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A question about the list of movies that deal with Irish-American criminals - should "Boondock Saints" (1999) be on that list? It does not technically deal with Irish-American gangsters, but it does deal with Irish-American criminals and is in every way greener that the Emerald Isle. Just a thought. - Mario, 9 February 2006
Why is this under Irish mafia and not Irish mob, if that's what they're most commonly called? -- nae'blis (talk) 20:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be titled Irish mob. 69.218.181.192 03:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
This article is loaded with misinformation and nonsense. I have a suspicion it was written by a Brit. No one in the U.S. who knows what they're talking about refers to the Irish mob as the "Irish mafia." And Edward O'Neill as a popular member of The Westies? Who the hell is Edward O'Neill?? Check out wikipedia's own fine entry on the Westies (or the 400-pg book by T.J. English) and you will see no mention of anyone named Edward O'Neill.
Also... the K&A crew from Philly is NOT an Irish organized crime group and never has been. There were a few K&A members with vague Irish American heritage, but this does not make them part of the Irish mob. In the definitive book about Irish American gangsters, "Paddy Whacked" by T.J. English, this "gang" isn't even mentioned.
Also... biker gangs have no business being included in an entry that is supposed to be about the Irish mob.
All in all, this entry is below wikipedia standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelgabriel ( talk • contribs)
There is some utter nonsense in here... If I knew more about the Irish mob I'd fix the article, but then that's why I wanted to read the darn thing in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.195.245 ( talk) 03:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
The term Mafia is Italian and should not be used in connection with the Irish Mob. -- Juliannef 03:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, and I really have doubts about Melbourne's Irish Catholic working class being especially prone to organised crime. Some of my ancestors were in this group, and I have heard nothing to this effect. There is not even a stereotype. OK, maybe the Morans are Irish Catholics, but that is one (modern) family. Two of the most famous Melbourne gangsters, Snowy Cutmore and Squizzy Taylor, do not appear to have been Catholic. At least I can't find any evidence to that effect. As for the famous Ned Kelly, he was certainly an Irish Catholic, but so were many of the policemen he struggled with. 210.11.146.197 10:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC) (Julian O'Dea).
There is currently a debate to discuss moving the article title of Jewish-American organized crime to American Jews in organized crime. The reasoning for this move is to provide what has been refered a less offensive and accusatory title which applies to Talk:African-American organized crime and Talk:Greek-American organized crime.
One point which was brought up was the absence from a seperate article to differenciate between Irish-American organized crime and internationally (as with Italian-American organized crime and the Mafia). I know this has been discussed before, however the issue to split Mafia between its U.S. and international equivalants should be considered. MadMax 07:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that the Irish Mob Wars article be merged into this article. Said article has very little content, and can very easily be merged here, indeed, much of the information is simply repetition. There already exists a subsection about the Winter Hill Gang - Charlestown mob war in the '70s. The rest of the article involves internecine warfare amongst the Westies in New York. Once again, much of this is repetition, and the rest can be integrated easily. Any thoughts? If there is no objection, I will perform the merger later this week. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 01:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the Wiki page for The Departed it makes no reference to the Irish Mob, Whitey Bulger or otherwise. In fact it claims the movie was inspired from "Infernal Affairs" from Hong Kong.
So which is it? 72.70.80.98 ( talk) 23:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
The movie is a remake of Infernal Affairs (in ALL ways). It was not inspired by the real-life Irish Mob. In my opinion this should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.69.198.227 ( talk) 15:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
How about adding a Great Britain section:
The Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate The Noonans Tam McGraw Jimmy Moody Frankie Fraser Yeliab1 ( talk) 02:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Last night I tried to add the film What Doesn't Kill You, to the list. However, it was taken down shortly because RepublicanJacobite believed the article did no indicate it was about the Irish mob. I watched the film before hand and can attest. that every criminal character featured in it was Irish. The character of Pat Kelly was indeed a low level Southie mob boss. And the two main character were lowly hoods working for him. Can anyone else attest to this film being worthy? -- LokiHavok ( talk) 05:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
RepublicanJacobite...can you explain to my why the reference, and by extension the film isn't adequate/up to "your standards" enough to be included. By all meanw enlighten me that you seem to be an Irish Mob expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.166.76 ( talk) 04:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Doesn't the Irish Mob have a history of running guns for the IRA? Isn't this notable enough for the article? 76.237.237.40 ( talk) 00:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
"After Winter was convicted of fixing horse races in 1979 the leadership of the gang fell on James "Whitey" Bulger. Nee responded by relocating to Charlestown, Massachusetts and concentrating his energy on raising money and smuggling guns to the Provisional IRA. He has written that Bulger frequently urged him to cut his links to the IRA, saying that it was too great a risk for not enough profit.
