This seems like an interesting project, and I wouldn't mind helping in my spare time. I added some info to 0-9, changed the formatting and put game names in bold so that the Publisher name would be easier to tell apart from the game name, and changed the order a little (according to what I hear lists should have numbers in this order; 4 007 1987 20000). I hope you don't mind the changes, and in that case I am sorry, but this seems interesting. After a while though I think this should either be split into List of MS-DOS games: 1984 with alfabetic sorting under there, or List of MS-DOS games: F with sorting by year under that. If not this list will get very long. Anyhow, great idea. Clq 19:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the help, it's much appreciated. I didn't quite realise how huge the list would become when I started. As far as splitting the list goes, it's probably a good idea. Of course, the ideal situation is that all the red links will become filled, and the list will become redundant (everything will be in
Category:DOS_games). As it is, categories only contain articles that actually exist, so the list is a good way of seeing what actually exists and what doesn't. Sorry, this has turned into more of a ramble than a constructive comment. --
Lucian Gregory
21:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
The next days I will probably be mostly busy with real life stuff, in fact I will probably be busy most of this week, but what would be the best way.. One could probably just continue putting on the main page one letter at the time, and in some free time just move them over to pages for each year. I suggest using the List of MS-DOS games: 1984 format, as that seems to be used in quite some of the other lists. Perhaps tomorrow morning I could sort 0-9 into year page for example. It might be better to actually finish off with the info on the main page, and move when everything in a letter is fully done. And perhaps if one gets tired of inputing info/moving one could create a stub for a random red game ;P. This is obviously quite a long term project (was it 4000 games or so?), so if you can think of another good way of orgenizing, that would of course be nice also. Clq 21:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I think for the time being, we should continue to input info into the main page, as having everything in one list makes it easier to quickly check whether or not a game is already listed. Definitely a long term project - even just listing the majority of games will take a long time - and I've been breaking up the monotony of listing by occasionally editing an existent article (I'm new, and don't feel entirely confident about creating articles yet).
As for organization, sorting into the List of MS-DOS games: 1984 format seems to me to be the best way. Sorting by letter would still result in fairly huge lists, and sorting by genre is tricky (and inevitably controversial). Anyway, I'll see if I can get everything up to the end of C in tonight. -- Lucian Gregory 23:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Really cool project but it looks like you have your work cut out for you :). I'll try to help out when possible. rCX ( talk) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
We are now up to page 44 / 142 on the MobyGames list (1098 out of 3536 entries). -- Lucian Gregory 00:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Up to page 50 Clq 09:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Page 56 -- Lucian Gregory 16:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I have removed 9:05 from the list, as it is not specific to any system; rather, it will run on any system for which there is a Z-Code interpreter (for example, it could be run on a Dreamcast using FrotzDC). I would suggest that games written using Hugo, TADS, Inform, AGT, Alan or Glulx should not be added to the list.
This site might be the best source for PC / DOS specific interactive fiction, although many of the games in that list were created using one of the aforementioned utilities. -- Lucian Gregory 23:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Apologies for starting this project and then apparently abandoning it halfway through. PC / connection troubles have kept me busy for quite some time now. Things should be back to normal now, so expect to see a bit more progress. A very tentative hope is to at least have all the games listed by the end of next week.
On that note, I notice the page is getting rather long. Any suggestions on the best way to split it? I'm thinking something like " List of MS-DOS games (A)", with a navbar on each page.
I think under "external links" for the pages for the DOS games themselves, there should be a site in which the game can be downloaded if it is legal and possible to do so. If it isn't, and there's a legal demo (or shareware) version, then that should be included. But only when it's legal :P
What do you think?
