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Isent this called Imaginationland Part 2 not episode 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.243.251 ( talk) 12:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Before a list of nightmare creatures gets started, can be PLEASE discuss the issue of placing the list? I don't want to see the same issue from the first episode on here. Douglasr007 02:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Due to the overlapping nature of the characters across the three part series the lists are going to get out of control very quick. Already several duplicates are listed across episode one and two. I would rather not see the huge lists but in my opinion if people are going to insist on having a list it would be best to just create an Imaginationland page. Generalleoff 08:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Lets make a new page for inhabitants of Imaginationland and link it to the articles of the three episodes. We could make a key to which episode each character was in. Any thoughts?-- Cartman005 16:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
i completely agree. a new article for the entire list then perhaps a very small list of the "major" imaginary characters thena link to the new article on each page Philbuck222 18:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the Main Charakter-List (perhaps every charakter who sais something) plus a list for the good ones and one for the bad ones... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.60.217.1 ( talk) 09:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
See Talk:Imaginationland#Merge poll for a centralized proposal
Anyone know if this is the same scene as the one in Abyss? -- 68.209.227.3 02:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Cartman's line "You never backed away from anything in your life! Now fight!" is taken verbatim from the abyss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.6.88 ( talk) 07:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The way that Cartman vigorously beat on Kyle's chest seems to mirror the way Jack tried to ressurect Charlie. When I saw it on South Park, I immediately thought of LOST, but when that "backed away" comment was uttered, I also thought of the Abyss. I believe they both deserve a mention.-- Exer 505 22:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
There's a link to the revival of Charlie in Season 1 of LOST. I think it's awfully similiar, but it's a decision that needs to be agreed on http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BwKTFeD0ZFY -- Exer 505 22:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, in The Abyss, the main guy removes the woman's shirt, and I believe he has her defibrillated once after they say she's dead. We should have a side-by-side comparison of all three videos. NiGHTS into Dreams... 00:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the double post, but IGN's review states the following about the scene: "They've even gone back to an Abyss reference to keep life in the joke. There's a bit of irony that a resuscitation sequence is worked into a joke that is slowly dying." I realize that IGN isn't the most credible source ever, but it seems like this is leaning towards an Abyss reference. Should we vote? I certainly believe it's worth a mention on the page. (NEVER MIND, it was already there. Sorry, I should've checked. NiGHTS into Dreams... 02:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Um, am I the only person who realizes that they are referencing both? 98.204.65.214 02:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Uh, We don't HAVE to vote. We COULD just state that the scene was inspired by LOST and the Abyss, as the last poster said. There are some pretty strong simularites with both.-- Exer 505 02:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
-- 68.9.193.246 02:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Kyle will never suck Cartman's balls because the contract is null and void. The contract is null and void because Cartman had to prove that a leprechaun was REAL. A leprechaun, at least in this case, was not real, it was by technical definition imaginary. I simply can not see this plotline stretching out in episode three. I "imagine" that they'll focus on Stan falling (back) into Imaginationland and teaming up with Butters somehow to fix everything back to the way it was; possibly by imagining it that way. -- 166.102.104.42 03:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
And also Cartman actually said in the first few minutes of part 1 "we had a deal Kyle, if I can prove that there is a leprechaun you have to suck my balls". The contract said nothing about "real" leprechaun, he just had to prove that there was one JayKeaton 19:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me who the evil imaginary character in the golden armor is? It looks like some greek god or something. I know I've seen him before, and I just can't remember what movie/tv series/book he's supposed to be from. It's driving me nuts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.252.188.22 ( talk) 03:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
From Saint Seiya I believe, the man in the golden armor is the warrior of Leo or something like that.
Is it possible that this is a oxymoron? In the episode 4th Grade, the nerds argue over if there was ever a two-parter in Battlestar Galatica, coming to the conclusion that there was not. So I am not arguing the dramatic effect that it is common in dramas, just that it is specifically a show that does not have "previously on *****"? 143.195.150.63
Sorry, but they argued over how many Star Trek episodes there were, not Battlestar Galactica.