However, Nee remained an occasional associate throughout the years and masterminded a 1984 attempt to smuggle seven tons of assault rifles to the IRA. With Bulger's assistance, the guns were loaded aboard the Valhalla, a fishing trawler from Gloucester, Massachusetts. However, British Intelligence learned of the scheme via an informant in the IRA's Kerry Brigade and the cargo was intercepted by a combined force of the Irish Navy and the Garda Síochána. The Valhalla's crew was arrested by U.S. Customs agents immediately after returning to Gloucester." 98.176.233.118 ( talk) 06:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Under "Recent years" there is a flawed sentence, "During the 1970s and 1980s, the FBI's Boston office was largely infiltrated through corrupt federal agent John J. Connolly, by which Whitey Bulger was able to use his status as a government informant against his rivals (the extent of which would not be revealed until the mid to late 1990s)." The problem is the part "the FBI's Boston office was largely infiltrated through corrupt federal agent John J. Connolly." I was personally heavily involved in exposing this corruption and while Connolly is a convicted killer and is certainly evil, he was just part of a long legacy of FBI corruption that included his predecessor, agent H. Paul Rico. Agent Rico originally developed these people as informants and protected the Winter Hill Gang. There is a great deal more here (See the report "Everything secret degenerates : the FBI's use of murderers as informants : third report," United States. Congress. House. Committee on Government Reform).
I suggest the following replacement to fix the sentence in question: During the 1970s and 1980s, agents from FBI's Boston office permitted Whitey Bulger to use his status as a government informant against his rivals (the extent of which would not be revealed until the mid to late 1990s)." This leaves the reader wondering how the FBI could have permitted this to happen without leading them to falsely believed that Connolly started all of this corruption. DS-survivor ( talk) 19:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)DS-survivor
The List of Irish American mobsters by era should be merged into the "Irish Mob" article. There is also a third article List of American mobsters of Irish descent which covers listing Irish American mobsters. -- Vic49 ( talk) 23:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
The Irish Mob is present in GTA IV. How come it cannot be mentioned on the page? Tom US A 03:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
According to the sidebar, and almost by definition, the Irish Mob has to have *some* activities in Ireland. I get that this is primarily about the US-based offshoots, and the Irish have other, perhaps newer crime organizations, but should there not be a section in the "Elsewhere" about any (US-based?) Irish Mob activities in Ireland?-- Tim Thomason 00:06, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
What exactly do you have a problem with Jacobite? You say the edit is garbage, that it's no good, but you say the reference/sources were fine. Both links said the same thing as the edits. Berkery did run a meth partnership with Ray Martorano, he was the first K&A gang member to run a noteworthy methamphetamine ring and is described as the leader of the gang. Before him there was no history of the NPM trafficking in meth. What more do you want? -- LokiHavok ( talk) 02:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: Fixed it.-- LokiHavok ( talk) 08:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
See subject header. The Javits is mentioned in Spillane and Coonan (I think) entries.
The center is famous throughout the world.
Some $ figures would be an extra treat.....
Shlishke ( talk) 04:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
The Irish Mob is one of the oldest organized crime groups in the United States, in existence since the early 19th century, lead today by the great-great granddaughter of the founder Catriona O'Kane.
