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IT'S FREAKIN' HUEG!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSOB ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually the Cebuano word for jackfruit is nangka and not langka which is the same with malaysian and indonesian counterparts.
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Large lump of text lifted from elsewhere - refs to Figs and Plates not included in Wiki version. —Preceding
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"the fruit is the largest edible fruit in commerce"
Technically speaking, DavidHallett is right. The Cucurbitaceae family include pumpkins, which it seems, are actually fruit. And there are 900 pound pumpkins out there. As a result I'm going to trim this statement.
ManicParroT 04:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I have tried to bring some objectivity to the article by describing the importance of this fruit to the people and culture of South India. The opinion of a non-native of India (Babur) on the fruit, comparing it to sheep's intestines and such is abhorrant. In spite of my repeated attempts to add this context, the author's kept reverting to the quote. Such lack of perspective and stubbornness only serves to reduce the overall credibility of Wikipedia. Just because Bangladesh adopted this to be its national fruit does not by any means diminish its origin (South Western India) and its glorious place in the South Indian culture. To state that the "very first documented description of the fruit" is in a text written by a foreigner to India is inaccurate - [User: Sentryman101 - Born in India, living in the US since 1995] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 00:05, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Personal attacks and incorrect conclusions aside, Ragib! have you ever bothered to experience how wonderful a Jack Fruit is? It is delicious in both the raw and ripe forms. If you did, you will realize the injustice caused by the historical quote from Babur. BTW, I am not the same as Sentryman101. This piqued my interest enough to create a profile. -- Cnu123 ( talk · contribs) 13:40, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Ragib,Good to know that Jack fruit is your personal favorite. It is also good to know that you do not have any "problem" with Babur's quote about jack fruit. I have no problem with the quote either - I just have a problem with using it in the Wiki page on jack fruit. The reasons are as follows. I went to the wiki page on neutral point of view and it clearly stated the following criteria that qualify a point of view to be "neutral" and pre-requisites for including a reference in a page.
1. The reference requires an identifiable and objectively quantifiable population or, better still, 2. a name (with the clear implication that the named individual should be a recognised authority).
Including the quote from Babur clearly violates rule no. 2 - Babur is NOT A RECOGNIZED AUTHORITY ON JACK FRUIT.
Rule no.1 is not verifiable unless you have proof that there is a study that indicates that the quote represents popular opinion.
In summary, I sincerely appeal for the removal of the quote from the page. If not, I promise to dispute the validity of the presence of the quote on the page because I believe that it is in gross volation of the NPOV policy of Wikipedia.
Thanks - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 15:07, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Stop attacking me - I have a single account. Regarding my interpretation of #2, it is your opinion that I misinterpreted the rule. We will let a committee decide who's interpretation is inaccurate. Baburnama is an autobiography - quoting from that source automatically implies quoting the person who wrote it and in this case, he is not an authority on the subject. QED. cheers - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 15:26, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Well, you say that I should let the readers decide. Why dont YOU LET THE READERS decide and leave the facts alone. Fact - Babur was a Moghul emperor. Fact - Baburnama is his autobiography. Fact - He was NOT an authority on jack fruit. Why are YOU removing facts from a Wikiipedia page? Just because you can????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 15:35, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it is presenting an opinion - not a fact. Babur thought that the inside of the jack fruit resembled sheep's intestines. I am not disputing that the quote appears/not in the book. I am saying that the quote does not belong here because it represents the opinion of one person - Babur and he is most definitely not a RECOGNIZED authority on the subject. Because of this, if you choose to quote from his book, you need to state clearly who he was and how his opinon is relevant to the subject on hand - jack fruit. I DID NOT add my personal POV at all. I added three FACTS about Babur and YOU REMOVED THEM.
