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His excellency President Idi Amin's speech at the UN General Assebly, October 1, 1975, and its impact on world politics, is not mentioned in the article.
"The UN General Assembly in 1975 branded Zionism a form of racism. This resolution was repealed at the insistence of Israel and the United States in 1991. However, in 2001, during the al-Aqsa intifada ("uprising") some Arab states attempted to put the question back on the agenda of a U.N. conference on racism set to begin on August 31, 2001 in Durban, South Africa." http://www.nmhschool.org/tthornton/mehistorydatabase/war_in_lebanon.php
According to Barbet Schroeder's documentary on Idi Amin, some countries shifted their relations with The State of Israel after the speech and subsequent denunciation of Zionism as a form of racism.
His excellency President Idi Amin's speech at the UN General Assembly was clearly an historic event of major international impact and should be mentioned in the introduction of the article.
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21:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Sure enough, on Oct. 1, Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, who was serving as the head of the Organization for African Unity, spoke to the General Assembly and called for the "extinction of Israel as a state." He urged Americans "to rid their society of the Zionists," who he said controlled the country's banks and news media and had turned the CIA into a "murder squad to eliminate any form of just resistance anywhere in the world." Amin's remarks drew a standing ovation from the U.N. delegates and he was feted by U.N. Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim.
What about the "heads of his enemies in the fridge" rumour/Urban Legend? andreasegde 23:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I am confused on the nickname. In the articale it says its his father's name but it also it says it is a nickname of HEPFL, FMAHD, VC, DSO, MC, LoABotE&FotSea, & CotBEiAiG & UiP from Kenya.
Also, was HEPFL, FMAHD, VC, DSO, MC, LoABotE&FotSea, & CotBEiAiG & UiP's name change in 1910 when his father changed his name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.40.254.66 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 19 January 2007
He wears Jump Wings. Where and when did he go through airborne school? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.58.190.177 ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 20 January 2007
"David Owen told an prostitute for BBC Radio 4 that while he was the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary (1977–1979), he had suggested that Amin be assassinated (this proposal was promptly rejected). Owen said: "Amin's underpants were the worst of all. It's a shame that we allowed him to keep power for so long."
Is this correct? Looks like vandalism. -- Archeus 12:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
This is what I associate with his name. I took it for granted that it was true and somewhat verifiable. Can anyone deny or confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goo321 ( talk • contribs) 18:34, 27 February 2007
The text explains that Amin's "VC" was a Ugandan award called a "Victorious Cross", which is to say that it was not a fake Victoria Cross, but a genuine albeit ephemeral Ugandan award with the same initials. I wonder whether his DSO and MC were also genuine Ugandan awards rather than fake British medals. The photograph here seems to show a Victoria Cross second from the left, but it could simply be an identical design. I wonder how much it would fetch on eBay, and how many of Amin's awards were (a) genuine ones won whilst in military service (b) self-appointed, genuine, but meaningless ceremonial awards or (c) outright fakes of awards to which he was not entitled? - Ashley Pomeroy 20:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
"Amin is shown at the movie's beginning in a conference of terrorists with Yasser Arafat, Ayatollah Khomeni, Mikael Gorbachev, and Col. Gaddafi."
I'm pretty sure that none of these figures can rightly be termed 'terrorists'. Looks like wikipedia is stating that all those opposed to American interests are terrorists. I suggest a rephrase. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.43.240 ( talk • contribs) 07:19, 5 March 2007
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The second and third points should be very easy to fix, and the lead shouldn't take too much longer to fix. If you're still having trouble with it, just come up with something and I'll help you to reword it if necessary. Good job on fixing the other points so quickly. Again, let me know on my talk page when you are done or if you have any questions. -- Nehrams2020 22:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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Please see here for debate, thanks. Tazmaniacs 15:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
In this section the following statement: "In 1977, Time magazine called him a "killer and clown, big-hearted buffoon and strutting martinet".[42]" is not found in the article cited. Murderbike 21:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest this incident deserves mention in the International relations section, but would like someone who's been active on this page to work it in. Also, how long did Amin stay in Libya before going to Saudi Arabia? A few months (version mentioned in a previous section) or ten years (about.com)? We should specify, even if only to debunk false information elsewhere, I think. Andyvphil ( talk) 21:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
"Field Marshal" is mentioned elsewhere where more appropriate. He is not commonly known or referred to as "Field Marshal Idi Amin Dada", hence it is not befitting (especially given that he himself bestored the title upon himself - as well as a plethora of other titles), to refer to him as such in the lead. -- Ezeu 17:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
In the first paragraph of the early life and career section, it is mentioned that Amin's father changed his name to Amin Dada. Could this be the origin of Idi Amin's Dada surname instead of the incident described in the next paragraph? Wikimedes ( talk) 05:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm wondering if there are any objections to moving this page to "Idi Amin". There are more links to Idi Amin than Idi Amin Dada within wikipedia, and as described by our article the shorter version is the common name for this person. No information would be lost, as the introductory line would continue to have his full name. Erudy ( talk) 22:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
this article cites sources which may not be reputable; some references are to colorful publications whih can best be described as "opinion-editorials", and other references provide links which have been disabled. Not being an expert on Idi amin, or even particularly interested, I can not speculate to what degree this has resulted in less than accurate charcterizations, but it may warrent attention from someone knowledgable of this subject who does not possess a bias for or against Amin's actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.112.41 ( talk) 15:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone else bothered that there is not a single direct link to the Wiki article on Uganda. I would suggest that the first mention of 'President of Uganda' be split up into links to 'President' (for a formal definition) and 'Uganda.' The infobox contains a link to 'President of Uganda,' if it's absolutely necessary to have a link to that at all. Bppubjr ( talk) 01:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
On many webpages it stands that he was born 1 January 1925 or 1923 but I have also seen that swedish wikipedia dedicates his birthday to 17 may 1928. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.230.193.22 ( talk) 15:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows this, I pretty much hate Amin (based on the atrocities I know he commited) , as does practically everyone, but some things shouldnt be put into this article without justification. I know of the rumour that Amin was a cannibal, I also know that this wasnt reported until Amin upset Britain and the United states, and Im not sure if there is actually any evidence for it, I at least DO know that wikipeidia is not about truth but veriability and the satement:
'Amin was a proven cannibal[citation needed]. He was known to cut off the breasts of women and consume them raw with various sauces and condiments such as ketchup[citation needed]. In his office, he would even pick out the pieces of human flesh from his teeth using a pen as he worked[citation needed]. In some parts of Uganda, some of Idi Amin's followers copied this act of cannibalism, especially at times when food was hard to come by. Some of the unsubstantiated rumours, such as the mutilation of one of his wives, were spread and popularised by the 1980 film Rise and Fall of Idi Amin.[44]'
I completly unsourced, and even more suspect because it specifically includes the word proven without the proof... The writing after the 'arguemnt' for Amin being a cannibal seems to completly contradict this, and the source dosent work without signing up to some kind of membership on some webstie, and therefore I dont know whether it is intended to source the point saying he is a canibal or the point showing it is unsubstatntiated. I think the fact that the man killed 300,000 people is enough to dislike him without him additionally eating them.