On the face of it, this claim is absurd. Two hundred years have passed since the early 1800s ('early 19th century'). Using the rule of thumb that a new generation is produced roughly every twenty-five years, four generations are produced per century, and eight generations in two centuries. The great-great granddaughter of an ancestor is just four generations removed from that person, ie a hundred years. It's highly unlikely therefore that the great-great granddaughter of the reputed founder is still alive two hundred years after the time of the founder. Frankly, this sort of nonsense brings disrepute to Wikipedia. I note that the article is full of such unsupported and uncited claims. This article has the potential to be both interesting and informative but at the moment is little more than a collection of unsubstantiated urban legends. 124.186.93.5 ( talk) 07:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I've mentioned a lot of people asking for the subtopic Irish organized crime within Ireland in the article Irish Mob. I've created a subtopic like three times, always referring to articles outside wikipedia. Each time this subtopic gets removed because of overlinking, unreliable sources,.... Frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of this. Not only because there's a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of information within the article that doesn't even has references at all. Some information is even plain false. For example: the article claims that some of the criminal organizations in the American South are ethnically Irish and part of the Irish mob. The truth is that they're American Southerners to begin with (descended of Scotch-Irish people) and that they have nothing at all to do with the Irish mob. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. It pains me to see that the load of b******t stays in the article, while information with more credibility ( and most importantly: information readers are actively asking for) is systematically deleted. There are a load of topics I know nothing about, but believe me: if there's one thing I do know my stuff on it's on 'organized crime' ( yes, including Irish organized crime). I spend a lot of time researching everything on organized crime as well as talking to people with knowledge on the topic. Nonetheless, Irish organized crime within Europe is very active while the American 'Irish mob' is rather dormant (unlike what the article leads you to believe). But I guess some users and editors prefer incompetence and cinematic images over facts. Begbiepwns ( talk) 19:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Personally I would do it myself, but I barely have enough free time to help. But seriously there is a crucial thing missing on the Irish Mob page. And that is the Irish Mob in Ireland. Fortunately I've don a bit of research so I can point to some key figures. However I'm a slow typer and I just don't have time to write any of this, so I would be grateful if someone else did the writing. So here is the list
Dublin
And Many More
Limerick (More Street Gangs)
Some of these mobsters have their own page Another Interesting thign is "The suspect has been travelling regularly in the past few years between here and Spain, where he has close contacts among the Irish criminal community on the Costa del Sol." http://mafiatoday.com/tag/north-dublin/
Here are some documentaries as well http://m.natgeotv.com/uk/underworld-dublin-gangland
+ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkRrmFR9CIM + https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpXzAjIisGY + https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gt9CCAj5eY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.125.230 ( talk) 14:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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It really makes no sense for this article to have a section about Ireland. The Irish Mob is a term that originates in the US, to differentiate Irish criminal gangs from those of other ethnic groups. Is there any evidence this term is used in Ireland in the way it is in the US? It wouldn't make sense, since there would be no reason to refer to Irish gangsters as Irish within Ireland. A separate article on Irish organized crime would be the proper place for the information that is currently in this article. It is not appropriate here. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 11:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
I can’t seem to find proof in police reports of the Irish kings organized crime syndicate operating out of south Boston during the time period of 2013-16. Could someone please provide evidence of their existence by law enforcement or some authority?
this article is most importantly missing a general "History" section. great additions here would make significant improvements to the knowledge base of north american organized crime in close direct connection to Europe. Lord saturnus ( talk) 15:46, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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A question about the list of movies that deal with Irish-American criminals - should "Boondock Saints" (1999) be on that list? It does not technically deal with Irish-American gangsters, but it does deal with Irish-American criminals and is in every way greener that the Emerald Isle. Just a thought. - Mario, 9 February 2006
Why is this under Irish mafia and not Irish mob, if that's what they're most commonly called? -- nae'blis (talk) 20:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be titled Irish mob. 69.218.181.192 03:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
This article is loaded with misinformation and nonsense. I have a suspicion it was written by a Brit. No one in the U.S. who knows what they're talking about refers to the Irish mob as the "Irish mafia." And Edward O'Neill as a popular member of The Westies? Who the hell is Edward O'Neill?? Check out wikipedia's own fine entry on the Westies (or the 400-pg book by T.J. English) and you will see no mention of anyone named Edward O'Neill.
Also... the K&A crew from Philly is NOT an Irish organized crime group and never has been. There were a few K&A members with vague Irish American heritage, but this does not make them part of the Irish mob. In the definitive book about Irish American gangsters, "Paddy Whacked" by T.J. English, this "gang" isn't even mentioned.
Also... biker gangs have no business being included in an entry that is supposed to be about the Irish mob.
All in all, this entry is below wikipedia standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelgabriel ( talk • contribs)
There is some utter nonsense in here... If I knew more about the Irish mob I'd fix the article, but then that's why I wanted to read the darn thing in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.195.245 ( talk) 03:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
The term Mafia is Italian and should not be used in connection with the Irish Mob. -- Juliannef 03:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, and I really have doubts about Melbourne's Irish Catholic working class being especially prone to organised crime. Some of my ancestors were in this group, and I have heard nothing to this effect. There is not even a stereotype. OK, maybe the Morans are Irish Catholics, but that is one (modern) family. Two of the most famous Melbourne gangsters, Snowy Cutmore and Squizzy Taylor, do not appear to have been Catholic. At least I can't find any evidence to that effect. As for the famous Ned Kelly, he was certainly an Irish Catholic, but so were many of the policemen he struggled with. 210.11.146.197 10:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC) (Julian O'Dea).
There is currently a debate to discuss moving the article title of Jewish-American organized crime to American Jews in organized crime. The reasoning for this move is to provide what has been refered a less offensive and accusatory title which applies to Talk:African-American organized crime and Talk:Greek-American organized crime.
