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The article says the similarity in name to Jamaica the island is not a coincidence and then explains it is a coincidence. Also "is not a coincidence" sounds kinda unprofessional. Maybe say one is a cognate of the other, which also isn't true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamaelGJ ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
The history of Jamaica states that the Lenape word for Beaver, Jameco, is the source of the name, rather than Xamayca, the Taino's word for land of wood and water, now Jamaica, W.I. Beaver pond (now filled in) was the original site for 'Rustdorp', the land patent signed by Gov Stuyvesant, so I will use the native language word for Beaver as the source of the name. English settlers would get credit for the spelling to conform with Jamaica, a more famous english place name. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 12:14, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Until recently *ALL* of queens was divided into a FEW Post Offices
Jamaica includes Ozone Park, Howard Beach, JFK Airport, etc.
Check the TRANSPORTATION section of this article and please explain how one gets to JFK Airport in JAMAICA, NY without crossing Conduit Boulevard??
Check: JFK International Airport Which says: "John F. Kennedy International Airport (IATA: JFK, ICAO: KJFK) is an international airport located in Jamaica, Queens, in the south-eastern portion of New York City." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimryan ( talk • contribs) 14:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
The naming of geographical locations varies depending on many factors. We could and in many cases use zip codes as definers of an area. It is certainly easy when an area is an incorporated town or village, then we have a precisely defined geographical area. There are census-designated place (CDP)'s. Real Estate "preferences" play a part in naming of geographical areas, thus many buildings in Manhattan use "Park Avenue" as their address when in reality they have a very tenuous connection. Is "Forest Hills" a 'better' (whatever that means) area than "Jamaica"? If my house is near "Forest Hills" can I cheat a little and give my address as Forest Hills? Oh wait, "Forest Hills" proper was designed by the Architect Grosvenor Atterbury, so based on his original plans we can delineate "Forest Hills" proper. (Jamaica was an incorporated village in 1814) Real Estate wise, when someone is on a fuzzy border, they'll usually pick the Fancier (and high-priced) neighborhood name, especially when they're selling. One suggestion might be to look at what's going on in the local papers and how they define areas. The Queens Chronicle their Southeast Queens edition includes the following - [ Queens Chronicle]
Southeast Queens Edition:
If we just look at Jamaica as the zip codes: 11431, 11432, 11433, 11435 you'll find that this includes a significant portion of the roads that are being argued against. 11432 include Jamaica High school, Thomas Edison High School and Saint John's University. Saint Johns Web site uses the address of QUEENS, NY (SJU has it's own zip code 11439, as does York College in Jamaica - 11451). Saint John's was always referred to as being in Jamaica (and moved up the hill) by my Family for as long as I can remember.
Roy Wilkins Park (Baisley and Merrick) is in Jamaica - [ SQPA]
It wasn't I who added those roads you object to, I only reverted. I own 3 cars (all of them old). I was born in Jamaica, I live in Howard Beach, I work in Jamaica. Jimryan
This whole discussion deals with the "fuzziness" of "neighborhoods" / "towns" in Queens specifically (and NYC and other areas generally). User Zouf asks for substantiation of claims that a number of streets should be part of Jamaica. One of those streets is Linden Blvd, which user Larry V inidcates is a border street of Jamaica, therefore arguing against its inclusion, but by making it a border providing evidence for its inclusion... Hillside Avenue as the northern Border of Jamaica? Don't tell that to Jamaica High School on Gothic Drive, on the top of the hill that hillside avenue is named after. Oh and what about Thomas Edison High School, to the north of Jamaica High School and bordering Grand Central Parkway? Go to the Board of Ed Web Site and Edison's own web site and it is located in Jamaica. The Queens High School for Law Enfrcement and Public Safety is listed at: 116-25 GUY R BREWER BOULEVARD, JAMAICA, NY 11434 and is well South of Linden Blvd. As to what roads are part of a particular neighborhood or not, at the edges, it gets fuzzy. Take Merrick Blvd. Why is it included? It seems to me that such a small percentage of Merrick (which becomes Montauk Highway, Main Street, Blvd./Road etc and extends to Montauk point) is in Jamaica that it shouldn't be included. There is nothing really important along Merrick as to warrant its inclusion, yet Linden Blvd would warrant inclusion as a "border" (albeit a fuzzy one) road of Jamaica. Neighborhood borders in NY (and other places) are by their very nature FUZZY. I'm not going to substitute my opinion and remove roads which someone else thinks (their opinion) are part of a neighborhood. If there is a requirement of substantion, I believe I've met a large part of that burden, as well as making a case for the removal of Merrick Blvd. Jimryan
Have to toss out the following, Kissena Blvd was the original 'Jamaica Ave', not Fulton St/East New York Ave/Kings Highway. Following Kissena south from Flushing to merging with Parsons Blvd to ending at Archer makes this the N/S corridor for Flushing to Jamaica. Bifurcating them would be the Grand Central Parkway, Jamaica Estates is north of Hillside to the Grand Central, Edison HS is in Jamaica as is Gothic Dr, Hollis Court is in Jamaica, all north of Hillside. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 12:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
2006-06-20 18:02:27 I.M. Rich (Talk | contribs) (Fixed syntax, because the dumbass who did this part didn't so it) Comment is unwarranted.
