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Somebody is Vandalising the document - Indian means of India evewhere except for the Americans, Why these guys dont understand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 10:10, 16 May 2013
You can see the Link here.... http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Indian?q=Indian
Why americans call native people as Indians : Encyclopedia of Minorities in American Politics:Hispanic Americans and Native Americans page 572 by Jeffery D
Proof - Show me one that shows otherwise
Europe http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/23/india-eu-trade-pact-idINDEE93M09220130423 Australia http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/29/indian-stuntman-dies-while-zip-lining-across-river/ Africa http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/world/2013/05/09/man-accused-of-raping-four-year-old-indian-girl Asia http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2013-05/15/content_16501105.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 13:31, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
They are all leading news papers from respective continents and they are calling Indians as Indians (from India), So why are you modifying without showing the proof for your changes(What else u want?), Why are changing if you are not sure- This matter should be checked by some Moderators. What 7-8% (North and south americans )think is not the universal truth.
Why did you not provide any reply to my last response?
You are the one is Vandalizing the page. This matter should be reported.Anybody please let me know how to get the attention of moderators — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 14:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
1) Indians means "people from India" in all the countries of Asia, Europe, Africa and Australia 2) Only in the Americas it means Native Americans.
That should be clearly mentioned in the Article. I am not changing anything related to America, Then why are you changing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 15:05, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Both the sources you have mentioned prefix the Indians with their tribe name (Like sioux Indians etc.) and not just "INDIAN", I want this to be discussed with other editors , preferably with people who are not from USA, Can anyone tell me how to proceed (I am new to Wiki)?, You are MISLEADING here, prove yourself correct with reliable source or just don't make changes as what you think of Indians and I stand by what I said and I have nothing more to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 10:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Response copied from this edit in a Dispute Resolution Noticeboard discussion closed there for stale and inadequate talk page discussion. 216.231.206.5 should consider responding and discussing here. — TransporterMan ( TALK) 14:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC) (DRN volunteer)
I invite any interested readers to consider the various changes made by the IP (as well as tenor of comments provided in the edit summaries).
To sum up, I feel the IP edits are not neutral and do not accurately reflect the ambiguity inherent in the term Indian. older ? wiser 12:11, 16 September 2013 (UTC) |
I have provided multiple sources and why they are disputed? I dont understand how come somebody says that Websites like BBC are not reliable? I need to get the clarification for this Incomplete information. All I want to have is provided the complete information.
There are not isolated examples. How many more sources you want? Why is he not proving his point by citing the sources other than claiming biased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 11:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Why there is no reply - Why you guys are not justifying your point by providing sources? I have raised so many questions and there is no reply other than you keep telling what you think it should be correct? "None of your sources are not proving that Indians means "American Indians" anywhere",All the time they prefix American except for amerian souces , where Indians means American souces, If you cannot prove your point why should you keep the Incorrect Information. ? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
216.231.206.5 (
talk)
07:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
The issue is, when you type "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans" in the address bar it goes to display the page about American from United states instead of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_(disambiguation) page, but when you type "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians" it goes to Disambiguation page. Both are ambiguous words ,so how come each word is treated differently? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
216.231.206.5 (
talk)
10:14, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Referring to the term "Indian" as a misnomer when applied to Indigenous peoples in the Americans is self-evident. They were misnamed as such due to confusion by early European explorers about whether or not they'd found a new route to India and Columbus's mistaken belief that he had reached the Indian Ocean. See Native_American_name_controversy#.22Indian.22_and_.22American_Indian.22_.28since_1492.29. Hence the term is a misnomer. Electoralist ( talk) 16:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
One, two or even a group of people do not speak for an entire ethnicity. There are just as many if not more indigenous Americans who are intensely opposed to being referred to as Indians. Particularly native Americans from outside of North America where the word Indian/indio eventually became a bigoted epithet implying primitiveness, savagery. It’d be like insisting that all African Americans should just accept being called the N word, or Italians/Mediterraneans referred to as Guineas, Dagos, Wogs, Wops, etc… just because some African Americans/Italians don’t have a problem with it or have come to accept it. Regardless it is simply wrong, rude and arrogant and it is akin to someone named John being called Ted by an acquaintance and never having the courtesy of admitting his mistake. On the contrary the acquaintance insists that John should just learn to accept being called Ted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:388:6080:10E:FC8A:5AEE:C6DA:3456 ( talk) 08:20, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Arjayay: I'm not sure I get your point here. I reverted the addition of this entry because it doesn't belong in the body of the dab page. Indian English is never called either just "Indian" or anything like "Indian language". – Uanfala (talk) 12:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Indian page,
American Indian page,
Aboriginals page. FlyingNinja1 ( talk) 06:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Indians and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 29#Indians until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Privybst ( talk) 11:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
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This Index should be fixed....
