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There is a small painting on the first floor that has a group of ladies in a shop looking at paintings that are all based on works by the same artist. Does anyone know what the artists and title of this painting are? I can't find it on the website, and I no longer live in the area to see for myself. -- Scottandrewhutchins 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This event is scheduled for February, but preparations should start sooner. I suggest if you want to participate you folks form an ad-hoc committee and get in touch with the museum people. Thanks.-- Pharos ( talk) 01:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I propose splitting out the section on Oldfields to a separate article. It is NRHP-listed and further is a U.S. National Historic Landmark and there is extensive documentation available to expand the material. Currently Oldfields redirects to the "Indanapolis Museum of Art". Readers arriving from clicking on links to Oldfields currently find themselves without explanation at IMA article, which has no upfront mention of the NRHP / NHL. doncram ( talk) 23:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
This article was recently overhauled. Any thoughts are welcome. I will state that I updated certain portions that were recently cut down significantly, due to the fact that some edits altered the meaning of the sentence ( diff) or removed pertinent information ( diff) & ( diff). I do want to make sure that these edits are neutral, and understand that my original phrasing may not have been. Once again, thoughts are welcome and I appreciate the dialogue! HstryQT ( talk) 01:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I added the latitude and longitude to the info box - could someone who knows how add a Geohack tag? Or I'll figure it out at some point. - PKM ( talk) 02:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Max Anderson is no longer the CEO of the IMA. He has now at the Dallas Museum of Art. [1] [2] [3] Sarah ( talk) 16:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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I believe it is time to change the name of this article to "Newfields". Newfields is the name used for the website, the large sign at the intersection of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, and is how the specific place is referred to as in most articles
The beginning sentence would now read:
Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), an encyclopedic art museum. It is located at the the corner of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. Newfields also houses the Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more.
I was hoping to make sure there is no large objections to this move.
Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more. It is located at the the corner of North Michigan Road and West 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. There are exhibitions, classes, tours, and events, many of which change seasonally. The entire campus was previously referred to as the Indianapolis Museum of Art, but in 2017 the campus and organization were renamed to "Newfields" to better reflect the breadth of offerings and venues. The "Indianapolis Museum of Art" now specifically refers to the main art museum building, as well as the legal name of the organization doing business as Newfields. [1]
I have largely updated the article to include Newfields where it is needed. As there haven't been any follow ups by the one dissent (albeit no other supporters either), I'm going to go ahead and request a move for the article today.
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On October 2, 2019, a copyright violation notice was incorrectly brought against Draft:Newfields, claiming the text was copied from here. The draft for Newfields was copied from the Indianapolis Museum of Art as discussed here. I looked back at the latest revision before the article in question was published on 3/23/2016, and found that the Wikipedia text predates the ArchiTravel article . In fact, the text was first introduced in 2011 with this edit that completely overhauled the article. Please note that there was no copyright violation on my or anyone on Wikipedia's part in this instance and make sure the current version of the text in question goes undeleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerebral726 ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 18:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Indianapolis Museum of Art →
Newfields – Newfields is the name used for the website, the large sign at the intersection of N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, and is how the specific place is referred to as
in
recent
articles Also, looking at
their tax returns we can see that "Indianapolis Museum of Art" is still the legal name of the company, and they are
d/b/a Newfields. This indicates this is a
WP:NAMECHANGES, not just a new name for the entire complex. The organization has changed its name, even if the IMA is still the name for the museum proper.
