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@ Number 57: What do you mean its undue? The content added is a quote, its a fact that he said that quote, its not a point of view.-- Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:57, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to add a new views section on the page but it keeps getting removed. I can't understand why this wouldn't be allowed as many pages about people have this sort of section, especially politicians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
That is your opinion and I think you're wrong. I think it gives the page balance rather then removing negative information because it looks bad on him.
Haha, who put me up to it??? Is that a serious question or are you being sarcastic? Well I wanted to add some quotes made by this guy then looked at the history and found more so thought that should be added as well. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
There any many other politicians who've only been active for a few years that have large amounts of views about them on their pages. But your logic is having no comments about a politician whose been in office for nearly 30 years, how did you work that one out?
Why would it make him look bad? Did he retract any of the comments? Clearly not as obvious as you being either Mr Katz's political supporter, his PR rep or a paid Hasbara, or maybe all three. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
No I don't know why? As far as I know he stands by all those comments so why would it make him look bad so please explain?
I couldn't really care less about what you claim your political affiliations to be.
You didn't answer why first question. There any many other politicians who've only been active for a few years that have large amounts of views about them on their pages. But your logic is having no comments about a politician who's been in office for nearly 30 years, what logic did you use to come to that conclusion?
How is this page neutral and balanced if there is no views or criticism section like many other pages? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 15:22, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually only one other user tried to but avoided my question as have you. There are mnay pages with lengthy criticism sections (much more so than what I added), would you call one or two paragraphs lengthy? It being false or derogatory is a matter of opinion. Maybe more impartial users such as User:Dan Murphy, User:Zero0000, User:Sean.hoyland and User:Huldra can provide their opinion on the discussion below? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 08:32, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
That appears to be an essay about deleting pages, not sure how it's relevant here. Nope I think you're alone in thinking that pages don't have a views/criticism/controversy section. Most political pages have this if the views received media coverage. I didn't mention Arab Israeli conflict pages, interesting you automatically thought of that though. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Also editors have allowed it on Naz Shah's page as no one is making the 'undue' argument there where 45% of her page is about her recent comments? I bet you won't be making that argument there either. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 20:37, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Nope, just hearing straw man argument. 80% of Naz Shah's page has what you call 'negetive' information. I don't see you or anyone rushing to delete it claiming undue. Can anyone tell me why this information is allowed there but not here? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 11:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
A third opinion has been requested. There are already three editors involved in this discussion. If this is a content dispute, try moderated dispute resolution at the dispute resolution noticeboard or a Request for Comments. If this is a conduct dispute, and I see warnings about ANI, take it to Arbitration Enforcement, which is quicker than ANI for issues that are within the scope of discretionary sanctions, and do not also file at DRN. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
A Third Opinion was requested ten days ago. Now moderated dispute resolution has been requested, but declined because there has been no recent discussion, and the discussion that there was largely involved conduct issues. Resume discussion on this talk page, or go to Arbitration Enforcement. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Brought here by an IP. This politician is known to have controversial views towards Palestinians, yet none of this is shown in the article. The undue argument holds no water here - this is an early stage article which editors are welcome to increase in all areas. The nature of his extremist views are widely reported, so should be in this article. Oncenawhile ( talk) 16:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes, unfortunately the IP is attempting to bring the entire anti-Israel posse here (they've pinged a load more above)... But anyway, as I've said repeatedly, the two problems here are (a) that the article would be extremely unbalanced with the section readded in its current form. Editors are more than welcome to expand the article in general in order to make it fit in. Secondly, I think it's quite clear that the editors who have added this material (and many of those who have turned up from the canvassing attempts) are doing so in order to disparage the subject – there does not seem to be any interest in improving the article beyond adding the material to it to suit their agendas on Wikipedia.
Pluto, this guy has been a minister for more than a decade; I'm sure there is plenty to write about him if anyone actually interested... Number 5 7 08:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Has anyone involved in this discussion thought to look at Hebrew Wikipedia? There is a substantial article there, with extensive details of his career. I don't have time this week, but if no-one else is able to use this material I will have I go when I complete my current work. RolandR ( talk) 15:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
The Anatomy of Human Rights in Israel: Constitutional Rhetoric and State Practice, Cambridge University Press, 2014 pp.126ff.
I don't see why material dealing with parts of his career for which he has been publicly criticized must be withheld until editors build up the article. That is highly unusual, and has no basis in policy.Actually it has a very clear basis in one of the most important policies – WP:BLP. Specifically (quoted from the policy): The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times. Number 5 7 16:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article – even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out.
Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz said (Heb) that Israel should engage in “targeted civil eliminations” of BDS leaders with the help of Israeli intelligence, intentionally using language that plays on the Hebrew term for “targeted assassinations.”(Mairav Zonszein, 'In Israel, BDS is winning,' +972 magazine 28 March, 2016);
Transportation Minister Israel Katz is known in Israel for his rather rude remarks. So when he explained, the day after the deadly attacks in Brussels, that "if the Belgians will continue to eat chocolate and enjoy their lives ... they will not be able to fight terror," his words passed almost unnoticed. Only after they were quoted and ridiculed in Western media did Israeli pundits criticize Katz for giving Israel a bad image abroad. Meron Rapoport, 'Israel seeks to exploit Brussels attacks as it did with 'war on terror',' Middle East Eye 28 March 2016)
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Should BLPs exclude critical content such as controversies and views sourced from coverage received in numerous reliable sources, if the article doesn't contain extensive general content about the subject? Or, does this violate WP:NOTCENSORED? Tanbircdq ( talk) 15:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times.If the article was expanded to the extent that negative material did not account for such a large proportion, or the amount of negative material was reduced, then it would be acceptable. However, it's also clear that the editors trying to insert this material have no intention of helping improve the article, as they've had over six months to do so, yet are still only trying to insert this specific stuff. Number 5 7 22:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Note: Nominator of this invalid RFC -Tanbircdq- was blocked for sockpuppeting (and using IPs in this article that were also blocked for 1RR).
It is a BLP problem to have an attack style article - aside the fact of the bias and misrepresentation of sources. CaseeArt Talk 05:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
user 86.154.254.204 is repeatedly bringing in other selective users into the discussion. This is not allowed and please be aware of the rule before editing or stating your opinion on the talk page. There was also noted alleged sock-puppetry here. Caseeart ( talk) 02:59, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Semiprotected one year per WP:ARBPIA3#500/30. In real life, this minister is controversial due to his opinions on A/I conflict issues though that material is (at the moment) not in the article. Between April 21 and May 2 there was a war to add such material. EdJohnston ( talk) 13:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Had more time to look closely at the section in question, and was pretty stunned by what I saw. On the face of it, the material appeared well-sourced, but scratch a little under the surface, and I saw flimsy or outright poor quality sources backing material that would be outright libelous if it turned out to be untrue.
@ Nishidani: Some months ago a now blocked editor added several out-of-context or poorly-contexted quotes supposedly made by this politician, of the type, "On date, Katz said outrageous statement", and intended solely to present the subject in a unfavorable light. Some of the sources provided were of poor quality (one alleged quote - which would be libelous if untrue - was referenced to a publication by the far-left Green Left Weekly, and an opinion piece on Al Arabiya) - so WP:BLPREMOVE. The other two were sourced acceptably but simply didn't provide a fair representation of the subject's views on the matter he was commenting on. Or for that matter, the subject's views on anything; they were included only to denigrate the subject. AnotherNewAccount ( talk) 22:28, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Removed for BLP reasons. At least one quote was potentially libelous. The others treat the subject in a prejudiced manner in some way. See talk.
</In February 2016, in response to Israel Defense Forces (IDF) chief Gadi Eizenkot's statement regarding the military's rule of engagement during terror attacks, Katz wrote on his Facebook page, "The terrorists were captured alive. I hope that the statement against the automatic shooting of minors by the chief of staff, who I know and regard highly, was not wrongly interpreted and didn't lead to hesitation that put lives in danger. Sometimes the message is louder than the words. The codes of conduct and limitations are clear, but terrorists who attack Jews should not get out alive."[30][31]
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On mobile browsers it says "Israeli politician, MK for Likud and Minister of Transport" right after the title and the page issues link. He is also the minister of intelegence, but I have no clue how to edit it. - ולאד ( talk) 18:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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The Minister's first name spelled with I, not YI. Israel katz = ישראל כ"ץ
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– They spell their names differently. The current Minister (born 1955) is Israel Katz. The former Minister (born 1927) is Yisrael Katz. See here/ Thanks, Atbannett ( talk) 19:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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There is no source for Katz's opposition to the two-state solution and the creation of a Palestinian state in any form, which he regards as unacceptable considering "our rights to this land". How about https://www.jpost.com/diplomacy-and-politics/housing-minister-says-ready-to-build-10000-homes-over-green-line-319453 82.11.163.59 ( talk) 17:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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@ Number 57: What do you mean its undue? The content added is a quote, its a fact that he said that quote, its not a point of view.-- Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:57, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to add a new views section on the page but it keeps getting removed. I can't understand why this wouldn't be allowed as many pages about people have this sort of section, especially politicians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
That is your opinion and I think you're wrong. I think it gives the page balance rather then removing negative information because it looks bad on him.