Somebody is Vandalising the document - Indian means of India evewhere except for the Americans, Why these guys dont understand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 10:10, 16 May 2013
You can see the Link here.... http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Indian?q=Indian
Why americans call native people as Indians : Encyclopedia of Minorities in American Politics:Hispanic Americans and Native Americans page 572 by Jeffery D
Proof - Show me one that shows otherwise
Europe http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/04/23/india-eu-trade-pact-idINDEE93M09220130423 Australia http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/29/indian-stuntman-dies-while-zip-lining-across-river/ Africa http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/world/2013/05/09/man-accused-of-raping-four-year-old-indian-girl Asia http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2013-05/15/content_16501105.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 13:31, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
They are all leading news papers from respective continents and they are calling Indians as Indians (from India), So why are you modifying without showing the proof for your changes(What else u want?), Why are changing if you are not sure- This matter should be checked by some Moderators. What 7-8% (North and south americans )think is not the universal truth.
Why did you not provide any reply to my last response?
You are the one is Vandalizing the page. This matter should be reported.Anybody please let me know how to get the attention of moderators — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 14:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
1) Indians means "people from India" in all the countries of Asia, Europe, Africa and Australia 2) Only in the Americas it means Native Americans.
That should be clearly mentioned in the Article. I am not changing anything related to America, Then why are you changing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 15:05, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Both the sources you have mentioned prefix the Indians with their tribe name (Like sioux Indians etc.) and not just "INDIAN", I want this to be discussed with other editors , preferably with people who are not from USA, Can anyone tell me how to proceed (I am new to Wiki)?, You are MISLEADING here, prove yourself correct with reliable source or just don't make changes as what you think of Indians and I stand by what I said and I have nothing more to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 10:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Response copied from this edit in a Dispute Resolution Noticeboard discussion closed there for stale and inadequate talk page discussion. 216.231.206.5 should consider responding and discussing here. — TransporterMan ( TALK) 14:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC) (DRN volunteer)
I invite any interested readers to consider the various changes made by the IP (as well as tenor of comments provided in the edit summaries).
To sum up, I feel the IP edits are not neutral and do not accurately reflect the ambiguity inherent in the term Indian. older ? wiser 12:11, 16 September 2013 (UTC) |
I have provided multiple sources and why they are disputed? I dont understand how come somebody says that Websites like BBC are not reliable? I need to get the clarification for this Incomplete information. All I want to have is provided the complete information.
There are not isolated examples. How many more sources you want? Why is he not proving his point by citing the sources other than claiming biased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.231.206.5 ( talk) 11:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Why there is no reply - Why you guys are not justifying your point by providing sources? I have raised so many questions and there is no reply other than you keep telling what you think it should be correct? "None of your sources are not proving that Indians means "American Indians" anywhere",All the time they prefix American except for amerian souces , where Indians means American souces, If you cannot prove your point why should you keep the Incorrect Information. ? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
216.231.206.5 (
talk)
07:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
The issue is, when you type "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans" in the address bar it goes to display the page about American from United states instead of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_(disambiguation) page, but when you type "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians" it goes to Disambiguation page. Both are ambiguous words ,so how come each word is treated differently? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
216.231.206.5 (
talk)
10:14, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Referring to the term "Indian" as a misnomer when applied to Indigenous peoples in the Americans is self-evident. They were misnamed as such due to confusion by early European explorers about whether or not they'd found a new route to India and Columbus's mistaken belief that he had reached the Indian Ocean. See Native_American_name_controversy#.22Indian.22_and_.22American_Indian.22_.28since_1492.29. Hence the term is a misnomer. Electoralist ( talk) 16:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
One, two or even a group of people do not speak for an entire ethnicity. There are just as many if not more indigenous Americans who are intensely opposed to being referred to as Indians. Particularly native Americans from outside of North America where the word Indian/indio eventually became a bigoted epithet implying primitiveness, savagery. It’d be like insisting that all African Americans should just accept being called the N word, or Italians/Mediterraneans referred to as Guineas, Dagos, Wogs, Wops, etc… just because some African Americans/Italians don’t have a problem with it or have come to accept it. Regardless it is simply wrong, rude and arrogant and it is akin to someone named John being called Ted by an acquaintance and never having the courtesy of admitting his mistake. On the contrary the acquaintance insists that John should just learn to accept being called Ted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:388:6080:10E:FC8A:5AEE:C6DA:3456 ( talk) 08:20, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Arjayay: I'm not sure I get your point here. I reverted the addition of this entry because it doesn't belong in the body of the dab page. Indian English is never called either just "Indian" or anything like "Indian language". – Uanfala (talk) 12:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Indian page,
American Indian page,
Aboriginals page. FlyingNinja1 ( talk) 06:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Indians and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 29#Indians until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Privybst ( talk) 11:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)