Cerebral726 (
talk)
14:16, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- this article is about the Indianapolis Museum of Art, not the Beer Garden. Newfields could, perhaps should, have its own article, as other broader sites do - Berlin State Museums for example. Two of the other attractions there already have their own articles. You need to add this to the Newfield disam page. Johnbod ( talk) 16:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)*Indianapolis Museum of Art 11 AM - 5 PM
- Lilly House 11 AM - 5 PM
- Beer Garden 11 AM - 5 PM
- The Garden 11 AM - 5 PM
- Fairbanks Park sunrise - sunset
- Miller House & Gardens Open for tours - Closed on Mondays
- The Museum & Garden Shop 11 AM - 5 PM
- The Cafe 11 AM - 5 PM
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus that the current title is still the name of the museum and as such the most suitable title. ( non-admin closure) Turnagra ( talk) 19:13, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Indianapolis Museum of Art → Newfields – Some condensed background from the article: The Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA) is an art museum located at Newfields, a 152-acre (62 ha) campus that has several components (the art museum, gardens, historic mansion, etc.). The institution was founded in 1883 as the Art Association of Indianapolis and the first permanent museum was opened in 1906 as part of the John Herron Art Institute. In 1969, the Art Association of Indianapolis changed its name to the Indianapolis Museum of Art, and in 1970 the museum moved to its current location. At this point the entire campus and organization was referred to as the Indianapolis Museum of Art, but in 2017 the campus and organization were renamed "Newfields" in a rebranding intended to better reflect the breadth of offerings and venues. The "Indianapolis Museum of Art" now specifically refers to the main art museum building that acts as the cornerstone of the campus, as well as the legal name of the organization doing business as Newfields. [1]
Nomination: I suggested this move 2.5 years ago. The move ran up against two major arguments:
I contend that this article has always been about an organization/institution, which is ultimately what an art museum is, and that the sourcing and branding for Newfields as the WP:COMMONNAME for that institution has only increased over the last 2.5 years. The institution changed their name from the "Art Association of Indianapolis" to the "Indianapolis Museum of Art" and finally to "Newfields". The IMA used to refer to the entirety of this organization, but now only refers to the building that houses their art collection and is the flagship component of Newfields. The article covers actions performed by the organization, not just the physical building and the art inside. When publications talk about actions taken by this organization that used to be called the IMA, they now primarily call it "Newfields". Some examples of either using Newfields exclusively to refer to the museum/organization or primarily using "Newfields": [8] [9] [10] [11], And a couple where the name change is specifically cited as a name change, as opposed to an additional name: "Newfields (née the Indianapolis Museum of Art)" "... Newfields, the institution formerly known as the Indianapolis Museum of Art". And some images/the official website showing how the museum presents itself: [12] [13] [14] the organizations website. And finally their tax returns showing Newfields is a formal d/b/a legal name for the organization that used to be the IMA. To me it is clear the name of this article should be moved to Newfields, and I believe no disambiguation is necessary as the only other similarly named article has it's own natural disambiguation of ", New Hampshire".
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There is a small painting on the first floor that has a group of ladies in a shop looking at paintings that are all based on works by the same artist. Does anyone know what the artists and title of this painting are? I can't find it on the website, and I no longer live in the area to see for myself. -- Scottandrewhutchins 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
This event is scheduled for February, but preparations should start sooner. I suggest if you want to participate you folks form an ad-hoc committee and get in touch with the museum people. Thanks.-- Pharos ( talk) 01:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I propose splitting out the section on Oldfields to a separate article. It is NRHP-listed and further is a U.S. National Historic Landmark and there is extensive documentation available to expand the material. Currently Oldfields redirects to the "Indanapolis Museum of Art". Readers arriving from clicking on links to Oldfields currently find themselves without explanation at IMA article, which has no upfront mention of the NRHP / NHL. doncram ( talk) 23:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
This article was recently overhauled. Any thoughts are welcome. I will state that I updated certain portions that were recently cut down significantly, due to the fact that some edits altered the meaning of the sentence ( diff) or removed pertinent information ( diff) & ( diff). I do want to make sure that these edits are neutral, and understand that my original phrasing may not have been. Once again, thoughts are welcome and I appreciate the dialogue! HstryQT ( talk) 01:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I added the latitude and longitude to the info box - could someone who knows how add a Geohack tag? Or I'll figure it out at some point. - PKM ( talk) 02:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi everyone. Max Anderson is no longer the CEO of the IMA. He has now at the Dallas Museum of Art. [1] [2] [3] Sarah ( talk) 16:24, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
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I believe it is time to change the name of this article to "Newfields". Newfields is the name used for the website, the large sign at the intersection of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, and is how the specific place is referred to as in most articles
The beginning sentence would now read:
Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), an encyclopedic art museum. It is located at the the corner of 4000 N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. Newfields also houses the Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more.
I was hoping to make sure there is no large objections to this move.
Newfields is a 152-acre (0.62 km2) campus that houses the Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA), Lilly House, The Garden, The Virginia B. Fairbanks Art & Nature Park: 100 Acres, the Beer Garden, and more. It is located at the the corner of North Michigan Road and West 38th Street, near downtown Indianapolis, northwest of Crown Hill Cemetery. There are exhibitions, classes, tours, and events, many of which change seasonally. The entire campus was previously referred to as the Indianapolis Museum of Art, but in 2017 the campus and organization were renamed to "Newfields" to better reflect the breadth of offerings and venues. The "Indianapolis Museum of Art" now specifically refers to the main art museum building, as well as the legal name of the organization doing business as Newfields. [1]
I have largely updated the article to include Newfields where it is needed. As there haven't been any follow ups by the one dissent (albeit no other supporters either), I'm going to go ahead and request a move for the article today.