Regarding the restoration, I am not looking for anybody to throw me a bone in return for distorting facts and presenting biased opinions on a site like Wiki. I haven't figured out how the appeal process works but rest assured the appeal is going to come - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 15:47, March 2 2007 (UTC)
I just did and am questioning the relevance of quoting from an autobiography of a person who is not even remotely proficient in the topic, let alone a RECOGNIZED authority. Any attempts to clarify this persons's experitse on the topic were summarily dismissed by the administrator - yourself and hence the urge to appeal for objectivity - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:09, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Which portion of this is my personal opinion, pray enlighten me. The Baurnama is the autobiography of the Moghul Emperor Babur, who was not a native of India. Neither was he an authority on Jack Fruit. Hence, the above quote is merely an opinion of an individual. If any portion was my opinion, then you should have removed only that portion. Even better, provide evidence that it is my opinion and I would have removed it myself. Why did you remove the whole thing? Is that the same as "blanking"? At any rate, I dont believe the quote belongs in the page. You do. I am appealing - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:16, March 2 2007 (UTC)
So is the inclusion of a quote just because "YOU" don't see any "problem" with it. Just think about it. A reader who has never seen a jack fruit in his/her life would be completely biased by this comparison. It would be much better to provide a picture of an open jack fruit (as some other person commented in on the discussion board) and let them decide what it looks like. It is indeed a very bad waste of time for us to argue about this (we agree!). Let's agree to disagree and let a third party decide what's best. I will follow up with the appeal - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, March 2 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Sentryman on the negative perception conveyed by the quote. I am not from India and have never heard of Jackfruit before... the visual of sheep intestines is not a good start... we should only include opinions that reflect a majority... if not, then we fall into stereotyping... think about it Ragib, what would happen if your thinking would be applied to countries or races? I hereby request that you remove the quote or yourself from this conversation and let calmer spirits take over. (Prince of Carthage) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondher ( talk • contribs) 14:47, March 5 2007 (UTC)
Instead of focusing on how much each of them contributed, who they are etc, it might be worthwhile for you to focus on what they are saying (what versus the who). They are asking you to REMOVE THE QUOTE because it is out of place - cheers Sentryman101 Sentryman101 ( talk · contribs) 01:57, March 6 2007 (UTC)
Given that Babur is a very notable figure, and apparently had such a strong opinion on the matter, it's certainly reasonable to include his comments. They're already attributed to him, the additional commentary ("not an expert on jack fruits") and the like is unnecessary. It's very clear from the prose that the statement is Babur's opinion, not a statement of fact, and the source is perfectly reliable. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Very interesting. Lets follow a similar hypothetical example and see if it makes sense: George Bush is a very notable figure. He has some strong opinions about the Theory of Relativity. Does it serve wikipedia well to include those opinions in the wikipedia page on the Theory of Relativity? Sentryman101 21:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
There are hundreds or thousands of variety available. They are broadly classified into two as varikka and koozha. people prefer varikka chakka as it is easy to chew the fruit on full ripening. on the other hand koozha chakka loses its strength to retain shape and acts like fluid.
the claim about the bad smell is wrong. On full ripening, most of the variety smells nice, attracting, squirrels, crows and people from around one KM radius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P-tvm ( talk • contribs) 04:20, October 28 2006 (UTC)
While traveling in Jamacia I mentioned to some of the locals that I was disappointed there were no native vegetables or fruits on our menu. I was immediatley introduced to the jackfruit. The locals warned me that it smells very strongly and is unpleasant. I found it to smell strongly of anus.. to put it technically. However, I did not let it stop me from enjoying a truly wonderful fruit. If anything I think that the smell makes it more intresting and should be a terrific selling point. Fantisee ( talk) 18:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Are all of those translations at the beginging really needed? I find them to be very cluttersome.-- SeizureDog 21:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This article sucks; good luck improving it. Among the many things it needs is a photo of a dissected jackfruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.182.234 ( talk • contribs) 01:22, July 7 2006 (UTC)
What is up with the flavor and appearance section? If those fruits are different and aren't jackfruits, then nuke the talk about them. I think the start of that section up until the big rant in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS should just be eliminated outright. It claims the jackfruit is sweet and delicious, then there's a quote later calling it disgusting. I was under the impression it was an acquired taste.
At any rate, I'm eliminating it. Anyone who wants to clean it up, feel free to revert.
I'm highly curious about different fruits and after a bit of research am most looking foward to the Jackfruit. I've heard that it "tastes like Juicy Fruit Gum, but that that description doesn't give it justice." Can I get a few other opinions on this fruit? - DoaJ
- Markusbradley 03:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Flavour similar to Pineapple? Are you kidding me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.175.136.245 ( talk) 03:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree, it's not like Pineapple at all. It's taste and tissue are actually similar to a citrus fruit, like a grapefruit without bitterness. - Victor
Did a lot of cleanup... let me know if I deleted any important information. -- SameerKhan 23:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In Indonesia, it is not uncommon to see Jackfruit growing inside sacks on the tree. I don't know if this is to protect from insects, or to prevent disaster if the fruit should fall from the tree. Is this common elsewhere in the world, and does anyone know why? I'd mention it in the main article if I knew more. -- Bwmodular 08:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Here in the Caribbean, birds commonly eat Jackfruit once ripe. With regards to seeing Jackfruit in sacks, perhaps it was to stop birds from eating them? I've not seen them in sacks around here, but then Jackfruit are an exotic here (i.e. not common in the Bocas del Toro, Panama, region where I live)
Jonathan E. (
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Im not a fruitologist but is there actually such a thing as the retarded fruit family?
