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Why is it called "Infogrames" Why not -games, since they make games? It's always bothered me. Anyone know?
I have taken this out. It's nonsense. It would be a lot better if you improved the article in a meaningful way - perhaps you could add something about the history of the company. As it stands the article describes the company's founding, and it tells us how to pronounce its name. But there is almost nothing about what the company did after 1983. How many games did it release? Were any of them famous? How did it go from obscurity to being one of the world's largest producers of computer games? Why did it adopt the Atari name? Where did they get the money from? How is the company thought of in France? 85.210.184.79 15:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Added more info on the Atari name change, I just grabbed the sentence from the Atari wiki. Page could do with some more info and a bit of a clean-up.-- BrotherEstapol 15:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does Infogrames still have that Armadillo logo? Yes, they do. If you go to Infogrames.com, it is on top of their page.
Firstly I see in the opening sentence that "Infogrames Entertainment SA (IESA) was an international holding company", why the was? doesn't Infogrames still exist?
Anyway secondly, if you look at allot of their recent games, the company calls itself "Infogrames Interactive", in this article it's being called "Infogrames Entertainment" and it used to appear on games as just "Infogrames", so what is the explanation or the significance of the apparently changing name(s)? -- Hibernian 07:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
The founders wanted to christen the company Zboub Système.
Just for info: Zboub means dicks in Moroccan Arabic... If someone wants to make sure that the statement is correct... Zouavman Le Zouave ( Talk to me! • O)))) 16:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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IMO those are the issues:
The Infogrames web site says repeatedly that Infogrames Entertaiment SA is a holding company acting as a parent company to Atari Group. And Atari Inc is not an entity is a a Nasdaq listed company http://corporate.infogrames.com/infogramesgb/2007/04/atari.php http://corporate.infogrames.com/MT-3.34-en/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/DOCDEREF05_06GB.pdf page 9 The infogrames web site doesn't mention, Atari interactive or changes in the ownership of Atari.
The Atari article that says that Atari Interactive is now owner of Atai Group is unsourced. I am not trying to create trouble, I am simply copying documents I find on Google, so if a better souce is found I have no problems in erasing what I've just wrote.
WOW! Fantastic!! That's a wealth of information and sources. You have no idea how much I googled for information pertaining Infogrames, it will take a while for me to digest the information but still, the links will be very useful. I need to google no more :)
Why didn't you use the links??? EconomistBR 05:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I also thought about reverting the edit, but his edit is correct. Infogrames' logo is a fictional armadillo, that's a fact, I checked on Google.
IMO including Infogrames on the category: Fictional Armadillo is silly and quite dumb, but we must never allow ourselves to judge the merit of information.
Therefore the category: Fictional armadillo should stay, because it's not our job to judge the worth of information. EconomistBR 03:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
It seems silly to me too, but...ya never know, there might be armadillo aficionados out there who might want to look up references to armadillos in popular culture. Isn't there a comic book out there with an armadillo as thje main character? and who knows what else..... Disney character? its the mascot of at least one university i think....
Alienburrito ( talk) 03:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
In the "1996-2002 Growth Through Acquisition" section, sudeenly the references switch from Infogrammes to IESA. WHy? That needs to be explained. Did the company change their name? Get bought out by someone? buy a bunch of companies and reorganize them under a shell holding company? did one of the article authors just mess up?
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Just a heads up, Gardner's talking about changing IESA to an Atari name now as well. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 17:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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As IESA is now known as Atari SA, should we keep this entry and start a new one for the new Atari? Modify the existing Atari entry? Or edit this one to reflect the change in name? Sslaxx ( talk) 18:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I think Inforgames is officially Atari Group. From their company overview page (corperate.atari.com) "Atari (ex-Infogrames Entertainement) is listed on the Euronext market, compartment C (ISIN code: FR0010478248, ticker: ATA)". They have removed or renamed all refernces to Inforgrames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.44.235 ( talk) 19:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, now that we're pretty sure that the Infogrames name no longer exists, shall we rename this page ? Hell Pé ( talk) 19:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
This new section I've created doesn't mean that Marty Goldberg's observations were ignored or pushed aside. This section is in preparation for the change that will occur when consensus is established.
IMO the article right now lacks coherence and it would seem abrupt to simply add the defunct company infobox without making changes to the language and without adding information.
