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Also, sources should be cited for this article. Chonak 06:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I don't know much about ordination, but the part of this article that relates to marriage is in need of major editing. Being a bold Wikipedian, I will dive in.
As regards disparity of cult, it is a diriment (invalidating) impediment, but since it is part of ecclesiastical law as regards its invalidating nature, it only invalidates a marriage between a Catholic and a non-Christian. -- Cat Whisperer 03:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's not really a surprise that we're confused, given that the 1983 Code itself confuses the concepts of liceity and validity to a certain extent. It isn't really coherent to say that disparity of cult invalidates some marriages, but not others, but the Code appears to say so anyway, blissfully ignoring the operative self-contradiction. Either something is a requirement for validity or it isn't. Whether it's licit is a different story, but, as the article notes, the current code doesn't really seem to conceive of or provide for a "valid but illicit" marriage. And yet, most of the bullet points under the subheading "Other factors which invalidate marriage" actually only say the couple "may not marry," which is not the same thing as saying that if they do marry anyway the sacrament is invalid. Carolynparrishfan ( talk) 21:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Just some notes as I go -- Cat Whisperer 04:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
There is still much more to go, but I'm getting tired for now.
(above comment by Cat Whisperer).
Regarding canon 1089, the Navarre commentary says:
The indications given here provide a better understanding on dispensation. Per se, the impediment as such can be dispensed and the dispensation is, in principle, reserved to the local Ordinary and not to the Holy See (cf. c. 1078). Nevertheless, one should not expect a change in the previous practice of not dispensing from this impediment, since its cessation depends really on the will of the abductor.
-- Cat Whisperer 12:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
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The contents of the Impediment of Crime page were merged into Impediment (Catholic canon law) on 29 July 2016. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Also, sources should be cited for this article. Chonak 06:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I don't know much about ordination, but the part of this article that relates to marriage is in need of major editing. Being a bold Wikipedian, I will dive in.
As regards disparity of cult, it is a diriment (invalidating) impediment, but since it is part of ecclesiastical law as regards its invalidating nature, it only invalidates a marriage between a Catholic and a non-Christian. -- Cat Whisperer 03:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's not really a surprise that we're confused, given that the 1983 Code itself confuses the concepts of liceity and validity to a certain extent. It isn't really coherent to say that disparity of cult invalidates some marriages, but not others, but the Code appears to say so anyway, blissfully ignoring the operative self-contradiction. Either something is a requirement for validity or it isn't. Whether it's licit is a different story, but, as the article notes, the current code doesn't really seem to conceive of or provide for a "valid but illicit" marriage. And yet, most of the bullet points under the subheading "Other factors which invalidate marriage" actually only say the couple "may not marry," which is not the same thing as saying that if they do marry anyway the sacrament is invalid. Carolynparrishfan ( talk) 21:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Just some notes as I go -- Cat Whisperer 04:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
There is still much more to go, but I'm getting tired for now.
(above comment by Cat Whisperer).
Regarding canon 1089, the Navarre commentary says:
The indications given here provide a better understanding on dispensation. Per se, the impediment as such can be dispensed and the dispensation is, in principle, reserved to the local Ordinary and not to the Holy See (cf. c. 1078). Nevertheless, one should not expect a change in the previous practice of not dispensing from this impediment, since its cessation depends really on the will of the abductor.
-- Cat Whisperer 12:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Canon law (Catholic Church) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 17:00, 11 July 2016 (UTC)