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Wikireader41 (
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16:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)reply
You need to clear your concept of vandalism. It is
not civil to accuse of vandalism to bold edits or explained edits. Since you repeatedly say that the article is 'underconstruction' adding to the lead is not incorrect and neither did you move it to the body, you deleted it! We have dedicated articles for that content and is not personal commentary. --
lTopGunl (
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16:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)reply
please read the requirements of
WP:RS,
WP:LEAD and
WP:V. I deleted it because it is an inaccurate POV , unsourced statement which was not discussed in the body of article at all. I have no problems adding any info if it is appropriately sourced. if it is just a personal perception then it does not belong on wikipedia. many people believe that Indophobia was the cause of partition rather than its result. But it can still be part of the body of the article if it can be sourced to a RS and not just the
Madrasah Times ;-)--
Wikireader41 (
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21:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
A bare assertion of POV by User:Sarmasd does not make it true. Kindly identify the issues and list them on talk page for discussion before the extreme case of deletion/merger is to be carried out. This is in advance notice of removal of non-Neutrality tag and Too few points of view tag if issues are not identified and listed for discussion.
AshLin (
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18:10, 19 December 2011 (UTC)reply
This article in general narrates only one school of thought. I will like to mention some of my concerns
No mention of Hindu-Muslim riots of 1946. (Jaswant Singh mentioned it in his book as one of the reasons of separation) Ref not available with me but generic case already mentioned. So Done.
AshLin (
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05:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Like in origin you didn't mention Imran Khan telling one of the reasons of the origin "I grew up hating India because I grew up in Lahore and there were massacres of 1947......". DoneAshLin (
talk)
06:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)reply
There is no mention of India's involvement in East Pakistan, Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as one of the origins of Indophobia in Pakistan (
Source).
Not really, because most of this article represents only one side of view while grossly ignoring many other alternative factors, such as an in-depth discussion of the Partition of
India itself and its causes/origins. The Imran Khan quote is just one example of that. You've used only authors and people (and quotes) who seem to fit the one type of school of thought that you're trying to imply and construct in the article and at the same time conveniently skipping out other huge bits (such as the
2007 Samjhauta Express bombings, a terrorist attack largely blamed on Hindu fundamentalist groups or the Kashmir conflict) which contribute to Indophobia. In
Wikipediastan, we call this
cherry-picking.
Mar4d (
talk)
04:40, 20 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Mar4d be
WP:BOLD and add that info if you can find RS to state that those issues are a cause of Indophobia. if you can find other views on the causes of Indop[hobia you are welcome to add them remebering to give them
WP:DUE weight only. Like I mentioned the views presented include those of several prominent Pakistani citizens. Just because somebody does not like what Haqqani or Cowasjee say does not mean that it is the "Indian view". This kind of closed minded Indophobia is exactly what this article is about. So instead of ranting go find some RS and contribute to making the article better.--
Wikireader41 (
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05:06, 22 December 2011 (UTC)reply
This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Pakistan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Pakistan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PakistanWikipedia:WikiProject PakistanTemplate:WikiProject PakistanPakistan articles
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India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia articles
Please refrain from adding your personal commentary to the article. you are welcome to add sourced info per
WP:V and
WP:RS. Lead is a summary of the article. do not add info to lead which is not present in more detail in the body of the article.--
Wikireader41 (
talk)
16:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)reply
You need to clear your concept of vandalism. It is
not civil to accuse of vandalism to bold edits or explained edits. Since you repeatedly say that the article is 'underconstruction' adding to the lead is not incorrect and neither did you move it to the body, you deleted it! We have dedicated articles for that content and is not personal commentary. --
lTopGunl (
talk)
16:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)reply
please read the requirements of
WP:RS,
WP:LEAD and
WP:V. I deleted it because it is an inaccurate POV , unsourced statement which was not discussed in the body of article at all. I have no problems adding any info if it is appropriately sourced. if it is just a personal perception then it does not belong on wikipedia. many people believe that Indophobia was the cause of partition rather than its result. But it can still be part of the body of the article if it can be sourced to a RS and not just the
Madrasah Times ;-)--
Wikireader41 (
talk)
21:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)reply
A bare assertion of POV by User:Sarmasd does not make it true. Kindly identify the issues and list them on talk page for discussion before the extreme case of deletion/merger is to be carried out. This is in advance notice of removal of non-Neutrality tag and Too few points of view tag if issues are not identified and listed for discussion.
AshLin (
talk)
18:10, 19 December 2011 (UTC)reply
This article in general narrates only one school of thought. I will like to mention some of my concerns
No mention of Hindu-Muslim riots of 1946. (Jaswant Singh mentioned it in his book as one of the reasons of separation) Ref not available with me but generic case already mentioned. So Done.
AshLin (
talk)
05:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Like in origin you didn't mention Imran Khan telling one of the reasons of the origin "I grew up hating India because I grew up in Lahore and there were massacres of 1947......". DoneAshLin (
talk)
06:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)reply
There is no mention of India's involvement in East Pakistan, Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as one of the origins of Indophobia in Pakistan (
Source).
Not really, because most of this article represents only one side of view while grossly ignoring many other alternative factors, such as an in-depth discussion of the Partition of
India itself and its causes/origins. The Imran Khan quote is just one example of that. You've used only authors and people (and quotes) who seem to fit the one type of school of thought that you're trying to imply and construct in the article and at the same time conveniently skipping out other huge bits (such as the
2007 Samjhauta Express bombings, a terrorist attack largely blamed on Hindu fundamentalist groups or the Kashmir conflict) which contribute to Indophobia. In
Wikipediastan, we call this
cherry-picking.
Mar4d (
talk)
04:40, 20 December 2011 (UTC)reply
Mar4d be
WP:BOLD and add that info if you can find RS to state that those issues are a cause of Indophobia. if you can find other views on the causes of Indop[hobia you are welcome to add them remebering to give them
WP:DUE weight only. Like I mentioned the views presented include those of several prominent Pakistani citizens. Just because somebody does not like what Haqqani or Cowasjee say does not mean that it is the "Indian view". This kind of closed minded Indophobia is exactly what this article is about. So instead of ranting go find some RS and contribute to making the article better.--
Wikireader41 (
talk)
05:06, 22 December 2011 (UTC)reply