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Until April 2013, all the acronyms on the page were "IDAHO". All this was changed, quite regardless of context, to "IDAHOBIT". Which is patently a political/non-neutral move and, as such, violates Wikipedia's codes. Aside from this, the "IDAHOBIT" Committee does not exist. It is called the IDAHO Committee (and recognised as such by 15 governments and the United Nations!). Rather than just coming in and changing the acronyms all of a sudden - regardless of context! - how about reflecting variations in acronym use, internationally, by creating a sub-section entitled "Different Names for May 17 Mobilisations", which could then include referenced examples? I already reverted the acronyms once, on May 17 itself, explaining that probably less than 90% of the people who mobilise globally around the day call it IDAHOBIT. This was then reverted again! I do not wish to start an edit war.
In general, coverage re. transhobia, biphobia and intersex issues should be improved, to improve the quality of the article and to represent the relevance of May 17 for different communities, but changing the acronyms so that they are non-recognisable, factually wrong in many cases, and politically motivated is not going to achieve that, and it is not what wikipedia is for.
Whoever is contesting the acronyms, can we resolve this please?
But can we keep any discussion focussed on improving the quality of the article, as " Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject"
Thanks Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 18:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
By the way, I am quite happy to work to improve the quality of the article in general, just waiting on a response re. these issues/see if anyone else wants to collaborate. Thanks Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 15:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Id be happy to collaborate. I will expand on my comments later. Sport and politics ( talk) 23:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Great! :) Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 21:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
As this "later" hadn't happened for several months I restored the IDAHO form. It's the official abbreviation and if you don't like it, don't blame us at Wikipedia but the organization that chose it. 88.112.32.233 ( talk) 12:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Official according to who the people who promote only anti homophobia. This is more than anti-homophobia it is also anti-Biphobia and and anti-transphobia. IDAHO is an outdated bi and trans erause usage. Sport and politics ( talk) 18:58, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there again. I will be updating in the next couple of days, as we discussed earlier this year. To improve the article quality in general, and hopefully to resolve any further dispute over the day's naming. As I suggested on May 28, it would probably be best to rename the article 'The Global May 17 Commemorations' (and redirect appropriately) and to cover issues over naming in a new section 'Names for May 17'. That said, where appropriate (but in a minimalist way) edits will name the day the International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia - as it is widely recognised - as the article simply must be objective, rather than a space for disputes over the day's name - which should be directed elsewhere. The general focus of edits, however, will be on improving article quality and evidence, and updating information (as of August 2013, Louis-Georges Tin is no longer chairperson, etc.). I will also create a new page for the IDAHO Committee, as - I suggest - the day and the organisation are best not conflated. Just giving a heads up. Thanks. Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 18:26, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
In reference to this attempted change by @ Rapunzal Chick to explain why it was reverted.
Per the press release of the IDAHO committee and
ILGA as the organizers of IDAHOBIT, the day spelled out is called “International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia” per the
official website and they even put a special note about the name out. And more explicitly that “Intersexism” should not be used: Important note: Events around 17 May go by different names and acronyms, and that’s okay. The Committee who started working around the date back in 2004 currently uses IDAHOBIT, and will therefore use the hashtags #IDAHOBIT and #IDAHOBIT2024
Although we have seen the translation of the “I” as “intersexism,” this is a term considered to be vague and misleading. After consulting with Intersex organisations, we ask everyone to please refrain from using this term and use the term “intersexphobia” instead. Also note that the name of the Day does not currently include “intersexphobia,” as there is no global consensus among Intersex communities that this should be included in the remit of 17 May.
Raladic (
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15:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia and anything related to its purposes and tasks. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
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Until April 2013, all the acronyms on the page were "IDAHO". All this was changed, quite regardless of context, to "IDAHOBIT". Which is patently a political/non-neutral move and, as such, violates Wikipedia's codes. Aside from this, the "IDAHOBIT" Committee does not exist. It is called the IDAHO Committee (and recognised as such by 15 governments and the United Nations!). Rather than just coming in and changing the acronyms all of a sudden - regardless of context! - how about reflecting variations in acronym use, internationally, by creating a sub-section entitled "Different Names for May 17 Mobilisations", which could then include referenced examples? I already reverted the acronyms once, on May 17 itself, explaining that probably less than 90% of the people who mobilise globally around the day call it IDAHOBIT. This was then reverted again! I do not wish to start an edit war.
In general, coverage re. transhobia, biphobia and intersex issues should be improved, to improve the quality of the article and to represent the relevance of May 17 for different communities, but changing the acronyms so that they are non-recognisable, factually wrong in many cases, and politically motivated is not going to achieve that, and it is not what wikipedia is for.
Whoever is contesting the acronyms, can we resolve this please?
But can we keep any discussion focussed on improving the quality of the article, as " Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject"
Thanks Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 18:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
By the way, I am quite happy to work to improve the quality of the article in general, just waiting on a response re. these issues/see if anyone else wants to collaborate. Thanks Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 15:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Id be happy to collaborate. I will expand on my comments later. Sport and politics ( talk) 23:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Great! :) Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 21:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
As this "later" hadn't happened for several months I restored the IDAHO form. It's the official abbreviation and if you don't like it, don't blame us at Wikipedia but the organization that chose it. 88.112.32.233 ( talk) 12:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Official according to who the people who promote only anti homophobia. This is more than anti-homophobia it is also anti-Biphobia and and anti-transphobia. IDAHO is an outdated bi and trans erause usage. Sport and politics ( talk) 18:58, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi there again. I will be updating in the next couple of days, as we discussed earlier this year. To improve the article quality in general, and hopefully to resolve any further dispute over the day's naming. As I suggested on May 28, it would probably be best to rename the article 'The Global May 17 Commemorations' (and redirect appropriately) and to cover issues over naming in a new section 'Names for May 17'. That said, where appropriate (but in a minimalist way) edits will name the day the International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia - as it is widely recognised - as the article simply must be objective, rather than a space for disputes over the day's name - which should be directed elsewhere. The general focus of edits, however, will be on improving article quality and evidence, and updating information (as of August 2013, Louis-Georges Tin is no longer chairperson, etc.). I will also create a new page for the IDAHO Committee, as - I suggest - the day and the organisation are best not conflated. Just giving a heads up. Thanks. Lookatyougo2 ( talk) 18:26, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
In reference to this attempted change by @ Rapunzal Chick to explain why it was reverted.
Per the press release of the IDAHO committee and
ILGA as the organizers of IDAHOBIT, the day spelled out is called “International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia” per the
official website and they even put a special note about the name out. And more explicitly that “Intersexism” should not be used: Important note: Events around 17 May go by different names and acronyms, and that’s okay. The Committee who started working around the date back in 2004 currently uses IDAHOBIT, and will therefore use the hashtags #IDAHOBIT and #IDAHOBIT2024
Although we have seen the translation of the “I” as “intersexism,” this is a term considered to be vague and misleading. After consulting with Intersex organisations, we ask everyone to please refrain from using this term and use the term “intersexphobia” instead. Also note that the name of the Day does not currently include “intersexphobia,” as there is no global consensus among Intersex communities that this should be included in the remit of 17 May.
Raladic (
talk)
15:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)