The information to be added will give a factual justification to the change that will be made a later date. EconomistBR 17:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
This link has website links of Atari's offices around the world, some of those are now redirecting to Namco Bandai. Does that mean that those offices were sold off? EconomistBR 21:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Guys, you're reading the satements to literally, when they say "Change to Atari" they're talking about an Atari branded name. As the carification on their own corporate legal page states: "The term 'Atari' refers to the many companies, joint ventures and bodies related to Atari and upon which it exercises actual control, either directly or indirectly." It would be impossible to just have it called "Atari", that's not how it works, it's always "Atari" with some legal corporate suffix attached. That's why Atari S.A. appears to be the front runner. Most of that stuff just stating "Atari" is simply older transitory material until the full name was decided, or simply refering to the brand itself. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 22:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
With Namco Bandai having brought Atari Europe as well as Distribution Partners, does this include Eden Games? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sslaxx ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Evidence:
Given the present inexistence of evidence showing that Atari SA still has offices and/or operations in Europe outside London and Paris and given the above evidence it would be acceptable and safe to state that although inconclusive accumulated evidence indicates that all of Atari's offices and/or operations in the PAL region were sold to Namco Brandai either during the Atari Europe buyout or during Distribution Partners buyout. EconomistBR 23:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, what it's looking like so far then is this, let me know what you guys think:
That would make sense then with the confusion and usage of both Atari SA and Atari Group in the press releases. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 21:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Nothing's been done since August regarding what to do with this page. http://corporate.atari.com/MT-3.34-en/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/Anthony_Jacobson_and_Pierre_Hintze_Hire_Release_FINAL_100709_GB.pdf this document among others refer to Atari SA; by now it's clear that this is the new name for Infogrames. So: do we rename this page or create an entirely new entry for Atari SA? Sslaxx ( talk) 12:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Is it supposed to say "keys drivers"? 134.241.100.250 ( talk) 13:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I have lost the game chart depicting advances. Can it be replaced ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.228.27.46 ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
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Why is it called "Infogrames" Why not -games, since they make games? It's always bothered me. Anyone know?
I have taken this out. It's nonsense. It would be a lot better if you improved the article in a meaningful way - perhaps you could add something about the history of the company. As it stands the article describes the company's founding, and it tells us how to pronounce its name. But there is almost nothing about what the company did after 1983. How many games did it release? Were any of them famous? How did it go from obscurity to being one of the world's largest producers of computer games? Why did it adopt the Atari name? Where did they get the money from? How is the company thought of in France? 85.210.184.79 15:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Added more info on the Atari name change, I just grabbed the sentence from the Atari wiki. Page could do with some more info and a bit of a clean-up.-- BrotherEstapol 15:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Does Infogrames still have that Armadillo logo? Yes, they do. If you go to Infogrames.com, it is on top of their page.
Firstly I see in the opening sentence that "Infogrames Entertainment SA (IESA) was an international holding company", why the was? doesn't Infogrames still exist?
Anyway secondly, if you look at allot of their recent games, the company calls itself "Infogrames Interactive", in this article it's being called "Infogrames Entertainment" and it used to appear on games as just "Infogrames", so what is the explanation or the significance of the apparently changing name(s)? -- Hibernian 07:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
The founders wanted to christen the company Zboub Système.
Just for info: Zboub means dicks in Moroccan Arabic... If someone wants to make sure that the statement is correct... Zouavman Le Zouave ( Talk to me! • O)))) 16:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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IMO those are the issues:
The Infogrames web site says repeatedly that Infogrames Entertaiment SA is a holding company acting as a parent company to Atari Group. And Atari Inc is not an entity is a a Nasdaq listed company http://corporate.infogrames.com/infogramesgb/2007/04/atari.php http://corporate.infogrames.com/MT-3.34-en/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/DOCDEREF05_06GB.pdf page 9 The infogrames web site doesn't mention, Atari interactive or changes in the ownership of Atari.
The Atari article that says that Atari Interactive is now owner of Atai Group is unsourced. I am not trying to create trouble, I am simply copying documents I find on Google, so if a better souce is found I have no problems in erasing what I've just wrote.
WOW! Fantastic!! That's a wealth of information and sources. You have no idea how much I googled for information pertaining Infogrames, it will take a while for me to digest the information but still, the links will be very useful. I need to google no more :)
Why didn't you use the links??? EconomistBR 05:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I also thought about reverting the edit, but his edit is correct. Infogrames' logo is a fictional armadillo, that's a fact, I checked on Google.
