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I object to this removal. Nothing in BLP policy directs against content like this, which is appropriately phrased (uncertain or contested statements are attributed in text); appropriate weight (significant aspect of subject's notability), and properly sourced. WP:BLPREMOVE was linked in the edit summary (without any explanation whatsoever), but that section deals with "contentious material" that is "unsourced or poorly sourced"; "self-published"; or an "original interpretation or analysis of a source."
Neither is true here. That the subject was denied a firearms license, and was suspended from school for making threats, are statements of fact, not contested claims. The sources state these facts in their own voice. Moreover, other statements (the ones that may be contentious, and are qualified in sources with "alleged," "according to prosecutors," etc.) are appropriately attributed and cited to strong sources (e.g., Associated Press, Wall Street Journal, or New York Times, and Boston Globe).
This material was written cautiously and dispassionately, and I object to this blithe removal. It also directly counters BLP: "If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative...." Neutrality talk 19:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person.I think that includes reliable sources saying "according to court records". RAN1 ( talk) 21:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
I've brought this up at WP:BLPN#Jack Teixeira and WP:BLPPRIMARY. RAN1 ( talk) 22:28, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Should we add dates for short description per
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Short description|American airman and alleged leaker (born 2001)}}
112.204.206.165 (
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The article suggests he is an airman, but BBC reported that he is a former airman. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66111469
Should we update the article to reflect the BBC's reporting? CT55555( talk) 12:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Just taking a look at some of the text, would it make more sense to replace "chat group" with "server", as that is what it actually was? I feel like "chat group" could be confused with a chatgroup, another one of Discord's features. B3251 ( talk) 03:03, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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I object to this removal. Nothing in BLP policy directs against content like this, which is appropriately phrased (uncertain or contested statements are attributed in text); appropriate weight (significant aspect of subject's notability), and properly sourced. WP:BLPREMOVE was linked in the edit summary (without any explanation whatsoever), but that section deals with "contentious material" that is "unsourced or poorly sourced"; "self-published"; or an "original interpretation or analysis of a source."
Neither is true here. That the subject was denied a firearms license, and was suspended from school for making threats, are statements of fact, not contested claims. The sources state these facts in their own voice. Moreover, other statements (the ones that may be contentious, and are qualified in sources with "alleged," "according to prosecutors," etc.) are appropriately attributed and cited to strong sources (e.g., Associated Press, Wall Street Journal, or New York Times, and Boston Globe).
This material was written cautiously and dispassionately, and I object to this blithe removal. It also directly counters BLP: "If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative...." Neutrality talk 19:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person.I think that includes reliable sources saying "according to court records". RAN1 ( talk) 21:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
I've brought this up at WP:BLPN#Jack Teixeira and WP:BLPPRIMARY. RAN1 ( talk) 22:28, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Should we add dates for short description per
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{{
Short description|American airman and alleged leaker (born 2001)}}
112.204.206.165 (
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05:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
The article suggests he is an airman, but BBC reported that he is a former airman. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66111469
Should we update the article to reflect the BBC's reporting? CT55555( talk) 12:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Just taking a look at some of the text, would it make more sense to replace "chat group" with "server", as that is what it actually was? I feel like "chat group" could be confused with a chatgroup, another one of Discord's features. B3251 ( talk) 03:03, 14 August 2023 (UTC)