75.206.194.222 20:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Anyone helping to maintain this page ever actually read the quote by Babar that the jackfruit tastes like sheep intestines? That seems like an amazingly off comment, when he writes so pleasantly about the other fruits in Fergana and Samarkand. It just seems a bit off to me. So I just want to know how many other users here have actually read that quote in some place other than Wikipedia (or something that references wikipedia). At any rate.. it will be on my to-do list to look up. I'll let you know what I find. WDavis1911 05:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
WDavis, were you able to find any information on the quote from Babarnama? I would not be surprised though. Babur was not a native of India. Therefore his opinion would be subject to some biases. If you did find something, please post it - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.14 ( talk) 19:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply. No I didn't find the quote. I found the partial text online (hence my comments about Babar's opinions about other fruits) but couldn't find that quote specifically. It was only a partial text (perhaps on Google Books or Amazon) so it's likely I missed the quote. I'll be going on another wiki-rampage in about 3 weeks, so I'll try to remember to add it to my activities. Thanks for the reminder. WDavis1911 ( talk) 06:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Replying to your original comment above, it is quite possible that Babar hated Jackfruit. Like
Durian, those who like Jackfruit just love it, while those who don't hate it completely. So, I'm not surprised that Babar hated the fruit while praising mango and other milder fruits. --
Ragib (
talk) 08:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Replying to WDavis1911. It is heartening to see that the quote from Babur has been removed, at least until the source is verified. The article reads much better without references to sheep, intestines, and other such gross analogies. I am very curious to know what you find out about the quote. I am a native of India and have enjoyed jack fruit since childhood - I now live in the US. Babur's comment would do nothing to either change my opinion or add any value to my knowledge of the fruit (much the same with his comments about mango). Nevertheless, it would definitely help me to change/modify my opinion about the guy - cheers, Sentryman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.241 ( talk) 15:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The fruit is named after William Jack (1795-1822), a botanist who worked for the East India Company in Bengal, Sumatra and Malaysia ref Ralph R. Stewart (1984) How Did They Die? Taxon 33(1):48-52./ref.
Looks dubious. Does anyone have JSTOR access to verify exactly what this source says? This looks like a folk etmyology, as the thing was called jaca / chakka centuries before William Jack came along. The OED traces the English name via the Portuguese jaca (mentioned in Colóquios dos simples e drogas da India by Garcia de Orta, 1563). Gordonofcartoon ( talk) 16:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I have just tried it for the first time here in Saigon - I would say it tastes a lot like banana, not pineapple as much. Can we get a reliable source please? 113.22.251.64 ( talk) 16:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I live in the Caribbean. The jackfruit I have here taste more like a cantaloupe. Certainly would not have described it as like pineapple or banana. Two other people here agree it is like a melon, specifically cantaloupe only sweeter. I am referring to a ripe Jackfruit. Perhaps different Jackfruit varieties have different flavours, since we seem to have differing experiences of the flavour.
Jonathan E. (
talk) 20:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
There's mention of a "distinctive meat-like texture" in the article but I've just had some canned jack fruit and it has a silky smoothness which is reminiscent of lychees. Meat is not what springs to mind. 78.147.61.114 ( talk) 21:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Article did not mention that theres some research useing Jackfruit to produce Ethenol alternative fuel!Since there an overabundance of JackFruit in tropic lands. This may add to the economies of theses nations.Grazzi!Thanks! TRUEVICTOR ( talk) 16:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Did you mean Ethanol ? I think maybe Jackfruit sap/blood may be used for producing some renewable polymer, because I picked a bit of its wood many years ago and the sap got solid and with plastic appearance. Now I got curious about the possibility of extracting oil from jackfruit nuts in order for produce Biodiesel Laranjatomate ( talk) 16:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
An IP editor has persistently changed the heading "in culture" to other phrases, the most recent being "social impact". I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how a fruit can have a "social impact", and prefer the former phrasing, but rather than be drawn into an edit war, thought it best to raise the issue here. Thoughts? JohnInDC ( talk) 01:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I find it odd that only the young jackfruit is shown to be used as a food source while giving little to no mention to the various recipes that use ripe jackfruit. I shall be adding a section to the article detailing the various uses of ripe jackfruit.
If you find any errors, please feel free to edit them as necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackfruitlove ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Could someone with the requisite knowledge add some biology to this article. At the very least, it would be good to have some informed comment on the emergence of the fruit stalks directly from the trunk of the tree. Notreallydavid ( talk) 06:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
The opening paragraph states Jackfruit get as large as 36 inches long and 20 inches in diameter. Later under the heading "Jackfruit" the following is stated "Huge jackfruits up to four feet in length with matching girth are sometimes seen in Kerala". This is implying a length of 48 inches, and a girth (which I assume is the circumference) of 48 inches (which is a diameter of approximately 15.3 inches). Jonathan E. ( talk) 20:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I wonder if there are too many images in this article? Perhaps a number of them can be situated in a gallery. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 10:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Tamilnadu also exporting jack fruits for many countriez so dont remove it Vijayganesh.s1996 ( talk) 06:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There's an article about the jackfruit featured on the Business Insider website: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-miracle-fruit-tastes-like-pulled-pork-2015-8 The article features a video of (apparently) BI staff taste-testing the raw and barbecued fruit, as well as the different ways to utilize the plant and cultural differences of some locations within it's range:
Although reference #8 mentions breadfruit, another of the mulberry family, the WP article doesn't mention or link to this cousin of the jackfruit, likewise a staple food for many. However, the breadfruit article mentions jackfruit. (Reference #8 also has recipes for jackfruit.)