Cerebral726 (
talk)
13:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
References
On October 2, 2019, a copyright violation notice was incorrectly brought against Draft:Newfields, claiming the text was copied from here. The draft for Newfields was copied from the Indianapolis Museum of Art as discussed here. I looked back at the latest revision before the article in question was published on 3/23/2016, and found that the Wikipedia text predates the ArchiTravel article . In fact, the text was first introduced in 2011 with this edit that completely overhauled the article. Please note that there was no copyright violation on my or anyone on Wikipedia's part in this instance and make sure the current version of the text in question goes undeleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerebral726 ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 18:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Indianapolis Museum of Art →
Newfields – Newfields is the name used for the website, the large sign at the intersection of N. Michigan Road and W. 38th Street, and is how the specific place is referred to as
in
recent
articles Also, looking at
their tax returns we can see that "Indianapolis Museum of Art" is still the legal name of the company, and they are
d/b/a Newfields. This indicates this is a
WP:NAMECHANGES, not just a new name for the entire complex. The organization has changed its name, even if the IMA is still the name for the museum proper.
Cerebral726 (
talk)
14:16, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- this article is about the Indianapolis Museum of Art, not the Beer Garden. Newfields could, perhaps should, have its own article, as other broader sites do - Berlin State Museums for example. Two of the other attractions there already have their own articles. You need to add this to the Newfield disam page. Johnbod ( talk) 16:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)*Indianapolis Museum of Art 11 AM - 5 PM
- Lilly House 11 AM - 5 PM
- Beer Garden 11 AM - 5 PM
- The Garden 11 AM - 5 PM
- Fairbanks Park sunrise - sunset
- Miller House & Gardens Open for tours - Closed on Mondays
- The Museum & Garden Shop 11 AM - 5 PM
- The Cafe 11 AM - 5 PM
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus that the current title is still the name of the museum and as such the most suitable title. ( non-admin closure) Turnagra ( talk) 19:13, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Indianapolis Museum of Art → Newfields – Some condensed background from the article: The Indianapolis Museum of Art (IMA) is an art museum located at Newfields, a 152-acre (62 ha) campus that has several components (the art museum, gardens, historic mansion, etc.). The institution was founded in 1883 as the Art Association of Indianapolis and the first permanent museum was opened in 1906 as part of the John Herron Art Institute. In 1969, the Art Association of Indianapolis changed its name to the Indianapolis Museum of Art, and in 1970 the museum moved to its current location. At this point the entire campus and organization was referred to as the Indianapolis Museum of Art, but in 2017 the campus and organization were renamed "Newfields" in a rebranding intended to better reflect the breadth of offerings and venues. The "Indianapolis Museum of Art" now specifically refers to the main art museum building that acts as the cornerstone of the campus, as well as the legal name of the organization doing business as Newfields. [1]
Nomination: I suggested this move 2.5 years ago. The move ran up against two major arguments:
I contend that this article has always been about an organization/institution, which is ultimately what an art museum is, and that the sourcing and branding for Newfields as the WP:COMMONNAME for that institution has only increased over the last 2.5 years. The institution changed their name from the "Art Association of Indianapolis" to the "Indianapolis Museum of Art" and finally to "Newfields". The IMA used to refer to the entirety of this organization, but now only refers to the building that houses their art collection and is the flagship component of Newfields. The article covers actions performed by the organization, not just the physical building and the art inside. When publications talk about actions taken by this organization that used to be called the IMA, they now primarily call it "Newfields". Some examples of either using Newfields exclusively to refer to the museum/organization or primarily using "Newfields": [8] [9] [10] [11], And a couple where the name change is specifically cited as a name change, as opposed to an additional name: "Newfields (née the Indianapolis Museum of Art)" "... Newfields, the institution formerly known as the Indianapolis Museum of Art". And some images/the official website showing how the museum presents itself: [12] [13] [14] the organizations website. And finally their tax returns showing Newfields is a formal d/b/a legal name for the organization that used to be the IMA. To me it is clear the name of this article should be moved to Newfields, and I believe no disambiguation is necessary as the only other similarly named article has it's own natural disambiguation of ", New Hampshire".
References
– Cerebral726 ( talk) 14:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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