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There are sources in Farsi, which say al-Azdi (as nisba of Jabir) means Yazdi (belonging to
Yazd city in Iran), so Jaber is directly a Persian. Other variants of the word Yazd are Ayzd and Izad.
If any one could find a reliable source which denotes this, please add it to the article.
Perscience (
talk) 14:31, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
For those who are interested, one (unreliable) source which makes this claim is
here. ☿
Apaugasma (
talk☉) 14:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Al-Azd is attributed to the Arab tribe only. The person is attributed to the origins, not to the country of birth, and Iran is not only Persian
Muhsin97233 (
talk) 21:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Jaber Ibn Hayyan, all sources are attributed him to Arabs, not Persian
Muhsin97233 (
talk) 06:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Could you please cite a few sources?
James.aminian (
talk) 16:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)reply
There is no source for that! He was Persian, and his father was also Persian, literally called Attar! During that period, everyone in Iran had to speak Arabic besides Persian, so it is not surprising that he has books in Arabic and Persian.
Persiangreat (
talk) 06:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
His ethnicity is well covered in
Jabir ibn Hayyan#Biography. Please review the sources cited there, especially
Kraus 1942–1943 vol. I, pp. xvii–lxv (the most authoritative account of Jabir's biography to date) and
Delva 2017 (a recent paper reviewing all the evidence on Jabir's biography, affirming Kraus' position that ethnicity is uncertain). ☿
Apaugasma (
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There are sources in Farsi, which say al-Azdi (as nisba of Jabir) means Yazdi (belonging to
Yazd city in Iran), so Jaber is directly a Persian. Other variants of the word Yazd are Ayzd and Izad.
If any one could find a reliable source which denotes this, please add it to the article.
Perscience (
talk) 14:31, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
For those who are interested, one (unreliable) source which makes this claim is
here. ☿
Apaugasma (
talk☉) 14:54, 2 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Al-Azd is attributed to the Arab tribe only. The person is attributed to the origins, not to the country of birth, and Iran is not only Persian
Muhsin97233 (
talk) 21:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Jaber Ibn Hayyan, all sources are attributed him to Arabs, not Persian
Muhsin97233 (
talk) 06:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Could you please cite a few sources?
James.aminian (
talk) 16:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)reply
There is no source for that! He was Persian, and his father was also Persian, literally called Attar! During that period, everyone in Iran had to speak Arabic besides Persian, so it is not surprising that he has books in Arabic and Persian.
Persiangreat (
talk) 06:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply
His ethnicity is well covered in
Jabir ibn Hayyan#Biography. Please review the sources cited there, especially
Kraus 1942–1943 vol. I, pp. xvii–lxv (the most authoritative account of Jabir's biography to date) and
Delva 2017 (a recent paper reviewing all the evidence on Jabir's biography, affirming Kraus' position that ethnicity is uncertain). ☿
Apaugasma (
talk☉) 13:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)reply