearly a long way to go before we can get it on the front page. I've made a few changes to the lead and early life sections having just got hold of a bio.
However, I think the that the whole things needs a considerable rewrite. I suggest that the career section needs splitting up, it should be the meat of the article and I really think it needs some subsections. Perhaps we could split it by stage, and then by film, possibly subdivided by studio/independent. Additionally, there are some stuff that come from the IMDB trivia section, which really isn't reliable. I'm hoping to get hold of his autobio and another bio of him over the next few days which hopefully will allow some better sourcing of stuff. I'll keep making more minor edits and other general stuff while hopefully we can reach a consensus here Ged UK ( talk) 19:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Got "Cagney by Cagney" ... p. 164 has "(in 1939) When Ronnie (Reagan) and I saw in what direction the group was headed we both resigned the same night." Also, that his first vote for a Republican was for Tom Dewey, and that he went to a Willkie election party wearing a Roosevelt button. I think this brackets his political change, to be sure. Collect ( talk) 18:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) Ged UK asked me to take a look at the article, which was when I noted the category and the ref with it. There really isn't a precedent for adding a ref to a category addition. While it doesn't show in the reflist, it does leave a cite # hanging at the bottom of the article, which looks odd. The article is slated to be included in the Version 0.7 release, which will be basically set on Monday. I don't really want a hanging ref # in the release. At present, all the newsmeat link shows is that Cagney made a handful of donations to the Republican party machine once his friend Ronald Reagan began his presidency run. That alone doesn't confirm he's anything besides supportive of a friend's major political effort. That's my objection to it at the present moment. Meanwhile, the information isn't going to go away, and once it is covered in the article, if it is supported, it will be fine. I'd like to note that when there have been several very recent edits to an article, it wouldn't hurt to check for an {{inuse}} template, which was there when you returned the category last night. It nearly compromised 2 hours of work when I started to save it (see the time frame on the history). The "inuse" template is a great tool when you know you're going to be there a while. Now, on to other things.
This is essentially the note I left for Ged UK: I actually think the article is shaping up quite nicely. I did a bit of copying editing (a very little bit) and reference formatting (using template citation style), which I'd be glad to do as it goes along if that style isn't something you're familiar with doing. I found a specific citation for the Orson Welles video (the actual television episode) and added that. One thing I'm not as comfortable with are the numerous quotes highlighted in the article. There are 14 instances of quotes highlighted - either in a box or a quote template. I'm afraid that is probably too many, at a point when the article would be reviewed for FA status, that would be an issue raised. I'm sure that most could be blended into the article and leave only two or three as standouts. The quotes and miscellaneous facts should probably be incorporated into the article - the last bit, on his grandson working in a video store, is sourced from IMDB. IMDB isn't considered reliable for something like that, and really, what does it matter where his grandson works? Maybe he owns it? In any case, I'll come back tomorrow night and work on the citation templates some more. FA will definitely require one style only of citation within the article and the templates allow for good organization of the citation material. Let me know if there is something specific you'd like me to do. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 13:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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Sorry I haven't done much to this article recently, I'll try to knuckle down and finish the career section and update the personal life section as soon as I can. -- Ged UK ( talk) 09:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I did take the "liberty" of adding the Jack Warner dubbing of him as an "againster" with cite to the lede ... it was actually used on several actors by him, it appears. Collect ( talk) 13:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Stuyvesant H.S. would've been delighted to claim Cagney, but he graduated from Seward Park. E A ( talk) 18:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure you wrote what's sourced too, as it's in at least one of his obits. I only mention it because I went to Stuy, and it was an embarrassment that we couldn't claim him as a graduate. I'd be happy to be wrong! E A ( talk) 15:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a note about a possible error, I'll let y'all make the correction. In the second paragraph, the term 'hoofer' has a link to the article 'Dance' in which 'hoofer' does not appear. Using the Wiki search engine for 'hoofer' redirects to the article 'Tap Dance', the link should be corrected. i.e.» hoofer. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.254.252 ( talk) 02:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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