Onyx, The Lost Boyz, and G-Unit are NOT from Jamaica, they're from SOUTH JAMAICA.
Why is this article called Jamaica, Queens and not Jamaica, New York? 'Jamaica, New York' is far more common. (The reason may be obscure history, but local usage is local usage) Jd2718 01:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This is addressed to the person who, earlier in this talk, referred to Jamaica and other parts of Queens as "towns". Jamaica and all of the other parts of Queens are "neighborhoods," "areas," or "sections" of Queens- not "towns."
The same goes for The Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Staten Island.
Also, Springfield Gardens, Richmond Hill, South Richmond Hill, and South Ozone Park are NOT part of Jamaica. JAMAICA is Jamaica. The others are seperate sections of Queens.
Lastly, why is there no demographics section in this article, as there are in other "place" articles in Wikipedia? Yes, it tells some of the ethnic groups in Jamaica at the very beginning of the article, but there is no mention of percentages, economic demographics, etc. This is mentioned in other "place" articles. Why are these left out for Jamaica? Davemarshall70 06:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Where are the floods in Queens ?------ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.76.116 ( talk) 17:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed the claim in the intro section about Greater Jamaica, as a google search reveals no evidence of such a term being used to describe the region claimed. -- 209.23.243.42 ( talk) 03:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
You mena a search like this "Google search for usage of "Greater Jamaica"". with 72,000 hits? -- JimWae ( talk) 05:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
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There was a good-faith edit that included information about future tourism in Jamaica as well as hot development. Unfortunately, the editor included information about a specific reality corporation. A second editor reverted the entire edit which was a bit severe IMHO.
I reverted the deletion but I am going to take out the information about the reality corporation, or leave it just as a note. BrandenburgG ( talk) 00:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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The article says the similarity in name to Jamaica the island is not a coincidence and then explains it is a coincidence. Also "is not a coincidence" sounds kinda unprofessional. Maybe say one is a cognate of the other, which also isn't true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamaelGJ ( talk • contribs) 14:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
The history of Jamaica states that the Lenape word for Beaver, Jameco, is the source of the name, rather than Xamayca, the Taino's word for land of wood and water, now Jamaica, W.I. Beaver pond (now filled in) was the original site for 'Rustdorp', the land patent signed by Gov Stuyvesant, so I will use the native language word for Beaver as the source of the name. English settlers would get credit for the spelling to conform with Jamaica, a more famous english place name. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 12:14, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Until recently *ALL* of queens was divided into a FEW Post Offices
Jamaica includes Ozone Park, Howard Beach, JFK Airport, etc.
Check the TRANSPORTATION section of this article and please explain how one gets to JFK Airport in JAMAICA, NY without crossing Conduit Boulevard??
Check: JFK International Airport Which says: "John F. Kennedy International Airport (IATA: JFK, ICAO: KJFK) is an international airport located in Jamaica, Queens, in the south-eastern portion of New York City." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimryan ( talk • contribs) 14:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
The naming of geographical locations varies depending on many factors. We could and in many cases use zip codes as definers of an area. It is certainly easy when an area is an incorporated town or village, then we have a precisely defined geographical area. There are census-designated place (CDP)'s. Real Estate "preferences" play a part in naming of geographical areas, thus many buildings in Manhattan use "Park Avenue" as their address when in reality they have a very tenuous connection. Is "Forest Hills" a 'better' (whatever that means) area than "Jamaica"? If my house is near "Forest Hills" can I cheat a little and give my address as Forest Hills? Oh wait, "Forest Hills" proper was designed by the Architect Grosvenor Atterbury, so based on his original plans we can delineate "Forest Hills" proper. (Jamaica was an incorporated village in 1814) Real Estate wise, when someone is on a fuzzy border, they'll usually pick the Fancier (and high-priced) neighborhood name, especially when they're selling. One suggestion might be to look at what's going on in the local papers and how they define areas. The Queens Chronicle their Southeast Queens edition includes the following - [ Queens Chronicle]
Southeast Queens Edition:
If we just look at Jamaica as the zip codes: 11431, 11432, 11433, 11435 you'll find that this includes a significant portion of the roads that are being argued against. 11432 include Jamaica High school, Thomas Edison High School and Saint John's University. Saint Johns Web site uses the address of QUEENS, NY (SJU has it's own zip code 11439, as does York College in Jamaica - 11451). Saint John's was always referred to as being in Jamaica (and moved up the hill) by my Family for as long as I can remember.
