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Yes folks! It turns out that Tenel Ka had given birth to his daughter in the newly released Star Wars Dark Nest book, The Unseen Queen. People around the internet are now talking about it! However, that child is still unnamed. —The preceding
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contribs) .
Hmm... can anyone say dark side? Jacen is ashamed of his daughter, and erases his cousin's memory to keep her a secret... tsk tsk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.236.250.141 ( talk • contribs) .
Sykes
Of course Allana is Jacen's daughter!!!!! It says so multiple times! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.25.47.58 ( talk) 16:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone expand on Jacen's Force strength, powers, and lightsaber skills. 164.116.107.39 06:53 January 19 2006. (UTC)
Yes. As seen in several books, Jacen is possessed with incredible foresight abilities, much like his grandfather Anakin Skywalker, but perhaps even more pronounced. However, several possibilities stemming from the end of the book Betrayal indicate that his foresight may be corrupted by the dark side of the force, hence deceiving him into murdering a fellow Jedi (Nelani Dinn) and manipulating the memories of his cousin (Ben Skywalker) to keep it a secret.
As for his other abilities I will refrain from commenting until I have studied more material. Doncroft 02:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
We need more images. Like bad. — Mirlen 04:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it empathic, or empaTHETic? I think it's the first one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.95.59.46 ( talk • contribs) .
I think Jacen attacked it so the Chiss would attack BEFORE the killiks were ready so his kid would be safe like what he did to Ta Chume. Jamhaw 18:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)jamhaw
Shouldn't we delete that whole section? It's all speculation. Isn't am encyclopedia supposed to have factual information? Mwsilvabreen 01:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the previous comment. The books are directly comparing Luke's and Jacen's force abilities now as a subplot of the current fall to the darkside storyline.-- Drsketch 20:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I found this statement in here: "It should be further noted that in Lucas' version of The Star Wars Universe that The Sith were destroyed when Darth Vader saved the life of his son Luke Skywalker thus fulfilling The Prophecy of The Chosen One, therefore the Sith never truly returned and Jacen is actually a Dark Jedi."
This is wrong. Anakin did destroy the Sith line that he and the Emperor were part of, but the Sith are not a hereditary lineage, but followers of an idea, and ideas cannot be destroyed. The Prophecy of the Chosen One involved bringing balance to the Force. It has been favoring the Dark Side at that point, and Anakin brought it back to a light or neutral slant with his sacrifice. So I removed that incorrect statment. Simon Beavis
did anyone read Inferno? Luke practically destroyed Jacen in a lightsaber duel on the Anikan Solo while saving Ben Skywalker
I read it. Jacen had basically defeated Luke and was about to deliver the death blow when Ben stabbed Jacen in the back. The "practically destroyed" part of your statement should be rephrased "practically lost". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.11.122 ( talk) 23:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
How is he a time traveler? As far as I've seen, time travel seems impossible in the galaxy Mwsilvabreen 01:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Jacen understands why Anakin does what he does, he just thinks he went about it the wrong way.
It's flow walking not time travel.
Exactly. I wonder if Jacen will learn to flow walk forward in time... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.25.47.58 ( talk) 16:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Darth Caedus should redirect to this article. Simon Beavis
But should there be "Darth Caedus" in the charactor box? Am I the only one to think that it shouldn't? Pmuean 05:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
This article appears to be written like a biography, please see WP:WAF. Aspects of the narratives themselves are completely missing. Also, the article doesn't even feature references for its primary sources. — AldeBaer 22:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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I will wait about 4 weeks before resubmitting this article for deletion if until then no efforts are underway to properly rewrite this article from a non-in-universe perspective. Real world context and according third-party reliable secondary sources are necessary to maintain the bare minimum of encyclopedic standards. User: Dorftrottel 02:33, January 30, 2008
I have added citations for the Legacy of the Force era,but as far as anything before that goes,I'm no help there.
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18:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Though I am not normally a person that is either 'pro' or 'anti' deletion I feel compelled to comment on the unresolved issue of the article about the Star Wars character 'Jacen Solo'. I believe that this article should be deleted if the article cannot be brought up to a standard that, although maybe not at full Wikipedia guidelines; is at least within an Olympic class stone's throw from this point.