Since I have not mastered working with references as yet, will the author who added it in please fix reference #32?
Lots to "chew on"! Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 17:45, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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I have added ", and fish sauce barrels." to the page, and someone removed it. Please, change "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples.[29]" into "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples[29], and fish sauce barrels."
I have been a carpenter in Vietnam, and I know how Jackfruit wood is used in Vietnam. It is famous for making fish sauce barrels. It is the fact that even babies in the villages that make fish sauce know very well. Somebody who does not know nothing about fish sauce barrels dares to remove my contribute to the page. If I was wrong, can this person provide the evident showing that he is right?
If you want me to provide evident, please, follow some steps:
Enter keyword for search in Google "thùng chượp làm nước mắm pictures" which means in Vietnamese that "fish sauce barrels" and you can find many of pictures. They all are barrels made of Jackfruit wood.
One of the articles found when you click a picture is: https://dacsanvungmienarc2.wordpress.com/category/dac-san-nuoc-mam/ You may find the sentence of "Thùng lều được làm từ gỗ bằng lăng hoặc gỗ mít" that means the barrels were made of wood from bằng lăng trees or from Jackfruit trees."
You may find a page of wikipedia: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Bc_m%E1%BA%AFm_Phan_Thi%E1%BA%BFt I quote "phải dùng loại gỗ mềm như bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời để làm thùng" that means "barrels are made of wood from bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời" in which "mít" is the name of Jackfruit tree.
A note to the ones who read my request: Whoever feels he is super enough to overrule my contribution to the page, please, look at himself first and answer the question, "Do I do that for the benefit of Wikipedia, or I do that to make myself feel better?" Trần Anh Mỹ ( talk) 01:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
As an editor, I am going to do massive deletion in one week (Oct 1). Of all unsupported statements, and all biased ones (read the Tamil/India section for extreme bias) that has not been returned to encyclopedic standards. It's a big job, so I'm letting it go longer than I normally do, but I came here to find out about the jack fruit after finding it on the Hmart site and considering purchasing it, and this page is fairly useless. I know what type of fruit it is. Yay. Thespian ( talk) 16:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm seeing online that "Baby Jackfruit" isn't actually a type of jackfruit at all, but a type of gourd called "gac". Small change, but I think the image of "baby jackfruit" as an example of prepared jackfruit needs to be removed.
Also, I don't have the time right now to find a link, but the "Nutrition" section is missing a ton of information regarding the jackfruit's seeds, which are actually the most nutrient-dense part. They're pretty spiffy things too - you can boil them and they taste and feel like tiny baked potatoes. Could someone pump up the Nutrition section by adding information about jackfruit seeds?
Sorry if I did this all screwy. First time. 199.96.16.11 ( talk) 15:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
i didn't know this was even a thing until I had some today. We don't seem to have anything in the article about its use in western countries. Doug Weller talk 20:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
This article states that Jackfruit has many health benefits, including curing cancer, yet no sources or studies are cited to back up these claims. Thejanitor88 ( talk) 18:24, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I found three parts need citation. First, under heading Botanical description, there is a part called shape, trunk and leaves. Second, under heading As food, Africa part needed reference for it. Third, invasive species heading need citation for all information in that paragraph. I want to know more about jack fruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statutes in temples but the link no longer available. Thaonguyen127 ( talk) 20:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
The name of this fruit is known as a Kaathal in Dhaka in Bangladesh & Khatol in sylhet in bangladesh its the national fruit of bangladesh ( User:Doug_Weller) i could only find this source https://www.favcounter.com/fruits-name-in-bengali-fruits-list-bangla/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bangladeshmusicians ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
This revert was justified because the source is 4 years old and the notice is only that an Indian state recognized the jackfruit. There is no case for this content or source having WP:WEIGHT. Zefr ( talk) 18:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
hello i thinkwe should mention that it is considered one of the "mukkani" (three fruits[tamil]): 1."maa" (mango) 2. "palaa" (jackfruit) 3."vaalai"(banana) this is intamil culture so suggest adding inculture significance. 103.114.211.67 ( talk) 07:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
this article includes info on the use of the wood. that would properly be in an article on the tree/plant in its entirety. its the wood for making veenas? and gamelan drums? thats wildly significant. i propose that we split this into 2 articles, on on the plant, and one on the fruit. i know, i could just do it myself. i dont edit much any more, so prob wont get to it. 174.195.88.232 ( talk) 17:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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IT'S FREAKIN' HUEG!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSOB ( talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually the Cebuano word for jackfruit is nangka and not langka which is the same with malaysian and indonesian counterparts.