Roy Wilkins Park (Baisley and Merrick) is in Jamaica - [ SQPA]
It wasn't I who added those roads you object to, I only reverted. I own 3 cars (all of them old). I was born in Jamaica, I live in Howard Beach, I work in Jamaica. Jimryan
This whole discussion deals with the "fuzziness" of "neighborhoods" / "towns" in Queens specifically (and NYC and other areas generally). User Zouf asks for substantiation of claims that a number of streets should be part of Jamaica. One of those streets is Linden Blvd, which user Larry V inidcates is a border street of Jamaica, therefore arguing against its inclusion, but by making it a border providing evidence for its inclusion... Hillside Avenue as the northern Border of Jamaica? Don't tell that to Jamaica High School on Gothic Drive, on the top of the hill that hillside avenue is named after. Oh and what about Thomas Edison High School, to the north of Jamaica High School and bordering Grand Central Parkway? Go to the Board of Ed Web Site and Edison's own web site and it is located in Jamaica. The Queens High School for Law Enfrcement and Public Safety is listed at: 116-25 GUY R BREWER BOULEVARD, JAMAICA, NY 11434 and is well South of Linden Blvd. As to what roads are part of a particular neighborhood or not, at the edges, it gets fuzzy. Take Merrick Blvd. Why is it included? It seems to me that such a small percentage of Merrick (which becomes Montauk Highway, Main Street, Blvd./Road etc and extends to Montauk point) is in Jamaica that it shouldn't be included. There is nothing really important along Merrick as to warrant its inclusion, yet Linden Blvd would warrant inclusion as a "border" (albeit a fuzzy one) road of Jamaica. Neighborhood borders in NY (and other places) are by their very nature FUZZY. I'm not going to substitute my opinion and remove roads which someone else thinks (their opinion) are part of a neighborhood. If there is a requirement of substantion, I believe I've met a large part of that burden, as well as making a case for the removal of Merrick Blvd. Jimryan
Have to toss out the following, Kissena Blvd was the original 'Jamaica Ave', not Fulton St/East New York Ave/Kings Highway. Following Kissena south from Flushing to merging with Parsons Blvd to ending at Archer makes this the N/S corridor for Flushing to Jamaica. Bifurcating them would be the Grand Central Parkway, Jamaica Estates is north of Hillside to the Grand Central, Edison HS is in Jamaica as is Gothic Dr, Hollis Court is in Jamaica, all north of Hillside. CaptJayRuffins ( talk) 12:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
2006-06-20 18:02:27 I.M. Rich (Talk | contribs) (Fixed syntax, because the dumbass who did this part didn't so it) Comment is unwarranted.
Onyx, The Lost Boyz, and G-Unit are NOT from Jamaica, they're from SOUTH JAMAICA.
Why is this article called Jamaica, Queens and not Jamaica, New York? 'Jamaica, New York' is far more common. (The reason may be obscure history, but local usage is local usage) Jd2718 01:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This is addressed to the person who, earlier in this talk, referred to Jamaica and other parts of Queens as "towns". Jamaica and all of the other parts of Queens are "neighborhoods," "areas," or "sections" of Queens- not "towns."
The same goes for The Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Staten Island.
Also, Springfield Gardens, Richmond Hill, South Richmond Hill, and South Ozone Park are NOT part of Jamaica. JAMAICA is Jamaica. The others are seperate sections of Queens.
Lastly, why is there no demographics section in this article, as there are in other "place" articles in Wikipedia? Yes, it tells some of the ethnic groups in Jamaica at the very beginning of the article, but there is no mention of percentages, economic demographics, etc. This is mentioned in other "place" articles. Why are these left out for Jamaica? Davemarshall70 06:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Where are the floods in Queens ?------ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.76.116 ( talk) 17:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed the claim in the intro section about Greater Jamaica, as a google search reveals no evidence of such a term being used to describe the region claimed. -- 209.23.243.42 ( talk) 03:46, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
You mena a search like this "Google search for usage of "Greater Jamaica"". with 72,000 hits? -- JimWae ( talk) 05:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
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There was a good-faith edit that included information about future tourism in Jamaica as well as hot development. Unfortunately, the editor included information about a specific reality corporation. A second editor reverted the entire edit which was a bit severe IMHO.
I reverted the deletion but I am going to take out the information about the reality corporation, or leave it just as a note. BrandenburgG ( talk) 00:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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