With my regards,
Biologist Minon, 31-1-2008, 13-52 hours, New Zealand Time
Just to let everyone know, prolific deletionist Jack Merridew has removed several citations referencing the official Star Wars novels from this article in order to make it a better target for deletion and is reverting everyone who attempts to re-add them, thus violating the policy Wikipedia:Verifiability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.136.165 ( talk • contribs)
They are not incomplete, they are worthless; they amount to hoax refs. -- Jack Merridew 13:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
You are reverting other work too. This amounts to vandalism. The consensus here is that those refs are junk. Talk here if you want. -- Jack Merridew 13:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Fraudulent refs, then. A ref that simply repeats the section header is no ref at all; it is a sham. I believe there are some redlinks to deleted articles that you're restoring too. Cut it out; read the above discussion. -- Jack Merridew 13:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Based on
WP:N, I see no possible argument for this to not be deleted. Although personally I'd like for it to stay, it does not comply with notability guidelines.
TheNobleSith (
talk)
05:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Invincible's out, need to finish the article so Jacen can die in agony. Yay! Bye bye JINO!Katana Geldar 01:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
They are too long by any reasonable standard, very difficult to read. So I added a tag. I suggest someone more into this stuff trim it, perhaps. Cheers, General Epitaph ( talk) 03:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I suggest merging the article into Solo family, since it doesn't really have enough independent notability to stand out on its own. I had a quick look, but I didn't get that many sources:
There's some potential there, but I don't think that's really enough for an article. – Bellum ( talk) 02:39, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Jacen is important, Bellum Stellarum, which is why I have set this page up again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20-13-rila ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
This page is listed as mid-important in the Star Wars WikiProject! - Rila. —Preceding undated comment added 21:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
"Eventually, Luke and Jacen make their peace, the former declaring that while he doesn't always understand his son, he is proud of him." This implies Jacen is Luke's son. 132.3.49.81 ( talk) 19:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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I'm opening this discussion to address my recent revert of MacCready's addition of material pertaining to Jacen Syndulla on this page because I don't believe one article should feature information about two distinct characters and because Jacen Syndulla is already sufficiently mentioned on the Star Wars Rebels character list, given the fact that the character appeared only once for a few seconds while Jacen Solo was the protagonist/antagonist in more than two dozen novels. I also cross-posted a request for a third opinion at WT:STARWARS. This talk section can hopefully serve to discuss this further to avoid further reverts per WP:BRD. Regards So Why 19:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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{{spoiler}}
Yes folks! It turns out that Tenel Ka had given birth to his daughter in the newly released Star Wars Dark Nest book, The Unseen Queen. People around the internet are now talking about it! However, that child is still unnamed. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
219.94.62.3 (
talk •
contribs) .
Hmm... can anyone say dark side? Jacen is ashamed of his daughter, and erases his cousin's memory to keep her a secret... tsk tsk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.236.250.141 ( talk • contribs) .
Sykes
Of course Allana is Jacen's daughter!!!!! It says so multiple times! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.25.47.58 ( talk) 16:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone expand on Jacen's Force strength, powers, and lightsaber skills. 164.116.107.39 06:53 January 19 2006. (UTC)
Yes. As seen in several books, Jacen is possessed with incredible foresight abilities, much like his grandfather Anakin Skywalker, but perhaps even more pronounced. However, several possibilities stemming from the end of the book Betrayal indicate that his foresight may be corrupted by the dark side of the force, hence deceiving him into murdering a fellow Jedi (Nelani Dinn) and manipulating the memories of his cousin (Ben Skywalker) to keep it a secret.
As for his other abilities I will refrain from commenting until I have studied more material. Doncroft 02:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
We need more images. Like bad. — Mirlen 04:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it empathic, or empaTHETic? I think it's the first one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.95.59.46 ( talk • contribs) .
I think Jacen attacked it so the Chiss would attack BEFORE the killiks were ready so his kid would be safe like what he did to Ta Chume. Jamhaw 18:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC)jamhaw
Shouldn't we delete that whole section? It's all speculation. Isn't am encyclopedia supposed to have factual information? Mwsilvabreen 01:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the previous comment. The books are directly comparing Luke's and Jacen's force abilities now as a subplot of the current fall to the darkside storyline.-- Drsketch 20:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I found this statement in here: "It should be further noted that in Lucas' version of The Star Wars Universe that The Sith were destroyed when Darth Vader saved the life of his son Luke Skywalker thus fulfilling The Prophecy of The Chosen One, therefore the Sith never truly returned and Jacen is actually a Dark Jedi."
