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There seems to be some dispute over whether Kuwait and Qatar are members and should be included in the article. This article from "Forces Network" seems to make a pretty definitive statement, and is listed as the source in 2019–20 Persian Gulf crisis. I've never heard of the source before, and the website doesn't make clear what degree of editorial oversight there is, but I'm inclined to take this at face value. The reporter himself has worked for the BBC before.
Whatever we use should be consistent - the current dropdown menu says "9 states", but only lists 7. If there's consensus to include Kuwait & Qatar I'll update the map to match. Pinging @ Primdena: who added the countries, and @ Lcawte: who removed it. MarginalCost ( talk) 02:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
After a search, I think both have expressed wishes to join it but have not done so so far, with most articles saying they will join but not have confirmed if they joined it or not. Appreciate anyone who finds a source that confirms if they have truly joined in yet or not. Primdena ( talk) 15:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I think the article probably warrants some mention of Combined Task Force (CTF) Sentinel which, as far as I can tell, is the military command part of the IMSC? Not adding due to my lack of current understanding, but, here seems to be the original announcement for it. -- Lewis Cawte ( Talk) 23:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
https://www.imscsentinel.com/news/coalition-task-force-sentinel-change-of-command
BlueD954 ( talk) 09:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Pinging WikiCleanerMan and Lcawte to continue the conversation from the user talk page.
To address the category issue particularly, I strongly agree with Lewis that the current configuration is very much an example of WP:OVERCAT. I think a good guide would be to look at other alliances like NATO (which has reached Good Article status), which though it has more about 4x the members, has less categories than the current revision. That precedent would entail removing just about all of the bilateral relations cats, but keeping the more general "military relations of" categories. MarginalCost ( talk) 14:16, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Thinking out loud so to speak - we've got mixed definitions on formation date/founding members - as can be seen in the lead section vs the member's section.
Going back two links from ref#3, we get a few nations joining as early as mid-August. If we look at the formation "main article" which is a section of the Persian Gulf conflict page (which is out of date by way of missing Estonia), we can see the date on the 16th coincides with the Cardigan Bay meeting, and that would have the claims that I believe I made about founding members?
We should probably come to a consensus on what date/definition we're using and update either the lead or the infobox+members section accordingly. -- Lewis Cawte ( Talk) 16:22, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
See website.
2401:7400:4007:7793:BD2F:4578:5CA0:8C43 ( talk) 05:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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There seems to be some dispute over whether Kuwait and Qatar are members and should be included in the article. This article from "Forces Network" seems to make a pretty definitive statement, and is listed as the source in 2019–20 Persian Gulf crisis. I've never heard of the source before, and the website doesn't make clear what degree of editorial oversight there is, but I'm inclined to take this at face value. The reporter himself has worked for the BBC before.
Whatever we use should be consistent - the current dropdown menu says "9 states", but only lists 7. If there's consensus to include Kuwait & Qatar I'll update the map to match. Pinging @ Primdena: who added the countries, and @ Lcawte: who removed it. MarginalCost ( talk) 02:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
After a search, I think both have expressed wishes to join it but have not done so so far, with most articles saying they will join but not have confirmed if they joined it or not. Appreciate anyone who finds a source that confirms if they have truly joined in yet or not. Primdena ( talk) 15:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
I think the article probably warrants some mention of Combined Task Force (CTF) Sentinel which, as far as I can tell, is the military command part of the IMSC? Not adding due to my lack of current understanding, but, here seems to be the original announcement for it. -- Lewis Cawte ( Talk) 23:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
https://www.imscsentinel.com/news/coalition-task-force-sentinel-change-of-command
BlueD954 ( talk) 09:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Pinging WikiCleanerMan and Lcawte to continue the conversation from the user talk page.
To address the category issue particularly, I strongly agree with Lewis that the current configuration is very much an example of WP:OVERCAT. I think a good guide would be to look at other alliances like NATO (which has reached Good Article status), which though it has more about 4x the members, has less categories than the current revision. That precedent would entail removing just about all of the bilateral relations cats, but keeping the more general "military relations of" categories. MarginalCost ( talk) 14:16, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Thinking out loud so to speak - we've got mixed definitions on formation date/founding members - as can be seen in the lead section vs the member's section.
Going back two links from ref#3, we get a few nations joining as early as mid-August. If we look at the formation "main article" which is a section of the Persian Gulf conflict page (which is out of date by way of missing Estonia), we can see the date on the 16th coincides with the Cardigan Bay meeting, and that would have the claims that I believe I made about founding members?
We should probably come to a consensus on what date/definition we're using and update either the lead or the infobox+members section accordingly. -- Lewis Cawte ( Talk) 16:22, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
See website.
2401:7400:4007:7793:BD2F:4578:5CA0:8C43 ( talk) 05:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)