Yoda921 02:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda
Unreal isn't a MS-DOS game. It should be removed from the list. 207.13.77.56 20:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The list also has some Speech patches for games! I think the article needs reorganisation. -- Magioladitis 12:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Great resource, thanks for all the work that's gone into it. Drutt ( talk) 05:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice to have categories. Such as "Adventure", "Action", ect. To make it easier to locate a game. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
203.129.41.144 (
talk)
00:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Seems like this page has been paid attention to less than other lists of games. Perhaps it should be redesigned into a table, similar to how List of Xbox games or List of Games for Windows titles is set up? Unless there's a massive amount of opposition, I'll likely just go ahead and do some of it to start it off. -- Raikuson ( talk) 01:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
The article is greater than 181 KB and the page is very slow to load, not to mention to edit or clean-up. Need help from expert editor spliters!-- Funandtrvl ( talk) 21:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Done. Other than some slight ugliness with the TOC, I think everyone'll be a lot happier with the result.
inclusivedisjunction (
talk)
16:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Is this a list of MS-DOS games or what? There shouldn't be any Windows 95-only games listed, unless there's both a DOS and Windows version of the game. I think I also noticed several shareware games on the list, (VGA Miner etc.) this list should contain commercial software only. -- œ ™ 07:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Why isn't there a parallel List of Windows games article? 2fort5r ( talk) 01:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Are "PC Booter" games "DOS"? How should these things be classified? 2fort5r ( talk) 19:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Moby has a list of them here. I've come across several while cleaning up this list and have treated them as regular DOS games, though they should probably be removed unless they were also released in regular DOS format (bootleg hack conversions should not count). Or possibly leave them in but add a footnote identifying them as booters. 2fort5r ( talk) 13:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I've created a table instead of a list for conformity with the MS-DOS and Windows pages. 2fort5r ( talk) 23:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Both sub-articles Index of MS-DOS games (A–M) and Index of MS-DOS games (N–Z) contain some release dates that cannot be correct when referring to the DOS version of the games, because they are before 1981, although MS-DOS 1.0 was released in 1981. Some games where in the A-M artioiicle have release dates in the 1970s, which is even too early for QDOS. -- MrBurns ( talk) 13:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Sub-articles Index of MS-DOS games (A–M) and Index of MS-DOS games (N–Z) were created without any discussion regarding merging the already existing 27 articles into these two articles. However, per the section above, " Article needs to be split" the consensus was to split all of the titles into 27 separate articles due to the recommended size limit of list articles. However, a user seemed to have completely disregarded this conclusion and did something bold, and actually, in the process, created more work for editors to do. So now, I'm working on something in my sandbox regarding this (to basically revert the error that has been done.) Steel1943 ( talk) 00:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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This seems like an interesting project, and I wouldn't mind helping in my spare time. I added some info to 0-9, changed the formatting and put game names in bold so that the Publisher name would be easier to tell apart from the game name, and changed the order a little (according to what I hear lists should have numbers in this order; 4 007 1987 20000). I hope you don't mind the changes, and in that case I am sorry, but this seems interesting. After a while though I think this should either be split into List of MS-DOS games: 1984 with alfabetic sorting under there, or List of MS-DOS games: F with sorting by year under that. If not this list will get very long. Anyhow, great idea. Clq 19:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the help, it's much appreciated. I didn't quite realise how huge the list would become when I started. As far as splitting the list goes, it's probably a good idea. Of course, the ideal situation is that all the red links will become filled, and the list will become redundant (everything will be in
Category:DOS_games). As it is, categories only contain articles that actually exist, so the list is a good way of seeing what actually exists and what doesn't. Sorry, this has turned into more of a ramble than a constructive comment. --
Lucian Gregory
21:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
The next days I will probably be mostly busy with real life stuff, in fact I will probably be busy most of this week, but what would be the best way.. One could probably just continue putting on the main page one letter at the time, and in some free time just move them over to pages for each year. I suggest using the List of MS-DOS games: 1984 format, as that seems to be used in quite some of the other lists. Perhaps tomorrow morning I could sort 0-9 into year page for example. It might be better to actually finish off with the info on the main page, and move when everything in a letter is fully done. And perhaps if one gets tired of inputing info/moving one could create a stub for a random red game ;P. This is obviously quite a long term project (was it 4000 games or so?), so if you can think of another good way of orgenizing, that would of course be nice also. Clq 21:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I think for the time being, we should continue to input info into the main page, as having everything in one list makes it easier to quickly check whether or not a game is already listed. Definitely a long term project - even just listing the majority of games will take a long time - and I've been breaking up the monotony of listing by occasionally editing an existent article (I'm new, and don't feel entirely confident about creating articles yet).