I know they talked about Star Trek through most of the episode. Towards the end, right before they open the portal a second time, they argue about Battlestar Galactica. And I know its a joke, i'm not stupid, but i'm saying there might be more to it. 143.195.150.63 —Preceding comment was added at 15:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
What movie/tv show is this from? Its really bothering me that I cant remember. Is it terminator 3? Iownatv 04:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
If I remember right, it IS from Terminator 2.-- Exer 505 22:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
-G
its from final fantasy spirits within.
Philbuck222 23:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The visual image is directly out of Gladiator. Gladiator didn't have dialogue during the dreams, but the dialogue for this episode pretty much exactly matches both Final Fantasy and Terminator 2. In both movies the main character has a recurring dream of basically the end of the world, and they both narrate their dream at some point. Professor Chaos 23:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The way that Cartman in his regal getup rises up besides Kyle in the bed, doesn't that seem like an allusion to a Burger King commercial?-- 70.253.203.15 06:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be noted that this goof is possibly (I believe most probably) intentional? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.78.11.77 ( talk) 06:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
im sorry what?
Philbuck222 18:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
The wizard is obviously Gandalf the Grey. Dumbledore does not wear a grey pointed hat like that. Ψαμαθος 07:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how many copyright violations are there in these episodes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.162.35 ( talk) 14:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Where the hell is he in all of this? -- 68.209.227.3 15:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah what happened to jimmy too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.70.6 ( talk) 20:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
In the scene with Khan Noonien Sihn, Jason, and whomever that is, looks like a robotic Kublai Khan... Speaking of that, should a list of 'Real' Imaginary characters shown, be compiled, with perhaphs a controversy/intended message be given?
It almost looks like Matt and Trey somehow see Jesus as both real, and fake...
Notably, Satan does not appear, likely as he is too similar to other characters use. Matt or is it Treys, 'angry' voice can only be used for 5 different characters in an episode before they sound too similar... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.52.195 ( talk) 20:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The thing about Jesus and Zeus; the episode where Jesus is one of the super best friends, he is definitely real, along with moses, buddha, etc. Zeus has never been featured as 'real.' and we all know jesus lives in south park...so why is he in imaginationland? is this a goof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exaltedllama ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess it can be explained that Jesus, Santa Claus, and the ice cream taco dude are all just imaginary characters all along. The mayor did say that, "just because we're imaginary, doesn't mean we're not real." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.130.64 ( talk) 00:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
All these characters came from Matt's and Trey's imaginations, therefore they are imaginary and I'm sure there's no reason that Satan's not there other than that he's not there. Professor Chaos 04:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Where is Mr. Hanky anyways? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.36.24 ( talk) 00:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
BTW, is it not worth noting that all of the Super Best Friends characters except for Mohammed appear in the episodes. I think this is relevant as a "sign of our times". I exclude Moses since he/it is supposed to be a fixed supercomputer. Although one will have to wait for the third episode to air, I do think a note should be made about that since it is very relevant in regards to Muslim sensitivity in our day and age. And please, no comments about how Mohammed is truly real and not immaginary since it is all in the context of South Park. If anything, Jesus is very real in South Park, since he has a house and is a regular at a local television show. Plus has regular interaction with South Park inhabitants. I have no problem with Matt and Trey making a point about religion by creating the Super Best Friends personae, but still it should be documented that the use of Mohammed as a character has become off limits even for South Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.36.24 ( talk) 00:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Just a thought: Maybe the dead Jesus is imaginary and the live one is real, as he did live and interact with South Park characters when alive and not so when dead. As if to say the spirit of Jesus is just our imagination.-- Zahveed 14:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Aren't God and Jesus technically everywhere according to the Christian Religion though? So couldn't God and Jesus could be in the real world and imaginationland at the same time?
The whole issue of Jesus is "adressed" in Episode III. It's a part of the plot. blades ( talk) 12:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Council of Nine are separate characters in the main body of the story and is interlinked in the article itself so the reader will know who Council of Nine are, merging them with the other characters leaves the reader with no idea who they all are.▪◦▪
≡ЅiREX≡
Talk 01:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Who's the guy with the human body, bull-head (with horns, not sure what it exactly is), and an axe? He has a relatively prominent role in the story since they show him a lot, and he speaks too, but I just can't figure out who he is.
My apologies, I just realized it's a minotaur. Sorry for the wasted space. Dannysk89 04:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)dannysk89 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannysk89 ( talk • contribs) 04:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the only reason Cartman cried for Kyle is the ball-sucking thing. I think, deep down, he really did care.
