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I moved the page to "Iranian Armenians" because the previous title suggested that Armenians are foreigners who just live in Iran rather than actual Iranians. Hajji Piruz 19:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I corrected the passage. Armenians of Iran are not an "Iranian people" of Armenian descent." There is no evidence that they have an identity formulated this way. Capasitor ( talk) 03:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I moved the page to "Iranian Armenians" because there is nor Armenian having Iranian sDescendants. Yu hardly find Armenians who are married to Iranians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.95.121 ( talk) 21:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
No notice was placed here that this image has been nominated for deletion. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk / cont) 23:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
If people like Cher and the System of a Down Guy make the notable Iranian Armenian list then surely Andre Agassi should be there aswell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.117.233 ( talk) 17:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 11:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Armenian Iranians →
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precedent" or "grammatical rule" that ethnicity always comes first and citizenship second in these titles; this is just a convention of the high-immigration countries of the
New World, which only a minority of scholars or journalists use for ethnic groups in Iran or any other country in the
Old World. ---
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The article mentioned 300,000 Iranian Armenians exist but then someone edited it to 3,000,000. I checked the sources and they all say 300,000. Pouyakhani ( talk) 07:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I confirm this. The other incorrect estimates on other pages related to it should be adjusted as well, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_diaspora — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.203.230 ( talk) 00:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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What's the source for the distribution or demographic data in the Distribution section? Hovsepig ( talk) 03:34, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
I am reading the number 500,000 for the first time in my life. The highest number in scholarship is usually 250-300,000.
The sentence in the Wiki article reads:
"Shah Abbas relocated an estimated 500,000 Armenians from his Armenian lands during the Ottoman-Safavid War of 1603–1618[10] to an area of Isfahan called New Julfa, which was created to become an Armenian quarter, and to the villages surrounding Isfahan."
The given source is H. Nahavandi, Y. Bomati, Shah Abbas, empereur de Perse (1587–1629) (Perrin, Paris, 1998). However, looking up the source, there is no mention of this or any other number for the total deportations, the source simply says
"His first expedition resulted in the deportation of thousands of Armenians from the town of Julfa, situated on the Aras River, in Nakhichevan, to Isfahan. Resettled in a newly built suburb called New Julfa, these were allowed to conduct their own affairs under the control of the state while retaining their religion. Under the patronage of the shah, New Julfa grew into a town of some 30,000[...]
The usual estimate for the total number of ALL DEPORTATIONS of Armenians from the CAUCASUS (not just Julfa) is 250-300,000 (e.g. Herzig, referenced in this WIKI article!).
I strongly suggest changing that line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.133.8.114 ( talk) 03:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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I moved the page to "Iranian Armenians" because the previous title suggested that Armenians are foreigners who just live in Iran rather than actual Iranians. Hajji Piruz 19:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I corrected the passage. Armenians of Iran are not an "Iranian people" of Armenian descent." There is no evidence that they have an identity formulated this way. Capasitor ( talk) 03:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I moved the page to "Iranian Armenians" because there is nor Armenian having Iranian sDescendants. Yu hardly find Armenians who are married to Iranians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.35.95.121 ( talk) 21:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
No notice was placed here that this image has been nominated for deletion. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk / cont) 23:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
If people like Cher and the System of a Down Guy make the notable Iranian Armenian list then surely Andre Agassi should be there aswell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.117.233 ( talk) 17:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 11:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Armenian Iranians →
Iranian Armenians — Per
WP:NC(CN) and the convention of
Category:Ethnic groups in Iran. Proposed title has 3x the GBook hits and is preferred by both Iran's and Armenia's media; see below for detailed analysis. There is no "
precedent" or "grammatical rule" that ethnicity always comes first and citizenship second in these titles; this is just a convention of the high-immigration countries of the
New World, which only a minority of scholars or journalists use for ethnic groups in Iran or any other country in the
Old World. ---
cab (
talk) 06:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
The article mentioned 300,000 Iranian Armenians exist but then someone edited it to 3,000,000. I checked the sources and they all say 300,000. Pouyakhani ( talk) 07:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I confirm this. The other incorrect estimates on other pages related to it should be adjusted as well, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_diaspora — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.203.230 ( talk) 00:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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What's the source for the distribution or demographic data in the Distribution section? Hovsepig ( talk) 03:34, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
I am reading the number 500,000 for the first time in my life. The highest number in scholarship is usually 250-300,000.
The sentence in the Wiki article reads:
"Shah Abbas relocated an estimated 500,000 Armenians from his Armenian lands during the Ottoman-Safavid War of 1603–1618[10] to an area of Isfahan called New Julfa, which was created to become an Armenian quarter, and to the villages surrounding Isfahan."
The given source is H. Nahavandi, Y. Bomati, Shah Abbas, empereur de Perse (1587–1629) (Perrin, Paris, 1998). However, looking up the source, there is no mention of this or any other number for the total deportations, the source simply says
"His first expedition resulted in the deportation of thousands of Armenians from the town of Julfa, situated on the Aras River, in Nakhichevan, to Isfahan. Resettled in a newly built suburb called New Julfa, these were allowed to conduct their own affairs under the control of the state while retaining their religion. Under the patronage of the shah, New Julfa grew into a town of some 30,000[...]
The usual estimate for the total number of ALL DEPORTATIONS of Armenians from the CAUCASUS (not just Julfa) is 250-300,000 (e.g. Herzig, referenced in this WIKI article!).
I strongly suggest changing that line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.133.8.114 ( talk) 03:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)