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Large lump of text lifted from elsewhere - refs to Figs and Plates not included in Wiki version. —Preceding
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RHaworth (
talk •
contribs) 20:16, January 15 2005 (UTC)
"the fruit is the largest edible fruit in commerce"
Technically speaking, DavidHallett is right. The Cucurbitaceae family include pumpkins, which it seems, are actually fruit. And there are 900 pound pumpkins out there. As a result I'm going to trim this statement.
ManicParroT 04:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I have tried to bring some objectivity to the article by describing the importance of this fruit to the people and culture of South India. The opinion of a non-native of India (Babur) on the fruit, comparing it to sheep's intestines and such is abhorrant. In spite of my repeated attempts to add this context, the author's kept reverting to the quote. Such lack of perspective and stubbornness only serves to reduce the overall credibility of Wikipedia. Just because Bangladesh adopted this to be its national fruit does not by any means diminish its origin (South Western India) and its glorious place in the South Indian culture. To state that the "very first documented description of the fruit" is in a text written by a foreigner to India is inaccurate - [User: Sentryman101 - Born in India, living in the US since 1995] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 00:05, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Personal attacks and incorrect conclusions aside, Ragib! have you ever bothered to experience how wonderful a Jack Fruit is? It is delicious in both the raw and ripe forms. If you did, you will realize the injustice caused by the historical quote from Babur. BTW, I am not the same as Sentryman101. This piqued my interest enough to create a profile. -- Cnu123 ( talk · contribs) 13:40, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Ragib,Good to know that Jack fruit is your personal favorite. It is also good to know that you do not have any "problem" with Babur's quote about jack fruit. I have no problem with the quote either - I just have a problem with using it in the Wiki page on jack fruit. The reasons are as follows. I went to the wiki page on neutral point of view and it clearly stated the following criteria that qualify a point of view to be "neutral" and pre-requisites for including a reference in a page.
1. The reference requires an identifiable and objectively quantifiable population or, better still, 2. a name (with the clear implication that the named individual should be a recognised authority).
Including the quote from Babur clearly violates rule no. 2 - Babur is NOT A RECOGNIZED AUTHORITY ON JACK FRUIT.
Rule no.1 is not verifiable unless you have proof that there is a study that indicates that the quote represents popular opinion.
In summary, I sincerely appeal for the removal of the quote from the page. If not, I promise to dispute the validity of the presence of the quote on the page because I believe that it is in gross volation of the NPOV policy of Wikipedia.
Thanks - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 15:07, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Stop attacking me - I have a single account. Regarding my interpretation of #2, it is your opinion that I misinterpreted the rule. We will let a committee decide who's interpretation is inaccurate. Baburnama is an autobiography - quoting from that source automatically implies quoting the person who wrote it and in this case, he is not an authority on the subject. QED. cheers - Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 15:26, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Well, you say that I should let the readers decide. Why dont YOU LET THE READERS decide and leave the facts alone. Fact - Babur was a Moghul emperor. Fact - Baburnama is his autobiography. Fact - He was NOT an authority on jack fruit. Why are YOU removing facts from a Wikiipedia page? Just because you can????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 15:35, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it is presenting an opinion - not a fact. Babur thought that the inside of the jack fruit resembled sheep's intestines. I am not disputing that the quote appears/not in the book. I am saying that the quote does not belong here because it represents the opinion of one person - Babur and he is most definitely not a RECOGNIZED authority on the subject. Because of this, if you choose to quote from his book, you need to state clearly who he was and how his opinon is relevant to the subject on hand - jack fruit. I DID NOT add my personal POV at all. I added three FACTS about Babur and YOU REMOVED THEM.