One point which was brought up was the absence from a seperate article to differenciate between Irish-American organized crime and internationally (as with Italian-American organized crime and the Mafia). I know this has been discussed before, however the issue to split Mafia between its U.S. and international equivalants should be considered. MadMax 07:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that the Irish Mob Wars article be merged into this article. Said article has very little content, and can very easily be merged here, indeed, much of the information is simply repetition. There already exists a subsection about the Winter Hill Gang - Charlestown mob war in the '70s. The rest of the article involves internecine warfare amongst the Westies in New York. Once again, much of this is repetition, and the rest can be integrated easily. Any thoughts? If there is no objection, I will perform the merger later this week. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 01:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the Wiki page for The Departed it makes no reference to the Irish Mob, Whitey Bulger or otherwise. In fact it claims the movie was inspired from "Infernal Affairs" from Hong Kong.
So which is it? 72.70.80.98 ( talk) 23:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
The movie is a remake of Infernal Affairs (in ALL ways). It was not inspired by the real-life Irish Mob. In my opinion this should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.69.198.227 ( talk) 15:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
How about adding a Great Britain section:
The Clerkenwell Crime Syndicate The Noonans Tam McGraw Jimmy Moody Frankie Fraser Yeliab1 ( talk) 02:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Last night I tried to add the film What Doesn't Kill You, to the list. However, it was taken down shortly because RepublicanJacobite believed the article did no indicate it was about the Irish mob. I watched the film before hand and can attest. that every criminal character featured in it was Irish. The character of Pat Kelly was indeed a low level Southie mob boss. And the two main character were lowly hoods working for him. Can anyone else attest to this film being worthy? -- LokiHavok ( talk) 05:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
RepublicanJacobite...can you explain to my why the reference, and by extension the film isn't adequate/up to "your standards" enough to be included. By all meanw enlighten me that you seem to be an Irish Mob expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.166.76 ( talk) 04:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Doesn't the Irish Mob have a history of running guns for the IRA? Isn't this notable enough for the article? 76.237.237.40 ( talk) 00:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
"After Winter was convicted of fixing horse races in 1979 the leadership of the gang fell on James "Whitey" Bulger. Nee responded by relocating to Charlestown, Massachusetts and concentrating his energy on raising money and smuggling guns to the Provisional IRA. He has written that Bulger frequently urged him to cut his links to the IRA, saying that it was too great a risk for not enough profit.
However, Nee remained an occasional associate throughout the years and masterminded a 1984 attempt to smuggle seven tons of assault rifles to the IRA. With Bulger's assistance, the guns were loaded aboard the Valhalla, a fishing trawler from Gloucester, Massachusetts. However, British Intelligence learned of the scheme via an informant in the IRA's Kerry Brigade and the cargo was intercepted by a combined force of the Irish Navy and the Garda Síochána. The Valhalla's crew was arrested by U.S. Customs agents immediately after returning to Gloucester." 98.176.233.118 ( talk) 06:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Under "Recent years" there is a flawed sentence, "During the 1970s and 1980s, the FBI's Boston office was largely infiltrated through corrupt federal agent John J. Connolly, by which Whitey Bulger was able to use his status as a government informant against his rivals (the extent of which would not be revealed until the mid to late 1990s)." The problem is the part "the FBI's Boston office was largely infiltrated through corrupt federal agent John J. Connolly." I was personally heavily involved in exposing this corruption and while Connolly is a convicted killer and is certainly evil, he was just part of a long legacy of FBI corruption that included his predecessor, agent H. Paul Rico. Agent Rico originally developed these people as informants and protected the Winter Hill Gang. There is a great deal more here (See the report "Everything secret degenerates : the FBI's use of murderers as informants : third report," United States. Congress. House. Committee on Government Reform).
I suggest the following replacement to fix the sentence in question: During the 1970s and 1980s, agents from FBI's Boston office permitted Whitey Bulger to use his status as a government informant against his rivals (the extent of which would not be revealed until the mid to late 1990s)." This leaves the reader wondering how the FBI could have permitted this to happen without leading them to falsely believed that Connolly started all of this corruption. DS-survivor ( talk) 19:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)DS-survivor
The List of Irish American mobsters by era should be merged into the "Irish Mob" article. There is also a third article List of American mobsters of Irish descent which covers listing Irish American mobsters. -- Vic49 ( talk) 23:29, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
The Irish Mob is present in GTA IV. How come it cannot be mentioned on the page? Tom US A 03:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
According to the sidebar, and almost by definition, the Irish Mob has to have *some* activities in Ireland. I get that this is primarily about the US-based offshoots, and the Irish have other, perhaps newer crime organizations, but should there not be a section in the "Elsewhere" about any (US-based?) Irish Mob activities in Ireland?-- Tim Thomason 00:06, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
What exactly do you have a problem with Jacobite? You say the edit is garbage, that it's no good, but you say the reference/sources were fine. Both links said the same thing as the edits. Berkery did run a meth partnership with Ray Martorano, he was the first K&A gang member to run a noteworthy methamphetamine ring and is described as the leader of the gang. Before him there was no history of the NPM trafficking in meth. What more do you want? -- LokiHavok ( talk) 02:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: Fixed it.-- LokiHavok ( talk) 08:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
See subject header. The Javits is mentioned in Spillane and Coonan (I think) entries.