Haha, who put me up to it??? Is that a serious question or are you being sarcastic? Well I wanted to add some quotes made by this guy then looked at the history and found more so thought that should be added as well. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
There any many other politicians who've only been active for a few years that have large amounts of views about them on their pages. But your logic is having no comments about a politician whose been in office for nearly 30 years, how did you work that one out?
Why would it make him look bad? Did he retract any of the comments? Clearly not as obvious as you being either Mr Katz's political supporter, his PR rep or a paid Hasbara, or maybe all three. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
No I don't know why? As far as I know he stands by all those comments so why would it make him look bad so please explain?
I couldn't really care less about what you claim your political affiliations to be.
You didn't answer why first question. There any many other politicians who've only been active for a few years that have large amounts of views about them on their pages. But your logic is having no comments about a politician who's been in office for nearly 30 years, what logic did you use to come to that conclusion?
How is this page neutral and balanced if there is no views or criticism section like many other pages? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 15:22, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually only one other user tried to but avoided my question as have you. There are mnay pages with lengthy criticism sections (much more so than what I added), would you call one or two paragraphs lengthy? It being false or derogatory is a matter of opinion. Maybe more impartial users such as User:Dan Murphy, User:Zero0000, User:Sean.hoyland and User:Huldra can provide their opinion on the discussion below? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 08:32, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
That appears to be an essay about deleting pages, not sure how it's relevant here. Nope I think you're alone in thinking that pages don't have a views/criticism/controversy section. Most political pages have this if the views received media coverage. I didn't mention Arab Israeli conflict pages, interesting you automatically thought of that though. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 17:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Also editors have allowed it on Naz Shah's page as no one is making the 'undue' argument there where 45% of her page is about her recent comments? I bet you won't be making that argument there either. 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 20:37, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Nope, just hearing straw man argument. 80% of Naz Shah's page has what you call 'negetive' information. I don't see you or anyone rushing to delete it claiming undue. Can anyone tell me why this information is allowed there but not here? 86.154.254.204 ( talk) 11:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
A third opinion has been requested. There are already three editors involved in this discussion. If this is a content dispute, try moderated dispute resolution at the dispute resolution noticeboard or a Request for Comments. If this is a conduct dispute, and I see warnings about ANI, take it to Arbitration Enforcement, which is quicker than ANI for issues that are within the scope of discretionary sanctions, and do not also file at DRN. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
A Third Opinion was requested ten days ago. Now moderated dispute resolution has been requested, but declined because there has been no recent discussion, and the discussion that there was largely involved conduct issues. Resume discussion on this talk page, or go to Arbitration Enforcement. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Brought here by an IP. This politician is known to have controversial views towards Palestinians, yet none of this is shown in the article. The undue argument holds no water here - this is an early stage article which editors are welcome to increase in all areas. The nature of his extremist views are widely reported, so should be in this article. Oncenawhile ( talk) 16:01, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes, unfortunately the IP is attempting to bring the entire anti-Israel posse here (they've pinged a load more above)... But anyway, as I've said repeatedly, the two problems here are (a) that the article would be extremely unbalanced with the section readded in its current form. Editors are more than welcome to expand the article in general in order to make it fit in. Secondly, I think it's quite clear that the editors who have added this material (and many of those who have turned up from the canvassing attempts) are doing so in order to disparage the subject – there does not seem to be any interest in improving the article beyond adding the material to it to suit their agendas on Wikipedia.
Pluto, this guy has been a minister for more than a decade; I'm sure there is plenty to write about him if anyone actually interested... Number 5 7 08:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Has anyone involved in this discussion thought to look at Hebrew Wikipedia? There is a substantial article there, with extensive details of his career. I don't have time this week, but if no-one else is able to use this material I will have I go when I complete my current work. RolandR ( talk) 15:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
The Anatomy of Human Rights in Israel: Constitutional Rhetoric and State Practice, Cambridge University Press, 2014 pp.126ff.
I don't see why material dealing with parts of his career for which he has been publicly criticized must be withheld until editors build up the article. That is highly unusual, and has no basis in policy.Actually it has a very clear basis in one of the most important policies – WP:BLP. Specifically (quoted from the policy): The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times. Number 5 7 16:20, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article – even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out.
Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz said (Heb) that Israel should engage in “targeted civil eliminations” of BDS leaders with the help of Israeli intelligence, intentionally using language that plays on the Hebrew term for “targeted assassinations.”(Mairav Zonszein, 'In Israel, BDS is winning,' +972 magazine 28 March, 2016);
Transportation Minister Israel Katz is known in Israel for his rather rude remarks. So when he explained, the day after the deadly attacks in Brussels, that "if the Belgians will continue to eat chocolate and enjoy their lives ... they will not be able to fight terror," his words passed almost unnoticed. Only after they were quoted and ridiculed in Western media did Israeli pundits criticize Katz for giving Israel a bad image abroad. Meron Rapoport, 'Israel seeks to exploit Brussels attacks as it did with 'war on terror',' Middle East Eye 28 March 2016)
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Should BLPs exclude critical content such as controversies and views sourced from coverage received in numerous reliable sources, if the article doesn't contain extensive general content about the subject? Or, does this violate WP:NOTCENSORED? Tanbircdq ( talk) 15:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
The idea expressed in WP:Eventualism – that every Wikipedia article is a work in progress, and that it is therefore okay for an article to be temporarily unbalanced because it will eventually be brought into shape – does not apply to biographies. Given their potential impact on biography subjects' lives, biographies must be fair to their subjects at all times.If the article was expanded to the extent that negative material did not account for such a large proportion, or the amount of negative material was reduced, then it would be acceptable. However, it's also clear that the editors trying to insert this material have no intention of helping improve the article, as they've had over six months to do so, yet are still only trying to insert this specific stuff. Number 5 7 22:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Note: Nominator of this invalid RFC -Tanbircdq- was blocked for sockpuppeting (and using IPs in this article that were also blocked for 1RR).
It is a BLP problem to have an attack style article - aside the fact of the bias and misrepresentation of sources. CaseeArt Talk 05:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
user 86.154.254.204 is repeatedly bringing in other selective users into the discussion. This is not allowed and please be aware of the rule before editing or stating your opinion on the talk page. There was also noted alleged sock-puppetry here. Caseeart ( talk) 02:59, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Semiprotected one year per WP:ARBPIA3#500/30. In real life, this minister is controversial due to his opinions on A/I conflict issues though that material is (at the moment) not in the article. Between April 21 and May 2 there was a war to add such material. EdJohnston ( talk) 13:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Had more time to look closely at the section in question, and was pretty stunned by what I saw. On the face of it, the material appeared well-sourced, but scratch a little under the surface, and I saw flimsy or outright poor quality sources backing material that would be outright libelous if it turned out to be untrue.
@ Nishidani: Some months ago a now blocked editor added several out-of-context or poorly-contexted quotes supposedly made by this politician, of the type, "On date, Katz said outrageous statement", and intended solely to present the subject in a unfavorable light. Some of the sources provided were of poor quality (one alleged quote - which would be libelous if untrue - was referenced to a publication by the far-left Green Left Weekly, and an opinion piece on Al Arabiya) - so WP:BLPREMOVE. The other two were sourced acceptably but simply didn't provide a fair representation of the subject's views on the matter he was commenting on. Or for that matter, the subject's views on anything; they were included only to denigrate the subject. AnotherNewAccount ( talk) 22:28, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Removed for BLP reasons. At least one quote was potentially libelous. The others treat the subject in a prejudiced manner in some way. See talk.
</In February 2016, in response to Israel Defense Forces (IDF) chief Gadi Eizenkot's statement regarding the military's rule of engagement during terror attacks, Katz wrote on his Facebook page, "The terrorists were captured alive. I hope that the statement against the automatic shooting of minors by the chief of staff, who I know and regard highly, was not wrongly interpreted and didn't lead to hesitation that put lives in danger. Sometimes the message is louder than the words. The codes of conduct and limitations are clear, but terrorists who attack Jews should not get out alive."[30][31]
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On mobile browsers it says "Israeli politician, MK for Likud and Minister of Transport" right after the title and the page issues link. He is also the minister of intelegence, but I have no clue how to edit it. - ולאד ( talk) 18:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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The Minister's first name spelled with I, not YI. Israel katz = ישראל כ"ץ
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– They spell their names differently. The current Minister (born 1955) is Israel Katz. The former Minister (born 1927) is Yisrael Katz. See here/ Thanks, Atbannett ( talk) 19:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 21:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
– Disambiguating these politicians using different rendering of their first names is entirely artificial. They both have the same actual first name (ישראל), and the former s refered to using the latter first name rendering in some sources (see https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/business/economy-finance/.premium-israel-s-new-finance-minister-may-be-the-bulldozer-we-need-1.8875075 for an example). Animal lover 666 ( talk) 17:14, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
There is no source for Katz's opposition to the two-state solution and the creation of a Palestinian state in any form, which he regards as unacceptable considering "our rights to this land". How about https://www.jpost.com/diplomacy-and-politics/housing-minister-says-ready-to-build-10000-homes-over-green-line-319453 82.11.163.59 ( talk) 17:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)