Regarding the restoration, I am not looking for anybody to throw me a bone in return for distorting facts and presenting biased opinions on a site like Wiki. I haven't figured out how the appeal process works but rest assured the appeal is going to come - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentryman101 ( talk • contribs) 15:47, March 2 2007 (UTC)
I just did and am questioning the relevance of quoting from an autobiography of a person who is not even remotely proficient in the topic, let alone a RECOGNIZED authority. Any attempts to clarify this persons's experitse on the topic were summarily dismissed by the administrator - yourself and hence the urge to appeal for objectivity - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:09, March 2 2007 (UTC)
Which portion of this is my personal opinion, pray enlighten me. The Baurnama is the autobiography of the Moghul Emperor Babur, who was not a native of India. Neither was he an authority on Jack Fruit. Hence, the above quote is merely an opinion of an individual. If any portion was my opinion, then you should have removed only that portion. Even better, provide evidence that it is my opinion and I would have removed it myself. Why did you remove the whole thing? Is that the same as "blanking"? At any rate, I dont believe the quote belongs in the page. You do. I am appealing - cheers, Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:16, March 2 2007 (UTC)
So is the inclusion of a quote just because "YOU" don't see any "problem" with it. Just think about it. A reader who has never seen a jack fruit in his/her life would be completely biased by this comparison. It would be much better to provide a picture of an open jack fruit (as some other person commented in on the discussion board) and let them decide what it looks like. It is indeed a very bad waste of time for us to argue about this (we agree!). Let's agree to disagree and let a third party decide what's best. I will follow up with the appeal - cheers Sentryman101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.48.239 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, March 2 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Sentryman on the negative perception conveyed by the quote. I am not from India and have never heard of Jackfruit before... the visual of sheep intestines is not a good start... we should only include opinions that reflect a majority... if not, then we fall into stereotyping... think about it Ragib, what would happen if your thinking would be applied to countries or races? I hereby request that you remove the quote or yourself from this conversation and let calmer spirits take over. (Prince of Carthage) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondher ( talk • contribs) 14:47, March 5 2007 (UTC)
Instead of focusing on how much each of them contributed, who they are etc, it might be worthwhile for you to focus on what they are saying (what versus the who). They are asking you to REMOVE THE QUOTE because it is out of place - cheers Sentryman101 Sentryman101 ( talk · contribs) 01:57, March 6 2007 (UTC)
Given that Babur is a very notable figure, and apparently had such a strong opinion on the matter, it's certainly reasonable to include his comments. They're already attributed to him, the additional commentary ("not an expert on jack fruits") and the like is unnecessary. It's very clear from the prose that the statement is Babur's opinion, not a statement of fact, and the source is perfectly reliable. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Very interesting. Lets follow a similar hypothetical example and see if it makes sense: George Bush is a very notable figure. He has some strong opinions about the Theory of Relativity. Does it serve wikipedia well to include those opinions in the wikipedia page on the Theory of Relativity? Sentryman101 21:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
There are hundreds or thousands of variety available. They are broadly classified into two as varikka and koozha. people prefer varikka chakka as it is easy to chew the fruit on full ripening. on the other hand koozha chakka loses its strength to retain shape and acts like fluid.
the claim about the bad smell is wrong. On full ripening, most of the variety smells nice, attracting, squirrels, crows and people from around one KM radius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by P-tvm ( talk • contribs) 04:20, October 28 2006 (UTC)
While traveling in Jamacia I mentioned to some of the locals that I was disappointed there were no native vegetables or fruits on our menu. I was immediatley introduced to the jackfruit. The locals warned me that it smells very strongly and is unpleasant. I found it to smell strongly of anus.. to put it technically. However, I did not let it stop me from enjoying a truly wonderful fruit. If anything I think that the smell makes it more intresting and should be a terrific selling point. Fantisee ( talk) 18:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Are all of those translations at the beginging really needed? I find them to be very cluttersome.-- SeizureDog 21:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This article sucks; good luck improving it. Among the many things it needs is a photo of a dissected jackfruit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.39.182.234 ( talk • contribs) 01:22, July 7 2006 (UTC)
What is up with the flavor and appearance section? If those fruits are different and aren't jackfruits, then nuke the talk about them. I think the start of that section up until the big rant in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS should just be eliminated outright. It claims the jackfruit is sweet and delicious, then there's a quote later calling it disgusting. I was under the impression it was an acquired taste.
At any rate, I'm eliminating it. Anyone who wants to clean it up, feel free to revert.
I'm highly curious about different fruits and after a bit of research am most looking foward to the Jackfruit. I've heard that it "tastes like Juicy Fruit Gum, but that that description doesn't give it justice." Can I get a few other opinions on this fruit? - DoaJ
- Markusbradley 03:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Flavour similar to Pineapple? Are you kidding me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.175.136.245 ( talk) 03:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree, it's not like Pineapple at all. It's taste and tissue are actually similar to a citrus fruit, like a grapefruit without bitterness. - Victor
Did a lot of cleanup... let me know if I deleted any important information. -- SameerKhan 23:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
In Indonesia, it is not uncommon to see Jackfruit growing inside sacks on the tree. I don't know if this is to protect from insects, or to prevent disaster if the fruit should fall from the tree. Is this common elsewhere in the world, and does anyone know why? I'd mention it in the main article if I knew more. -- Bwmodular 08:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Here in the Caribbean, birds commonly eat Jackfruit once ripe. With regards to seeing Jackfruit in sacks, perhaps it was to stop birds from eating them? I've not seen them in sacks around here, but then Jackfruit are an exotic here (i.e. not common in the Bocas del Toro, Panama, region where I live)
Jonathan E. (
talk) 20:10, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Im not a fruitologist but is there actually such a thing as the retarded fruit family?