And didn't one episode say something like that? 74.132.113.20 22:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Right at the end of "Le pettit tourettes" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.101.5 ( talk) 13:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Well you can think that, but it doesn't make it true. There's a reason why the extended Imagination land movie had Cartman say, "He can still suck my balls!" straight after reviving Kyle. The whole scene was a parody of Abyss, already explained above. It was selfish- nothing else to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.148.131.103 ( talk) 20:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
The Orc in the episode is not only borrowed from LotR, but a direct copy of the orcs in the horrible 1977 animated movie based on The Hobbit (film) - compare with http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/tolkien/h-1-2155-goblin.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.150.201.71 ( talk) 13:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Surely the fact that the two parts are the same means it should be noted? The eyesocket scene may not have been taken directly from the movie, but the fact remains, they are the same, therefore it should be noted. 83.100.181.173 09:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that separate article for Imaginationland inhabitants is a good idea. Fleutist 12:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Where else would it go? Rambledamble 21:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I have requested comment from neutral editors to hopefully have this merge dispute resolved.-- Swellman 02:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Did I see a pirate as the monsters?( TougHHead 03:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC))
Whereas Ryan simply removed the sections, I felt that , if sourced, they can return. The following trivia bits from allusions need to be reliably and notably sourced (and no, a fan forum is not such). they cannot be added without aforementioned citation.
- Allusions
- The scene where Cartman is walking through the wheat field makes reference to Gladiator when the character Maximus walks through the tall wheat of his homeland, the quote "every night the dream is the same" comes from Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
- The Mayor of Imaginationland telling Butters mockingly to click his heels three times to return home is a reference to The Wizard of Oz where the same method is used by Dorothy and Toto to return to Kansas.
- The scene of the ManBearPig emerging through the gate and attacking scientists is extremely similar to a scene in the videogame Doom 3 where two Hellknights must be defeated before the player enters the Hell level
- The scene where Cartman revives Kyle is taken from another similar resuscitation scene in the film The Abyss even using the same dialog from the movie "You never backed away from anything in your life! Now fight!".
- Butters' meeting with the Council of Nine is a direct reference to the scene in Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, where Frodo is taken to Rivendell.
- When Butters, Snarf, and the Lollipop King are fleeing through the Gumdrop Forest, the path they are using is the exact same walkway from the Candy Land boardgame.
- The table that the Council of Nine sits at is strikingly similar to the triforce from "The Legend of Zelda" series.
- The episode opens with Cartman intoning "Previously, on Battlestar Galactica," over a still of that show's logo, in the same manner that every episode of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica opens.
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
when cartman yells NOOOOOO! it is in a different voice. this was fixed in later airings —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.163.156 ( talk) 19:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Again, cite this stuff and it can remain;
Alastairward ( talk) 11:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Can we have some sort of discussion about adding in, or leaving out, a reference to the Abyss? This 'edit war' has been going on for months and months. Lots42 ( talk) 09:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
It makes perfect sense, without it you're assuming you know what the writers were thinking at the time. Check again all the policies on no original research and verifiability. Alastairward ( talk) 19:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we surrender our copyright automatically when we edit wikipedia. But aside from that, all I'm asking for is a cite. Alastairward ( talk) 16:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I think you should've included the Joker in that article. He was clearly seen in this episode. -- Geekboy6 ( talk) 23:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
So, one or two people apparently have decided that this article "does not meet the general notability guideline", and have placed that tag on this article. Despite the fact that I have argued that 1). the three-part Imaginationland is a very popular story arc in the Sotuh Park series 2). It has been released on DVD, and perhaps most importantly, 3). IT WON AN EMMY AWARD, and thusly I have tried twice to remove this notability tag, because it doesn't belong. But, my efforts are reverted and I am accused of edit warring. Can we get some consensus, please, that this article IS notable, and remove the notability tag? I would also like to see the notability tag that ONE editor has put on a lot of other South Park episodes removed. He has apparently made it his life's mission to deem South Park episodes unworthy of Wikipedia articles, and one or two other editors have decided his cause is worth taking up. Personally, I'd like to see this nonsense stopped. 98.220.135.184 ( talk) 03:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