The center is famous throughout the world.
Some $ figures would be an extra treat.....
Shlishke ( talk) 04:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
The Irish Mob is one of the oldest organized crime groups in the United States, in existence since the early 19th century, lead today by the great-great granddaughter of the founder Catriona O'Kane.
On the face of it, this claim is absurd. Two hundred years have passed since the early 1800s ('early 19th century'). Using the rule of thumb that a new generation is produced roughly every twenty-five years, four generations are produced per century, and eight generations in two centuries. The great-great granddaughter of an ancestor is just four generations removed from that person, ie a hundred years. It's highly unlikely therefore that the great-great granddaughter of the reputed founder is still alive two hundred years after the time of the founder. Frankly, this sort of nonsense brings disrepute to Wikipedia. I note that the article is full of such unsupported and uncited claims. This article has the potential to be both interesting and informative but at the moment is little more than a collection of unsubstantiated urban legends. 124.186.93.5 ( talk) 07:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
I've mentioned a lot of people asking for the subtopic Irish organized crime within Ireland in the article Irish Mob. I've created a subtopic like three times, always referring to articles outside wikipedia. Each time this subtopic gets removed because of overlinking, unreliable sources,.... Frankly, I'm getting a bit tired of this. Not only because there's a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of information within the article that doesn't even has references at all. Some information is even plain false. For example: the article claims that some of the criminal organizations in the American South are ethnically Irish and part of the Irish mob. The truth is that they're American Southerners to begin with (descended of Scotch-Irish people) and that they have nothing at all to do with the Irish mob. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. It pains me to see that the load of b******t stays in the article, while information with more credibility ( and most importantly: information readers are actively asking for) is systematically deleted. There are a load of topics I know nothing about, but believe me: if there's one thing I do know my stuff on it's on 'organized crime' ( yes, including Irish organized crime). I spend a lot of time researching everything on organized crime as well as talking to people with knowledge on the topic. Nonetheless, Irish organized crime within Europe is very active while the American 'Irish mob' is rather dormant (unlike what the article leads you to believe). But I guess some users and editors prefer incompetence and cinematic images over facts. Begbiepwns ( talk) 19:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Irish Mob's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Article":
Frank Moss, known for a generation to New Yorkers as a lawyer, reformer and vigorous enemy of the criminal elements of the city, died last night at his residence, 23 East l27th Street, of heart disease after an illness of several months.
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Personally I would do it myself, but I barely have enough free time to help. But seriously there is a crucial thing missing on the Irish Mob page. And that is the Irish Mob in Ireland. Fortunately I've don a bit of research so I can point to some key figures. However I'm a slow typer and I just don't have time to write any of this, so I would be grateful if someone else did the writing. So here is the list
Dublin
And Many More
Limerick (More Street Gangs)
Some of these mobsters have their own page Another Interesting thign is "The suspect has been travelling regularly in the past few years between here and Spain, where he has close contacts among the Irish criminal community on the Costa del Sol." http://mafiatoday.com/tag/north-dublin/
Here are some documentaries as well http://m.natgeotv.com/uk/underworld-dublin-gangland
+ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkRrmFR9CIM + https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpXzAjIisGY + https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gt9CCAj5eY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.125.230 ( talk) 14:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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It really makes no sense for this article to have a section about Ireland. The Irish Mob is a term that originates in the US, to differentiate Irish criminal gangs from those of other ethnic groups. Is there any evidence this term is used in Ireland in the way it is in the US? It wouldn't make sense, since there would be no reason to refer to Irish gangsters as Irish within Ireland. A separate article on Irish organized crime would be the proper place for the information that is currently in this article. It is not appropriate here. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 11:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
I can’t seem to find proof in police reports of the Irish kings organized crime syndicate operating out of south Boston during the time period of 2013-16. Could someone please provide evidence of their existence by law enforcement or some authority?
this article is most importantly missing a general "History" section. great additions here would make significant improvements to the knowledge base of north american organized crime in close direct connection to Europe. Lord saturnus ( talk) 15:46, 20 November 2022 (UTC)