75.206.194.222 20:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Anyone helping to maintain this page ever actually read the quote by Babar that the jackfruit tastes like sheep intestines? That seems like an amazingly off comment, when he writes so pleasantly about the other fruits in Fergana and Samarkand. It just seems a bit off to me. So I just want to know how many other users here have actually read that quote in some place other than Wikipedia (or something that references wikipedia). At any rate.. it will be on my to-do list to look up. I'll let you know what I find. WDavis1911 05:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
WDavis, were you able to find any information on the quote from Babarnama? I would not be surprised though. Babur was not a native of India. Therefore his opinion would be subject to some biases. If you did find something, please post it - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.14 ( talk) 19:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply. No I didn't find the quote. I found the partial text online (hence my comments about Babar's opinions about other fruits) but couldn't find that quote specifically. It was only a partial text (perhaps on Google Books or Amazon) so it's likely I missed the quote. I'll be going on another wiki-rampage in about 3 weeks, so I'll try to remember to add it to my activities. Thanks for the reminder. WDavis1911 ( talk) 06:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Replying to your original comment above, it is quite possible that Babar hated Jackfruit. Like
Durian, those who like Jackfruit just love it, while those who don't hate it completely. So, I'm not surprised that Babar hated the fruit while praising mango and other milder fruits. --
Ragib (
talk) 08:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Replying to WDavis1911. It is heartening to see that the quote from Babur has been removed, at least until the source is verified. The article reads much better without references to sheep, intestines, and other such gross analogies. I am very curious to know what you find out about the quote. I am a native of India and have enjoyed jack fruit since childhood - I now live in the US. Babur's comment would do nothing to either change my opinion or add any value to my knowledge of the fruit (much the same with his comments about mango). Nevertheless, it would definitely help me to change/modify my opinion about the guy - cheers, Sentryman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.154.49.241 ( talk) 15:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The fruit is named after William Jack (1795-1822), a botanist who worked for the East India Company in Bengal, Sumatra and Malaysia ref Ralph R. Stewart (1984) How Did They Die? Taxon 33(1):48-52./ref.
Looks dubious. Does anyone have JSTOR access to verify exactly what this source says? This looks like a folk etmyology, as the thing was called jaca / chakka centuries before William Jack came along. The OED traces the English name via the Portuguese jaca (mentioned in Colóquios dos simples e drogas da India by Garcia de Orta, 1563). Gordonofcartoon ( talk) 16:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I have just tried it for the first time here in Saigon - I would say it tastes a lot like banana, not pineapple as much. Can we get a reliable source please? 113.22.251.64 ( talk) 16:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I live in the Caribbean. The jackfruit I have here taste more like a cantaloupe. Certainly would not have described it as like pineapple or banana. Two other people here agree it is like a melon, specifically cantaloupe only sweeter. I am referring to a ripe Jackfruit. Perhaps different Jackfruit varieties have different flavours, since we seem to have differing experiences of the flavour.
Jonathan E. (
talk) 20:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
There's mention of a "distinctive meat-like texture" in the article but I've just had some canned jack fruit and it has a silky smoothness which is reminiscent of lychees. Meat is not what springs to mind. 78.147.61.114 ( talk) 21:22, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Article did not mention that theres some research useing Jackfruit to produce Ethenol alternative fuel!Since there an overabundance of JackFruit in tropic lands. This may add to the economies of theses nations.Grazzi!Thanks! TRUEVICTOR ( talk) 16:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Did you mean Ethanol ? I think maybe Jackfruit sap/blood may be used for producing some renewable polymer, because I picked a bit of its wood many years ago and the sap got solid and with plastic appearance. Now I got curious about the possibility of extracting oil from jackfruit nuts in order for produce Biodiesel Laranjatomate ( talk) 16:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
An IP editor has persistently changed the heading "in culture" to other phrases, the most recent being "social impact". I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how a fruit can have a "social impact", and prefer the former phrasing, but rather than be drawn into an edit war, thought it best to raise the issue here. Thoughts? JohnInDC ( talk) 01:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I find it odd that only the young jackfruit is shown to be used as a food source while giving little to no mention to the various recipes that use ripe jackfruit. I shall be adding a section to the article detailing the various uses of ripe jackfruit.
If you find any errors, please feel free to edit them as necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackfruitlove ( talk • contribs) 18:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Could someone with the requisite knowledge add some biology to this article. At the very least, it would be good to have some informed comment on the emergence of the fruit stalks directly from the trunk of the tree. Notreallydavid ( talk) 06:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
The opening paragraph states Jackfruit get as large as 36 inches long and 20 inches in diameter. Later under the heading "Jackfruit" the following is stated "Huge jackfruits up to four feet in length with matching girth are sometimes seen in Kerala". This is implying a length of 48 inches, and a girth (which I assume is the circumference) of 48 inches (which is a diameter of approximately 15.3 inches). Jonathan E. ( talk) 20:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I wonder if there are too many images in this article? Perhaps a number of them can be situated in a gallery. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 10:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Tamilnadu also exporting jack fruits for many countriez so dont remove it Vijayganesh.s1996 ( talk) 06:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
There's an article about the jackfruit featured on the Business Insider website: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-miracle-fruit-tastes-like-pulled-pork-2015-8 The article features a video of (apparently) BI staff taste-testing the raw and barbecued fruit, as well as the different ways to utilize the plant and cultural differences of some locations within it's range:
Although reference #8 mentions breadfruit, another of the mulberry family, the WP article doesn't mention or link to this cousin of the jackfruit, likewise a staple food for many. However, the breadfruit article mentions jackfruit. (Reference #8 also has recipes for jackfruit.)
