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I've come across references to the Iranian plateau countless times, so I've decided to do some research on it. Gringo300 23:23, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Isn't the frequency of earthquakes unusually large in this region? It has been said that Tehran and other cities such as the recently quake hit Bam are at great risk for catastrophe. It might be good to mention this if it is true. – M0llusk 01:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
What is the Iranian Plateau in Plate Techtonics? Is it part of the Eurasian plate, or a smaller plate that impacted Eurasia, causing the uplift of neighboring mountains? Please add a section on this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.32.163.3 ( talk) 20:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
According to the map provided in the external link of this article [1], Kurdistan is not part of the Iranian plateau. Heja Helweda 02:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
The Iranian plateau is not a geological formation, but rather a set of tectonostratigraphic terranes accreted onto the Eurasian platform before the subduction, I think, of the Arabian plate. It's incredibly complex, as accretionary terranes tend to be. The Persian Gulf does not bound it to the south as the plateau is only the region north of the Zagros fault. Do you have some reference which actually puts "Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and small parts of Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan" in the Iranian plateau? Geologically they're part of a very different geophysical regime. Also, I believe the Main Zagros Thrust is bounded by the Straits of Hormuz in the east, the point separating the MZT and the Makran transfer zone, but I'm not sure about this--but this would exclude anything outside of Iran. The term is used also in the broader sense to refer to region of Southern Asia north of the Zagros/Markan, however, I believe that geophysical studies done in the past decade have shown clearly these regimes should be differentiated. I deleted much of the article, because of difficulties, like placing the Zagros mountains north and/or northwest of the Iranian plateau, when geologically they are the primary boundary to the south defined by motion of the Arabian plate--if you look at a geophysical map of Iran you can distinctly see the Zagros and the plateau to the north. Also do you have a source for the size of the area? I do have some references for the geology of the region, if you're interested, e-mail me, and I will be glad to forward some major pdfs that discuss the seismicity of the MZT. KP Botany 02:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
As stated on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran this article is about both the Iranian Plateau in a geological sense and in a geographical sense. That is what the introductory sentence was for, to alert the reader that both are covered in this article. Geography is not the same thing as geology, so please don't edit out geology, to replace it with geology. In geology, mountainous regions are not generally called plateaus, and the geographical and geological plateaus don't coincide. The Iranian plateau is extremely important geologically, and well studied as the Iranians are some of the world's leading geologists.
Also, someone added a non-neutral POV tag. If this has to do with geographical pursuits, please put the information on the talk page that this is what it is about and be explicit. Otherwise I will remove the tag. KP Botany 03:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe the numbers given are correct, my understanding is that the Iranian plateau covers a much larger area than what the article suggests. I'm not however an expert on this issue, so I'm requesting other Wikipedians to check the article for accuracy. -- Mardavich 06:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
What do these peaks have to do with the Iranian Plateau? KP Botany 23:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Again, when you post a tag part of it is to post on the talk page to explain exactly what you are calling for. An expert in what? Where does the expertise need to be applied?
Notice that this tag says you have posted the details on the talk page--you haven't.
If you want an expert to attend to this article please let them know why. If you don't know why, maybe it needs something else besides expertise, like expansion.
KP Botany 20:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The article is not very clear. The Iranian plateau is based in central Iran and is surrounded by several major mountain ranges including the Zagros. It does not include the province of Kurdistan, as it is a mountainous region, and the Iranian plateau, obviously, is flat. Atashparast 01:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
It is the job of the editors of the article, to add references when they add material. Adding a tag to notify the reader and editors that an article is unsourced does not require that the person placing the tag add sources. Please read this about "Tagging unsourced material:"
If an article has no or very few references, but you are unable to find them yourself, you can tag the article with the template {{ Unreferenced}}.
If a particular claim in an article lacks citation and is doubtful, consider placing {{ fact}} after the sentence or removing the claim. Consider the following in deciding which action to take:
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- If it is doubtful and harmful, you should remove it from the article; you may want to move it to the talk page and ask for a source, unless you regard it is as very harmful or absurd, in which case it should not be posted to a talk page either. Use your common sense. Do not be inappropriately cautious about removing unsourced material; it is better for Wikipedia to say nothing on an issue than to present false or misleading material.
I have reverted your edit for this reason, to have the tag catch the attention of people inserting unsourced, poorly sourced, or not definitively sources material in the article.
However, when this particular issue is dealt with, you should remove the tag, as this is the sole issue you have brought up on the talk page, the fact that Kurdistan is mountaineous, not a flat highland or plateau.
KP Botany 03:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
One of the maps, the blue and green one, is missing a graphic representation of the Caspian Sea. The area is shown green rather than blue. Bhammerstrom ( talk) 19:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Protected due to long-running edit warring. I see no one is discussing here or providing references relevant to the disputed west/central Asia bit. Have at it. Vsmith ( talk) 17:12, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Iranian Plateau → Iranian plateau – "Plateau" is not consistently capitalised in a substantial majority of independent reliable sources (per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. It isn't even consistently capitalised in the article. Cinderella157 ( talk) 10:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Please see this n-gram evidence. "Plateau" is lowercase in about 60% of sources. My move was contested (hence this RM). In this version it was not consistently capitalised in the article.
If a place belongs to a class, and the class is conventionally capitalized as part of the proper name of the place, then Wikipedia capitalizes that class name ...[emphasis added]. The guideline refers to capitalisation in a specific instance. We rely on sources to determine the capitalisation of an article. The guidance is telling us that. The sources are telling us to lowercase "plateau" in this case.