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Isent this called Imaginationland Part 2 not episode 2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.243.251 ( talk) 12:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Before a list of nightmare creatures gets started, can be PLEASE discuss the issue of placing the list? I don't want to see the same issue from the first episode on here. Douglasr007 02:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Due to the overlapping nature of the characters across the three part series the lists are going to get out of control very quick. Already several duplicates are listed across episode one and two. I would rather not see the huge lists but in my opinion if people are going to insist on having a list it would be best to just create an Imaginationland page. Generalleoff 08:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Lets make a new page for inhabitants of Imaginationland and link it to the articles of the three episodes. We could make a key to which episode each character was in. Any thoughts?-- Cartman005 16:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
i completely agree. a new article for the entire list then perhaps a very small list of the "major" imaginary characters thena link to the new article on each page Philbuck222 18:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the Main Charakter-List (perhaps every charakter who sais something) plus a list for the good ones and one for the bad ones... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.60.217.1 ( talk) 09:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
See Talk:Imaginationland#Merge poll for a centralized proposal
Anyone know if this is the same scene as the one in Abyss? -- 68.209.227.3 02:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Cartman's line "You never backed away from anything in your life! Now fight!" is taken verbatim from the abyss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.191.6.88 ( talk) 07:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The way that Cartman vigorously beat on Kyle's chest seems to mirror the way Jack tried to ressurect Charlie. When I saw it on South Park, I immediately thought of LOST, but when that "backed away" comment was uttered, I also thought of the Abyss. I believe they both deserve a mention.-- Exer 505 22:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
There's a link to the revival of Charlie in Season 1 of LOST. I think it's awfully similiar, but it's a decision that needs to be agreed on http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BwKTFeD0ZFY -- Exer 505 22:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, in The Abyss, the main guy removes the woman's shirt, and I believe he has her defibrillated once after they say she's dead. We should have a side-by-side comparison of all three videos. NiGHTS into Dreams... 00:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the double post, but IGN's review states the following about the scene: "They've even gone back to an Abyss reference to keep life in the joke. There's a bit of irony that a resuscitation sequence is worked into a joke that is slowly dying." I realize that IGN isn't the most credible source ever, but it seems like this is leaning towards an Abyss reference. Should we vote? I certainly believe it's worth a mention on the page. (NEVER MIND, it was already there. Sorry, I should've checked. NiGHTS into Dreams... 02:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Um, am I the only person who realizes that they are referencing both? 98.204.65.214 02:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Uh, We don't HAVE to vote. We COULD just state that the scene was inspired by LOST and the Abyss, as the last poster said. There are some pretty strong simularites with both.-- Exer 505 02:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
-- 68.9.193.246 02:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Kyle will never suck Cartman's balls because the contract is null and void. The contract is null and void because Cartman had to prove that a leprechaun was REAL. A leprechaun, at least in this case, was not real, it was by technical definition imaginary. I simply can not see this plotline stretching out in episode three. I "imagine" that they'll focus on Stan falling (back) into Imaginationland and teaming up with Butters somehow to fix everything back to the way it was; possibly by imagining it that way. -- 166.102.104.42 03:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
And also Cartman actually said in the first few minutes of part 1 "we had a deal Kyle, if I can prove that there is a leprechaun you have to suck my balls". The contract said nothing about "real" leprechaun, he just had to prove that there was one JayKeaton 19:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me who the evil imaginary character in the golden armor is? It looks like some greek god or something. I know I've seen him before, and I just can't remember what movie/tv series/book he's supposed to be from. It's driving me nuts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.252.188.22 ( talk) 03:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
From Saint Seiya I believe, the man in the golden armor is the warrior of Leo or something like that.
Is it possible that this is a oxymoron? In the episode 4th Grade, the nerds argue over if there was ever a two-parter in Battlestar Galatica, coming to the conclusion that there was not. So I am not arguing the dramatic effect that it is common in dramas, just that it is specifically a show that does not have "previously on *****"? 143.195.150.63
Sorry, but they argued over how many Star Trek episodes there were, not Battlestar Galactica.
