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Anupam, please review WP:NOFULLTEXT. Thank you. Dr. Ryan E. ( talk) 10:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Does someone mind if we add that various religions "have gathered together to pray for an end to the COVID-19 pandemic" (already in the text), "despite governments advising people to avoid large gatherings"? Or is it out of scope of this article that some religious groups are spreading this virus even more? If it's out of scope, where does it fit better? -- mfb ( talk) 02:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Isn't this really a pointless page, with a huge but vastly incomplete list of all the congregations cancelled or religious places shut down? Is the religion supposed to have been "impacted" due to these closures, while on the other hand, the congregations that went ahead and resulted in deaths are completely ignored? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
User:the wub, I just had a look at the South Korea and France articles with respect to the coronavirus pandemic. Would you propose that sections be created on the Christian Open Door Church and Shincheonji within the Christianity section? Another idea is to have a separate section in this article called "spread of the virus" although I fear it might become a coatrack of random examples of religious gatherings; in my humble opinion, it might be best to retain the information in the South Korea and France articles where it is relevant and perhaps mention in the lede these two events that perpetuated the virus. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Kind regards, Anupam Talk 01:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Hajj#Cancellation?. You heard it here!! Bokoharamwatch ( talk) 15:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
I think the section on the LDS response to COVID-19 is lacking. Here's another resource that provides more info on how the Mormon Church has responded: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/coronavirus-update Greatawakening2020 ( talk) 20:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Bookku ( talk) 07:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
As a reader, each of my subsequent visits to various COVID-19 pandemic related articles bemuse me more.
If there were no human individual & group failures, then how did the decease spread ? If failures at multiple levels contributed spread of decease where is adequate Wikipedia coverage?
People and groups not following expected precautions on various pretexts- whether for secular or non secular reasons does not seem to to be adequately covered. Whether it is half-heartedness of W.H.O. in issuing timely advisories; to governments, to groups, to individuals; not following advisories. Failures are at multiple level and media seems to have if not enough minimal coverage of the criticism of human failures in giving pandemic proportions to the decease .
My contention is Wikipedians do not seem to cover criticism, as I said each of my visit I find refrain, avoidance, curtailment, window dressing and at places undeclared censorship that criticism does not get wider attention. On side note many times I find Wikipedia consensus more of a democratic process than logical process which tends to indirectly compromise on neutrality.
Most of 'impact' articles & sections are unidirectional, how the COVID-19 pandemic affected 'So and so' but hardly any mention of the 'so and so' were likely contributors to spread of pandemic and many not taking seriously and flouting public health wise very important advisories.
Is not main article COVID-19 pandemic indirectly connected to sub topic article? and talk page of main article does not want to entertain failure of neutrality in subtopic article than how does main article remains neutral?
As a Wikipedia editor my present focus is some other topics, still I attempted to give minor coverage to criticism part, but as a reader and frank reviewer I find information gaps on above mentioned topics.
Thanks and greetings
Bookku ( talk) 02:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Bookku: You've posted the exact same text to four different pages. That is somewhat counter-productive, see WP:TALKFORK. I suggest you close some of those discussions and choose to keep one either at the Wikiproject page or at the main COVID-19 pandemic article. 107.190.33.254 ( talk) 03:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, centralized discussion is @ Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_COVID-19#Is_coverage_really_'neutral'_enough?_specially_in_article_leads_&_'impact'_articles_&_sections thanks.
Bookku ( talk) 04:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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This page needs updating, as it only contains information about the initial impact of the pandemic in 2020. The pandemic lasted well into 2021, and for that matter, not everyone would agree that it is over currently in 2022. Greatawakening2020 ( talk) 21:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Has anyone seen anything about the impact on new religious movements such as Scientology? Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 22:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
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Anupam, please review WP:NOFULLTEXT. Thank you. Dr. Ryan E. ( talk) 10:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Does someone mind if we add that various religions "have gathered together to pray for an end to the COVID-19 pandemic" (already in the text), "despite governments advising people to avoid large gatherings"? Or is it out of scope of this article that some religious groups are spreading this virus even more? If it's out of scope, where does it fit better? -- mfb ( talk) 02:44, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Isn't this really a pointless page, with a huge but vastly incomplete list of all the congregations cancelled or religious places shut down? Is the religion supposed to have been "impacted" due to these closures, while on the other hand, the congregations that went ahead and resulted in deaths are completely ignored? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 09:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
User:the wub, I just had a look at the South Korea and France articles with respect to the coronavirus pandemic. Would you propose that sections be created on the Christian Open Door Church and Shincheonji within the Christianity section? Another idea is to have a separate section in this article called "spread of the virus" although I fear it might become a coatrack of random examples of religious gatherings; in my humble opinion, it might be best to retain the information in the South Korea and France articles where it is relevant and perhaps mention in the lede these two events that perpetuated the virus. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Kind regards, Anupam Talk 01:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Hajj#Cancellation?. You heard it here!! Bokoharamwatch ( talk) 15:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
I think the section on the LDS response to COVID-19 is lacking. Here's another resource that provides more info on how the Mormon Church has responded: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/coronavirus-update Greatawakening2020 ( talk) 20:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Bookku ( talk) 07:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
As a reader, each of my subsequent visits to various COVID-19 pandemic related articles bemuse me more.
If there were no human individual & group failures, then how did the decease spread ? If failures at multiple levels contributed spread of decease where is adequate Wikipedia coverage?
People and groups not following expected precautions on various pretexts- whether for secular or non secular reasons does not seem to to be adequately covered. Whether it is half-heartedness of W.H.O. in issuing timely advisories; to governments, to groups, to individuals; not following advisories. Failures are at multiple level and media seems to have if not enough minimal coverage of the criticism of human failures in giving pandemic proportions to the decease .
My contention is Wikipedians do not seem to cover criticism, as I said each of my visit I find refrain, avoidance, curtailment, window dressing and at places undeclared censorship that criticism does not get wider attention. On side note many times I find Wikipedia consensus more of a democratic process than logical process which tends to indirectly compromise on neutrality.
Most of 'impact' articles & sections are unidirectional, how the COVID-19 pandemic affected 'So and so' but hardly any mention of the 'so and so' were likely contributors to spread of pandemic and many not taking seriously and flouting public health wise very important advisories.
Is not main article COVID-19 pandemic indirectly connected to sub topic article? and talk page of main article does not want to entertain failure of neutrality in subtopic article than how does main article remains neutral?
As a Wikipedia editor my present focus is some other topics, still I attempted to give minor coverage to criticism part, but as a reader and frank reviewer I find information gaps on above mentioned topics.
Thanks and greetings
Bookku ( talk) 02:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Bookku: You've posted the exact same text to four different pages. That is somewhat counter-productive, see WP:TALKFORK. I suggest you close some of those discussions and choose to keep one either at the Wikiproject page or at the main COVID-19 pandemic article. 107.190.33.254 ( talk) 03:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, centralized discussion is @ Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_COVID-19#Is_coverage_really_'neutral'_enough?_specially_in_article_leads_&_'impact'_articles_&_sections thanks.
Bookku ( talk) 04:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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This page needs updating, as it only contains information about the initial impact of the pandemic in 2020. The pandemic lasted well into 2021, and for that matter, not everyone would agree that it is over currently in 2022. Greatawakening2020 ( talk) 21:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Has anyone seen anything about the impact on new religious movements such as Scientology? Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 22:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)