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![]() | On 11 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Iranian Plateau to Iranian plateau. The result of the discussion was moved. |
I've come across references to the Iranian plateau countless times, so I've decided to do some research on it. Gringo300 23:23, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Isn't the frequency of earthquakes unusually large in this region? It has been said that Tehran and other cities such as the recently quake hit Bam are at great risk for catastrophe. It might be good to mention this if it is true. – M0llusk 01:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
What is the Iranian Plateau in Plate Techtonics? Is it part of the Eurasian plate, or a smaller plate that impacted Eurasia, causing the uplift of neighboring mountains? Please add a section on this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.32.163.3 ( talk) 20:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
According to the map provided in the external link of this article [1], Kurdistan is not part of the Iranian plateau. Heja Helweda 02:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
The Iranian plateau is not a geological formation, but rather a set of tectonostratigraphic terranes accreted onto the Eurasian platform before the subduction, I think, of the Arabian plate. It's incredibly complex, as accretionary terranes tend to be. The Persian Gulf does not bound it to the south as the plateau is only the region north of the Zagros fault. Do you have some reference which actually puts "Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and small parts of Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan" in the Iranian plateau? Geologically they're part of a very different geophysical regime. Also, I believe the Main Zagros Thrust is bounded by the Straits of Hormuz in the east, the point separating the MZT and the Makran transfer zone, but I'm not sure about this--but this would exclude anything outside of Iran. The term is used also in the broader sense to refer to region of Southern Asia north of the Zagros/Markan, however, I believe that geophysical studies done in the past decade have shown clearly these regimes should be differentiated. I deleted much of the article, because of difficulties, like placing the Zagros mountains north and/or northwest of the Iranian plateau, when geologically they are the primary boundary to the south defined by motion of the Arabian plate--if you look at a geophysical map of Iran you can distinctly see the Zagros and the plateau to the north. Also do you have a source for the size of the area? I do have some references for the geology of the region, if you're interested, e-mail me, and I will be glad to forward some major pdfs that discuss the seismicity of the MZT. KP Botany 02:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
As stated on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran this article is about both the Iranian Plateau in a geological sense and in a geographical sense. That is what the introductory sentence was for, to alert the reader that both are covered in this article. Geography is not the same thing as geology, so please don't edit out geology, to replace it with geology. In geology, mountainous regions are not generally called plateaus, and the geographical and geological plateaus don't coincide. The Iranian plateau is extremely important geologically, and well studied as the Iranians are some of the world's leading geologists.
Also, someone added a non-neutral POV tag. If this has to do with geographical pursuits, please put the information on the talk page that this is what it is about and be explicit. Otherwise I will remove the tag. KP Botany 03:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe the numbers given are correct, my understanding is that the Iranian plateau covers a much larger area than what the article suggests. I'm not however an expert on this issue, so I'm requesting other Wikipedians to check the article for accuracy. -- Mardavich 06:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
What do these peaks have to do with the Iranian Plateau? KP Botany 23:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Again, when you post a tag part of it is to post on the talk page to explain exactly what you are calling for. An expert in what? Where does the expertise need to be applied?
Notice that this tag says you have posted the details on the talk page--you haven't.
If you want an expert to attend to this article please let them know why. If you don't know why, maybe it needs something else besides expertise, like expansion.
KP Botany 20:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The article is not very clear. The Iranian plateau is based in central Iran and is surrounded by several major mountain ranges including the Zagros. It does not include the province of Kurdistan, as it is a mountainous region, and the Iranian plateau, obviously, is flat. Atashparast 01:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
It is the job of the editors of the article, to add references when they add material. Adding a tag to notify the reader and editors that an article is unsourced does not require that the person placing the tag add sources. Please read this about "Tagging unsourced material:"
If an article has no or very few references, but you are unable to find them yourself, you can tag the article with the template {{ Unreferenced}}.
If a particular claim in an article lacks citation and is doubtful, consider placing {{ fact}} after the sentence or removing the claim. Consider the following in deciding which action to take:
- If it is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article, use the {{ fact}} tag to ask for source verification, but remember to go back and remove the claim if no source is produced within a reasonable time.
- If it is doubtful and harmful, you should remove it from the article; you may want to move it to the talk page and ask for a source, unless you regard it is as very harmful or absurd, in which case it should not be posted to a talk page either. Use your common sense. Do not be inappropriately cautious about removing unsourced material; it is better for Wikipedia to say nothing on an issue than to present false or misleading material.
I have reverted your edit for this reason, to have the tag catch the attention of people inserting unsourced, poorly sourced, or not definitively sources material in the article.
However, when this particular issue is dealt with, you should remove the tag, as this is the sole issue you have brought up on the talk page, the fact that Kurdistan is mountaineous, not a flat highland or plateau.
KP Botany 03:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
One of the maps, the blue and green one, is missing a graphic representation of the Caspian Sea. The area is shown green rather than blue. Bhammerstrom ( talk) 19:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Protected due to long-running edit warring. I see no one is discussing here or providing references relevant to the disputed west/central Asia bit. Have at it. Vsmith ( talk) 17:12, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 18:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Iranian Plateau → Iranian plateau – "Plateau" is not consistently capitalised in a substantial majority of independent reliable sources (per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. It isn't even consistently capitalised in the article. Cinderella157 ( talk) 10:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Please see this n-gram evidence. "Plateau" is lowercase in about 60% of sources. My move was contested (hence this RM). In this version it was not consistently capitalised in the article.
If a place belongs to a class, and the class is conventionally capitalized as part of the proper name of the place, then Wikipedia capitalizes that class name ...[emphasis added]. The guideline refers to capitalisation in a specific instance. We rely on sources to determine the capitalisation of an article. The guidance is telling us that. The sources are telling us to lowercase "plateau" in this case.