IMO including Infogrames on the category: Fictional Armadillo is silly and quite dumb, but we must never allow ourselves to judge the merit of information.
Therefore the category: Fictional armadillo should stay, because it's not our job to judge the worth of information. EconomistBR 03:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
It seems silly to me too, but...ya never know, there might be armadillo aficionados out there who might want to look up references to armadillos in popular culture. Isn't there a comic book out there with an armadillo as thje main character? and who knows what else..... Disney character? its the mascot of at least one university i think....
Alienburrito ( talk) 03:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
In the "1996-2002 Growth Through Acquisition" section, sudeenly the references switch from Infogrammes to IESA. WHy? That needs to be explained. Did the company change their name? Get bought out by someone? buy a bunch of companies and reorganize them under a shell holding company? did one of the article authors just mess up?
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Just a heads up, Gardner's talking about changing IESA to an Atari name now as well. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 17:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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As IESA is now known as Atari SA, should we keep this entry and start a new one for the new Atari? Modify the existing Atari entry? Or edit this one to reflect the change in name? Sslaxx ( talk) 18:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
I think Inforgames is officially Atari Group. From their company overview page (corperate.atari.com) "Atari (ex-Infogrames Entertainement) is listed on the Euronext market, compartment C (ISIN code: FR0010478248, ticker: ATA)". They have removed or renamed all refernces to Inforgrames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.44.235 ( talk) 19:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, now that we're pretty sure that the Infogrames name no longer exists, shall we rename this page ? Hell Pé ( talk) 19:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
This new section I've created doesn't mean that Marty Goldberg's observations were ignored or pushed aside. This section is in preparation for the change that will occur when consensus is established.
IMO the article right now lacks coherence and it would seem abrupt to simply add the defunct company infobox without making changes to the language and without adding information.
The information to be added will give a factual justification to the change that will be made a later date. EconomistBR 17:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
This link has website links of Atari's offices around the world, some of those are now redirecting to Namco Bandai. Does that mean that those offices were sold off? EconomistBR 21:25, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Guys, you're reading the satements to literally, when they say "Change to Atari" they're talking about an Atari branded name. As the carification on their own corporate legal page states: "The term 'Atari' refers to the many companies, joint ventures and bodies related to Atari and upon which it exercises actual control, either directly or indirectly." It would be impossible to just have it called "Atari", that's not how it works, it's always "Atari" with some legal corporate suffix attached. That's why Atari S.A. appears to be the front runner. Most of that stuff just stating "Atari" is simply older transitory material until the full name was decided, or simply refering to the brand itself. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 22:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
With Namco Bandai having brought Atari Europe as well as Distribution Partners, does this include Eden Games? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sslaxx ( talk • contribs) 16:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Evidence:
Given the present inexistence of evidence showing that Atari SA still has offices and/or operations in Europe outside London and Paris and given the above evidence it would be acceptable and safe to state that although inconclusive accumulated evidence indicates that all of Atari's offices and/or operations in the PAL region were sold to Namco Brandai either during the Atari Europe buyout or during Distribution Partners buyout. EconomistBR 23:56, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok, what it's looking like so far then is this, let me know what you guys think:
That would make sense then with the confusion and usage of both Atari SA and Atari Group in the press releases. -- Marty Goldberg ( talk) 21:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Nothing's been done since August regarding what to do with this page. http://corporate.atari.com/MT-3.34-en/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/Anthony_Jacobson_and_Pierre_Hintze_Hire_Release_FINAL_100709_GB.pdf this document among others refer to Atari SA; by now it's clear that this is the new name for Infogrames. So: do we rename this page or create an entirely new entry for Atari SA? Sslaxx ( talk) 12:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Is it supposed to say "keys drivers"? 134.241.100.250 ( talk) 13:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I have lost the game chart depicting advances. Can it be replaced ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.228.27.46 ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Per WP:NCCORP the legal status suffix of a company is not normally included in the article title, unless disambiguation of the name is required. In this case, the multiple "Infogrames" divisions are all covered under the parent article, with some exceptions – e.g. Infogrames Australia, Infogrames Melbourne House and Infogrames, Inc., which all redirect elsewhere. wbm1058 ( talk) 13:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Infogrames Entertainment, SA →
Infogrames – Common name, very long name. Also you should not use "SA" or "Inc." in articles.
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