Since I have not mastered working with references as yet, will the author who added it in please fix reference #32?
Lots to "chew on"! Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 17:45, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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I have added ", and fish sauce barrels." to the page, and someone removed it. Please, change "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples.[29]" into "In Vietnam, jackfruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statuaries in temples[29], and fish sauce barrels."
I have been a carpenter in Vietnam, and I know how Jackfruit wood is used in Vietnam. It is famous for making fish sauce barrels. It is the fact that even babies in the villages that make fish sauce know very well. Somebody who does not know nothing about fish sauce barrels dares to remove my contribute to the page. If I was wrong, can this person provide the evident showing that he is right?
If you want me to provide evident, please, follow some steps:
Enter keyword for search in Google "thùng chượp làm nước mắm pictures" which means in Vietnamese that "fish sauce barrels" and you can find many of pictures. They all are barrels made of Jackfruit wood.
One of the articles found when you click a picture is: https://dacsanvungmienarc2.wordpress.com/category/dac-san-nuoc-mam/ You may find the sentence of "Thùng lều được làm từ gỗ bằng lăng hoặc gỗ mít" that means the barrels were made of wood from bằng lăng trees or from Jackfruit trees."
You may find a page of wikipedia: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Bc_m%E1%BA%AFm_Phan_Thi%E1%BA%BFt I quote "phải dùng loại gỗ mềm như bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời để làm thùng" that means "barrels are made of wood from bằng lăng, mít, bờ lời" in which "mít" is the name of Jackfruit tree.
A note to the ones who read my request: Whoever feels he is super enough to overrule my contribution to the page, please, look at himself first and answer the question, "Do I do that for the benefit of Wikipedia, or I do that to make myself feel better?" Trần Anh Mỹ ( talk) 01:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
As an editor, I am going to do massive deletion in one week (Oct 1). Of all unsupported statements, and all biased ones (read the Tamil/India section for extreme bias) that has not been returned to encyclopedic standards. It's a big job, so I'm letting it go longer than I normally do, but I came here to find out about the jack fruit after finding it on the Hmart site and considering purchasing it, and this page is fairly useless. I know what type of fruit it is. Yay. Thespian ( talk) 16:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm seeing online that "Baby Jackfruit" isn't actually a type of jackfruit at all, but a type of gourd called "gac". Small change, but I think the image of "baby jackfruit" as an example of prepared jackfruit needs to be removed.
Also, I don't have the time right now to find a link, but the "Nutrition" section is missing a ton of information regarding the jackfruit's seeds, which are actually the most nutrient-dense part. They're pretty spiffy things too - you can boil them and they taste and feel like tiny baked potatoes. Could someone pump up the Nutrition section by adding information about jackfruit seeds?
Sorry if I did this all screwy. First time. 199.96.16.11 ( talk) 15:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
i didn't know this was even a thing until I had some today. We don't seem to have anything in the article about its use in western countries. Doug Weller talk 20:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
This article states that Jackfruit has many health benefits, including curing cancer, yet no sources or studies are cited to back up these claims. Thejanitor88 ( talk) 18:24, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I found three parts need citation. First, under heading Botanical description, there is a part called shape, trunk and leaves. Second, under heading As food, Africa part needed reference for it. Third, invasive species heading need citation for all information in that paragraph. I want to know more about jack fruit wood is prized for the making of Buddhist statutes in temples but the link no longer available. Thaonguyen127 ( talk) 20:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
The name of this fruit is known as a Kaathal in Dhaka in Bangladesh & Khatol in sylhet in bangladesh its the national fruit of bangladesh ( User:Doug_Weller) i could only find this source https://www.favcounter.com/fruits-name-in-bengali-fruits-list-bangla/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bangladeshmusicians ( talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
This revert was justified because the source is 4 years old and the notice is only that an Indian state recognized the jackfruit. There is no case for this content or source having WP:WEIGHT. Zefr ( talk) 18:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
hello i thinkwe should mention that it is considered one of the "mukkani" (three fruits[tamil]): 1."maa" (mango) 2. "palaa" (jackfruit) 3."vaalai"(banana) this is intamil culture so suggest adding inculture significance. 103.114.211.67 ( talk) 07:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
this article includes info on the use of the wood. that would properly be in an article on the tree/plant in its entirety. its the wood for making veenas? and gamelan drums? thats wildly significant. i propose that we split this into 2 articles, on on the plant, and one on the fruit. i know, i could just do it myself. i dont edit much any more, so prob wont get to it. 174.195.88.232 ( talk) 17:27, 27 December 2023 (UTC)