I know they talked about Star Trek through most of the episode. Towards the end, right before they open the portal a second time, they argue about Battlestar Galactica. And I know its a joke, i'm not stupid, but i'm saying there might be more to it. 143.195.150.63 —Preceding comment was added at 15:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
What movie/tv show is this from? Its really bothering me that I cant remember. Is it terminator 3? Iownatv 04:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
If I remember right, it IS from Terminator 2.-- Exer 505 22:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
-G
its from final fantasy spirits within.
Philbuck222 23:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The visual image is directly out of Gladiator. Gladiator didn't have dialogue during the dreams, but the dialogue for this episode pretty much exactly matches both Final Fantasy and Terminator 2. In both movies the main character has a recurring dream of basically the end of the world, and they both narrate their dream at some point. Professor Chaos 23:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The way that Cartman in his regal getup rises up besides Kyle in the bed, doesn't that seem like an allusion to a Burger King commercial?-- 70.253.203.15 06:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be noted that this goof is possibly (I believe most probably) intentional? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.78.11.77 ( talk) 06:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
im sorry what?
Philbuck222 18:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
The wizard is obviously Gandalf the Grey. Dumbledore does not wear a grey pointed hat like that. Ψαμαθος 07:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how many copyright violations are there in these episodes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.162.35 ( talk) 14:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Where the hell is he in all of this? -- 68.209.227.3 15:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah what happened to jimmy too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.70.6 ( talk) 20:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
In the scene with Khan Noonien Sihn, Jason, and whomever that is, looks like a robotic Kublai Khan... Speaking of that, should a list of 'Real' Imaginary characters shown, be compiled, with perhaphs a controversy/intended message be given?
It almost looks like Matt and Trey somehow see Jesus as both real, and fake...
Notably, Satan does not appear, likely as he is too similar to other characters use. Matt or is it Treys, 'angry' voice can only be used for 5 different characters in an episode before they sound too similar... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.52.195 ( talk) 20:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
The thing about Jesus and Zeus; the episode where Jesus is one of the super best friends, he is definitely real, along with moses, buddha, etc. Zeus has never been featured as 'real.' and we all know jesus lives in south park...so why is he in imaginationland? is this a goof? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exaltedllama ( talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I guess it can be explained that Jesus, Santa Claus, and the ice cream taco dude are all just imaginary characters all along. The mayor did say that, "just because we're imaginary, doesn't mean we're not real." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.130.64 ( talk) 00:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
All these characters came from Matt's and Trey's imaginations, therefore they are imaginary and I'm sure there's no reason that Satan's not there other than that he's not there. Professor Chaos 04:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Where is Mr. Hanky anyways? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.36.24 ( talk) 00:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
BTW, is it not worth noting that all of the Super Best Friends characters except for Mohammed appear in the episodes. I think this is relevant as a "sign of our times". I exclude Moses since he/it is supposed to be a fixed supercomputer. Although one will have to wait for the third episode to air, I do think a note should be made about that since it is very relevant in regards to Muslim sensitivity in our day and age. And please, no comments about how Mohammed is truly real and not immaginary since it is all in the context of South Park. If anything, Jesus is very real in South Park, since he has a house and is a regular at a local television show. Plus has regular interaction with South Park inhabitants. I have no problem with Matt and Trey making a point about religion by creating the Super Best Friends personae, but still it should be documented that the use of Mohammed as a character has become off limits even for South Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.166.36.24 ( talk) 00:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Just a thought: Maybe the dead Jesus is imaginary and the live one is real, as he did live and interact with South Park characters when alive and not so when dead. As if to say the spirit of Jesus is just our imagination.-- Zahveed 14:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Aren't God and Jesus technically everywhere according to the Christian Religion though? So couldn't God and Jesus could be in the real world and imaginationland at the same time?
The whole issue of Jesus is "adressed" in Episode III. It's a part of the plot. blades ( talk) 12:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Council of Nine are separate characters in the main body of the story and is interlinked in the article itself so the reader will know who Council of Nine are, merging them with the other characters leaves the reader with no idea who they all are.▪◦▪
≡ЅiREX≡
Talk 01:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Who's the guy with the human body, bull-head (with horns, not sure what it exactly is), and an axe? He has a relatively prominent role in the story since they show him a lot, and he speaks too, but I just can't figure out who he is.
My apologies, I just realized it's a minotaur. Sorry for the wasted space. Dannysk89 04:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)dannysk89 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannysk89 ( talk • contribs) 04:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the only reason Cartman cried for Kyle is the ball-sucking thing. I think, deep down, he really did care.
