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If and when the names of the participants become known to the media at large, this article should probably be moved.
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00:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
The starting paragraph is very much POV. The regime of Iran was "sympathetic" to the actress compared to similar cases. Apparently the Judiciary and the actress (as well as the public) are going to put the whole responsibility on the shoulder of the ex-boy friend of the actress. It seems that the ex-boy friend was to take revenge ... . Please do not edit the article with a POV tone even if you hate the Islamic regime of Iran. Some body made a porno movie about some body else and distributed it without permission in order to take revenge. This is illegal in any country. Instead of jumping into conclusion, we need to be patient to see what will come up in future. Then the article will be rewritten in an appropriate tone. Sangak 18:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd mention that user 84.208.201.99 sought out my livejournal and repeatedly flamed it based on my edits to this article (not to mention he/she keeps trying to blank it). I got a bunch of flames from 85.164.162.190 too, which I suspect is the same user at a different ISP. Not sure what to do about this decidedly uncivil behavior, but I figured I might as well make note of it anyway. Ford MF 21:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
//==Linking to the video== I was initially hesitant about this when someone initially posted it, but have become convinced of its soundness as Wiki material after consulting WP:Pornography. I don't see why I shouldn't consider blanking of this content--as it continually has been, from several (or perhaps one) anonymous users--as vandalism. Ford MF 16:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Please read WP:BLP. There is no reason to have the link, when the subject of the video vehemently denies it being of her. It seems likely that the whole thing is fake. Have some respect for human dignity, please.-- Jimbo Wales 16:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The porn movie is fake: * http://zahra-amirebrahimi.persianblog.com/ (in Persian)
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I'm not a muslim, I merely have some basic understanding of islam, but I thought that in islamic shari'a law, in order to have a conviction for adultery or fornication, you needed to have 4 witnesses present in person at the scene at the time it's happening. I'll add this to the article once it's been verified. -- Witchinghour 18:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed all the stuff about stoning since it's becoming (to me at least) more and more clear that the punishment is not applicable here. When I first started the article and no one in the west knew who the girl was, there was fairly frequent speculation about stoning as a penalty for adulterers, but now that it's been reasonably established that no adultery took place, I don't think it belongs in the article any more. I don't want it to become a pointless battleground.
Although I do want to point to Monfared, who originally posted that stoning had been "banned" in Iran, that that was only partially true, and slightly disingenuous. Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi instituted a moratorium on stoning, which is altogether less binding and permanent than "banning" would imply. Firstly, the penalty remains on the books, and the moratorium could be overturned at any time. Secondly, in May of this year two women were rumored to have been stoned to death in Iran, so the moratorium appears like it might be little more than lip service to foreign human rights advocates. Amnesty International says "might" and "alleged" a lot, but it's got a fairly detailed account of the alleged event. [1] Ford MF 20:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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If and when the names of the participants become known to the media at large, this article should probably be moved.
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00:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
The starting paragraph is very much POV. The regime of Iran was "sympathetic" to the actress compared to similar cases. Apparently the Judiciary and the actress (as well as the public) are going to put the whole responsibility on the shoulder of the ex-boy friend of the actress. It seems that the ex-boy friend was to take revenge ... . Please do not edit the article with a POV tone even if you hate the Islamic regime of Iran. Some body made a porno movie about some body else and distributed it without permission in order to take revenge. This is illegal in any country. Instead of jumping into conclusion, we need to be patient to see what will come up in future. Then the article will be rewritten in an appropriate tone. Sangak 18:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd mention that user 84.208.201.99 sought out my livejournal and repeatedly flamed it based on my edits to this article (not to mention he/she keeps trying to blank it). I got a bunch of flames from 85.164.162.190 too, which I suspect is the same user at a different ISP. Not sure what to do about this decidedly uncivil behavior, but I figured I might as well make note of it anyway. Ford MF 21:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
//==Linking to the video== I was initially hesitant about this when someone initially posted it, but have become convinced of its soundness as Wiki material after consulting WP:Pornography. I don't see why I shouldn't consider blanking of this content--as it continually has been, from several (or perhaps one) anonymous users--as vandalism. Ford MF 16:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Please read WP:BLP. There is no reason to have the link, when the subject of the video vehemently denies it being of her. It seems likely that the whole thing is fake. Have some respect for human dignity, please.-- Jimbo Wales 16:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The porn movie is fake: * http://zahra-amirebrahimi.persianblog.com/ (in Persian)
Dear Mr Fraud,or as you put it "fordmadoxfraud", You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge in IT and computers as well as people. You are advised to write about articles/people you have some knowledge..— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.133.121.12 ( talk) 18 December 2006
I'm not a muslim, I merely have some basic understanding of islam, but I thought that in islamic shari'a law, in order to have a conviction for adultery or fornication, you needed to have 4 witnesses present in person at the scene at the time it's happening. I'll add this to the article once it's been verified. -- Witchinghour 18:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed all the stuff about stoning since it's becoming (to me at least) more and more clear that the punishment is not applicable here. When I first started the article and no one in the west knew who the girl was, there was fairly frequent speculation about stoning as a penalty for adulterers, but now that it's been reasonably established that no adultery took place, I don't think it belongs in the article any more. I don't want it to become a pointless battleground.
Although I do want to point to Monfared, who originally posted that stoning had been "banned" in Iran, that that was only partially true, and slightly disingenuous. Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi instituted a moratorium on stoning, which is altogether less binding and permanent than "banning" would imply. Firstly, the penalty remains on the books, and the moratorium could be overturned at any time. Secondly, in May of this year two women were rumored to have been stoned to death in Iran, so the moratorium appears like it might be little more than lip service to foreign human rights advocates. Amnesty International says "might" and "alleged" a lot, but it's got a fairly detailed account of the alleged event. [1] Ford MF 20:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
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