As for organization, sorting into the List of MS-DOS games: 1984 format seems to me to be the best way. Sorting by letter would still result in fairly huge lists, and sorting by genre is tricky (and inevitably controversial). Anyway, I'll see if I can get everything up to the end of C in tonight. -- Lucian Gregory 23:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Really cool project but it looks like you have your work cut out for you :). I'll try to help out when possible. rCX ( talk) 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
We are now up to page 44 / 142 on the MobyGames list (1098 out of 3536 entries). -- Lucian Gregory 00:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Up to page 50 Clq 09:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Page 56 -- Lucian Gregory 16:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I have removed 9:05 from the list, as it is not specific to any system; rather, it will run on any system for which there is a Z-Code interpreter (for example, it could be run on a Dreamcast using FrotzDC). I would suggest that games written using Hugo, TADS, Inform, AGT, Alan or Glulx should not be added to the list.
This site might be the best source for PC / DOS specific interactive fiction, although many of the games in that list were created using one of the aforementioned utilities. -- Lucian Gregory 23:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Apologies for starting this project and then apparently abandoning it halfway through. PC / connection troubles have kept me busy for quite some time now. Things should be back to normal now, so expect to see a bit more progress. A very tentative hope is to at least have all the games listed by the end of next week.
On that note, I notice the page is getting rather long. Any suggestions on the best way to split it? I'm thinking something like " List of MS-DOS games (A)", with a navbar on each page.
I think under "external links" for the pages for the DOS games themselves, there should be a site in which the game can be downloaded if it is legal and possible to do so. If it isn't, and there's a legal demo (or shareware) version, then that should be included. But only when it's legal :P
What do you think?
Yoda921 02:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda
Unreal isn't a MS-DOS game. It should be removed from the list. 207.13.77.56 20:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The list also has some Speech patches for games! I think the article needs reorganisation. -- Magioladitis 12:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Great resource, thanks for all the work that's gone into it. Drutt ( talk) 05:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice to have categories. Such as "Adventure", "Action", ect. To make it easier to locate a game. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
203.129.41.144 (
talk)
00:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Seems like this page has been paid attention to less than other lists of games. Perhaps it should be redesigned into a table, similar to how List of Xbox games or List of Games for Windows titles is set up? Unless there's a massive amount of opposition, I'll likely just go ahead and do some of it to start it off. -- Raikuson ( talk) 01:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
The article is greater than 181 KB and the page is very slow to load, not to mention to edit or clean-up. Need help from expert editor spliters!-- Funandtrvl ( talk) 21:58, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Done. Other than some slight ugliness with the TOC, I think everyone'll be a lot happier with the result.
inclusivedisjunction (
talk)
16:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Is this a list of MS-DOS games or what? There shouldn't be any Windows 95-only games listed, unless there's both a DOS and Windows version of the game. I think I also noticed several shareware games on the list, (VGA Miner etc.) this list should contain commercial software only. -- œ ™ 07:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Why isn't there a parallel List of Windows games article? 2fort5r ( talk) 01:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Are "PC Booter" games "DOS"? How should these things be classified? 2fort5r ( talk) 19:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Moby has a list of them here. I've come across several while cleaning up this list and have treated them as regular DOS games, though they should probably be removed unless they were also released in regular DOS format (bootleg hack conversions should not count). Or possibly leave them in but add a footnote identifying them as booters. 2fort5r ( talk) 13:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I've created a table instead of a list for conformity with the MS-DOS and Windows pages. 2fort5r ( talk) 23:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Both sub-articles Index of MS-DOS games (A–M) and Index of MS-DOS games (N–Z) contain some release dates that cannot be correct when referring to the DOS version of the games, because they are before 1981, although MS-DOS 1.0 was released in 1981. Some games where in the A-M artioiicle have release dates in the 1970s, which is even too early for QDOS. -- MrBurns ( talk) 13:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Sub-articles Index of MS-DOS games (A–M) and Index of MS-DOS games (N–Z) were created without any discussion regarding merging the already existing 27 articles into these two articles. However, per the section above, " Article needs to be split" the consensus was to split all of the titles into 27 separate articles due to the recommended size limit of list articles. However, a user seemed to have completely disregarded this conclusion and did something bold, and actually, in the process, created more work for editors to do. So now, I'm working on something in my sandbox regarding this (to basically revert the error that has been done.) Steel1943 ( talk) 00:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)