This is wrong. Anakin did destroy the Sith line that he and the Emperor were part of, but the Sith are not a hereditary lineage, but followers of an idea, and ideas cannot be destroyed. The Prophecy of the Chosen One involved bringing balance to the Force. It has been favoring the Dark Side at that point, and Anakin brought it back to a light or neutral slant with his sacrifice. So I removed that incorrect statment. Simon Beavis
did anyone read Inferno? Luke practically destroyed Jacen in a lightsaber duel on the Anikan Solo while saving Ben Skywalker
I read it. Jacen had basically defeated Luke and was about to deliver the death blow when Ben stabbed Jacen in the back. The "practically destroyed" part of your statement should be rephrased "practically lost". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.11.122 ( talk) 23:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
How is he a time traveler? As far as I've seen, time travel seems impossible in the galaxy Mwsilvabreen 01:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Jacen understands why Anakin does what he does, he just thinks he went about it the wrong way.
It's flow walking not time travel.
Exactly. I wonder if Jacen will learn to flow walk forward in time... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.25.47.58 ( talk) 16:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Darth Caedus should redirect to this article. Simon Beavis
But should there be "Darth Caedus" in the charactor box? Am I the only one to think that it shouldn't? Pmuean 05:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
This article appears to be written like a biography, please see WP:WAF. Aspects of the narratives themselves are completely missing. Also, the article doesn't even feature references for its primary sources. — AldeBaer 22:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Image:Solokids.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 10:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I will wait about 4 weeks before resubmitting this article for deletion if until then no efforts are underway to properly rewrite this article from a non-in-universe perspective. Real world context and according third-party reliable secondary sources are necessary to maintain the bare minimum of encyclopedic standards. User: Dorftrottel 02:33, January 30, 2008
I have added citations for the Legacy of the Force era,but as far as anything before that goes,I'm no help there.
TheNobleSith (
talk)
18:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Though I am not normally a person that is either 'pro' or 'anti' deletion I feel compelled to comment on the unresolved issue of the article about the Star Wars character 'Jacen Solo'. I believe that this article should be deleted if the article cannot be brought up to a standard that, although maybe not at full Wikipedia guidelines; is at least within an Olympic class stone's throw from this point.
With my regards,
Biologist Minon, 31-1-2008, 13-52 hours, New Zealand Time
Just to let everyone know, prolific deletionist Jack Merridew has removed several citations referencing the official Star Wars novels from this article in order to make it a better target for deletion and is reverting everyone who attempts to re-add them, thus violating the policy Wikipedia:Verifiability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.136.165 ( talk • contribs)
They are not incomplete, they are worthless; they amount to hoax refs. -- Jack Merridew 13:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
You are reverting other work too. This amounts to vandalism. The consensus here is that those refs are junk. Talk here if you want. -- Jack Merridew 13:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Fraudulent refs, then. A ref that simply repeats the section header is no ref at all; it is a sham. I believe there are some redlinks to deleted articles that you're restoring too. Cut it out; read the above discussion. -- Jack Merridew 13:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Based on
WP:N, I see no possible argument for this to not be deleted. Although personally I'd like for it to stay, it does not comply with notability guidelines.
TheNobleSith (
talk)
05:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Invincible's out, need to finish the article so Jacen can die in agony. Yay! Bye bye JINO!Katana Geldar 01:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
They are too long by any reasonable standard, very difficult to read. So I added a tag. I suggest someone more into this stuff trim it, perhaps. Cheers, General Epitaph ( talk) 03:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I suggest merging the article into Solo family, since it doesn't really have enough independent notability to stand out on its own. I had a quick look, but I didn't get that many sources:
There's some potential there, but I don't think that's really enough for an article. – Bellum ( talk) 02:39, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Jacen is important, Bellum Stellarum, which is why I have set this page up again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20-13-rila ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
This page is listed as mid-important in the Star Wars WikiProject! - Rila. —Preceding undated comment added 21:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
"Eventually, Luke and Jacen make their peace, the former declaring that while he doesn't always understand his son, he is proud of him." This implies Jacen is Luke's son. 132.3.49.81 ( talk) 19:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
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I'm opening this discussion to address my recent revert of MacCready's addition of material pertaining to Jacen Syndulla on this page because I don't believe one article should feature information about two distinct characters and because Jacen Syndulla is already sufficiently mentioned on the Star Wars Rebels character list, given the fact that the character appeared only once for a few seconds while Jacen Solo was the protagonist/antagonist in more than two dozen novels. I also cross-posted a request for a third opinion at WT:STARWARS. This talk section can hopefully serve to discuss this further to avoid further reverts per WP:BRD. Regards So Why 19:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)