And didn't one episode say something like that? 74.132.113.20 22:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Right at the end of "Le pettit tourettes" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.101.5 ( talk) 13:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Well you can think that, but it doesn't make it true. There's a reason why the extended Imagination land movie had Cartman say, "He can still suck my balls!" straight after reviving Kyle. The whole scene was a parody of Abyss, already explained above. It was selfish- nothing else to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.148.131.103 ( talk) 20:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
The Orc in the episode is not only borrowed from LotR, but a direct copy of the orcs in the horrible 1977 animated movie based on The Hobbit (film) - compare with http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/tolkien/h-1-2155-goblin.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.150.201.71 ( talk) 13:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Surely the fact that the two parts are the same means it should be noted? The eyesocket scene may not have been taken directly from the movie, but the fact remains, they are the same, therefore it should be noted. 83.100.181.173 09:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that separate article for Imaginationland inhabitants is a good idea. Fleutist 12:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Where else would it go? Rambledamble 21:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I have requested comment from neutral editors to hopefully have this merge dispute resolved.-- Swellman 02:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Did I see a pirate as the monsters?( TougHHead 03:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC))
Whereas Ryan simply removed the sections, I felt that , if sourced, they can return. The following trivia bits from allusions need to be reliably and notably sourced (and no, a fan forum is not such). they cannot be added without aforementioned citation.
- Allusions
- The scene where Cartman is walking through the wheat field makes reference to Gladiator when the character Maximus walks through the tall wheat of his homeland, the quote "every night the dream is the same" comes from Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
- The Mayor of Imaginationland telling Butters mockingly to click his heels three times to return home is a reference to The Wizard of Oz where the same method is used by Dorothy and Toto to return to Kansas.
- The scene of the ManBearPig emerging through the gate and attacking scientists is extremely similar to a scene in the videogame Doom 3 where two Hellknights must be defeated before the player enters the Hell level
- The scene where Cartman revives Kyle is taken from another similar resuscitation scene in the film The Abyss even using the same dialog from the movie "You never backed away from anything in your life! Now fight!".
- Butters' meeting with the Council of Nine is a direct reference to the scene in Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, where Frodo is taken to Rivendell.
- When Butters, Snarf, and the Lollipop King are fleeing through the Gumdrop Forest, the path they are using is the exact same walkway from the Candy Land boardgame.
- The table that the Council of Nine sits at is strikingly similar to the triforce from "The Legend of Zelda" series.
- The episode opens with Cartman intoning "Previously, on Battlestar Galactica," over a still of that show's logo, in the same manner that every episode of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica opens.
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
when cartman yells NOOOOOO! it is in a different voice. this was fixed in later airings —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.163.156 ( talk) 19:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Again, cite this stuff and it can remain;
Alastairward ( talk) 11:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Can we have some sort of discussion about adding in, or leaving out, a reference to the Abyss? This 'edit war' has been going on for months and months. Lots42 ( talk) 09:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
It makes perfect sense, without it you're assuming you know what the writers were thinking at the time. Check again all the policies on no original research and verifiability. Alastairward ( talk) 19:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
I think we surrender our copyright automatically when we edit wikipedia. But aside from that, all I'm asking for is a cite. Alastairward ( talk) 16:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I think you should've included the Joker in that article. He was clearly seen in this episode. -- Geekboy6 ( talk) 23:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
So, one or two people apparently have decided that this article "does not meet the general notability guideline", and have placed that tag on this article. Despite the fact that I have argued that 1). the three-part Imaginationland is a very popular story arc in the Sotuh Park series 2). It has been released on DVD, and perhaps most importantly, 3). IT WON AN EMMY AWARD, and thusly I have tried twice to remove this notability tag, because it doesn't belong. But, my efforts are reverted and I am accused of edit warring. Can we get some consensus, please, that this article IS notable, and remove the notability tag? I would also like to see the notability tag that ONE editor has put on a lot of other South Park episodes removed. He has apparently made it his life's mission to deem South Park episodes unworthy of Wikipedia articles, and one or two other editors have decided his cause is worth taking up. Personally, I'd like to see this nonsense stopped. 98.220.135.184 ( talk) 03:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)