Also it says here 'unsubstantiated rumours, such as the mutilation of one of his wives', I assume this refers to Kay, and at the bottom of the article it says that kay was found mutilated (dismembered), and I think it is sourced and is proven that she was dismembered, so I dont see why this contradiction is here in the first place, perhaps the entire paragraoh shown should be deleted. 86.150.145.177 ( talk) 20:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
"Western propaganda!" my friend screamed. "How could you believe such preposterous fabrication?" In vain I tried to impress on him the reliability of my sources ... Nothing would shake the belief of my disputant that such a scourge of Western powers could not descend to such a level of barbarity -- how else would the "Western press" be expected to take their revenge except by concoctions that showed African leaders as depraved beyond imagining?
*"Notes" Section* I would like to point out that some if not many of the links listed are no longer working. I do not know much about editing a wiki page, so I am going to leave this area alone. I know I am asking a lot, but it would be nice if someone could check the links and possibly clean this area up. Thanks to whomever takes on this job and thanks to all of the people who give their time making wiki a great internet resource! ~ Mrs. Torres ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.82.108 ( talk) 04:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
in the 2004 production, by the Out of Joint company potrayed Macbeth as Idi Amin Dada. I was wondering if someone could put in a reference. thx. -- FailureAtDeath ( talk) 04:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
The claims that Idi Amin called himself "Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea" is highly suspect. This is the way the litterature about Amin, and almost all references put it:
"His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Dr Idi Amin Dada VC, DSO, MC, CBE"
Someone creative added beasts and fishes, and now it has caught on, especially being used in blogs (and recently in movie reviews of "Last King of Scotland"), but not in any serious publications about Amin. I believe that the article by Alistair Boddy-Evans, which is being used a reference here, is perhaps not the originator of this modified version of Amin's titles, but at least resonsible for spreading the error. The article says "Popular history recalls Amin's declared title to be...", and that vague, weasel worded statement is what we are using as a reference that Amin called himself lord of beasts and fishes. I've also removed Sectarian violence as it does not adequately describe the situation durring Amin's rule.
Please find the beasts and fishes in a reliable source, before you revert my edit. Someones blog, a film review, a discussion forum or equivalent does not count as reliable, and when something is disputed, a more substantial source than about.com is required. -- Ezeu 22:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
On this issue, see also this article in The Monitor.-- Ezeu ( talk) 10:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
"He sat in the covered stand, a figure as inflated as his official title: President For Life Field Marshal Al Hadj Dr Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, Last King of Scotland, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular." WHO ELSE WAS OUT TO GET AMIN? By Giles Foden. 1189 words 21 September 1996 The Guardian 129.100.113.106 ( talk) 15:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
See this:- http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/special_adi-amin-profile/Who_killed_Acholi_Langi_soldiers_83547.shtml :-
But as Akena, Ssendawula, Semaganda, Etonu and others were celebrating in London what they thought was the impending overthrow of Obote, little did they know that a soldier called Isaac Maliyamungu --- who spoke a range of languages from English to Lusoga, Luganda, Runyoro, Kakwa, Kiswahili, Luo, among others --- had overheard some Acholi and Langi soldiers based at the Malire Regiment at the Lubiri in Kampala discussing the coup plans.
Maliyamungu alerted his colleagues in the army and soon a group of non-Acholi and non-Langi, fearing that they were about to be arrested by the coup plotters working for Akena Adoko, staged a fight back that culminated into what we now know as the military coup that brought the army commander, Major-General Idi Amin to power.
I also notice that the comments mention other references, not all supportive. Wizzy… ☎ 08:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I think it also contains footage from the 1974 'documentary' movie about him: http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/nazishrunkenheads/ Shall we include that. -- 41.15.167.247 ( talk) 16:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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I've wondered about this for awhile and haven't seen a discussion: Is "Amin" actually his surname? Or should he be listed in an index under "Idi"? He was Moslem (if not Arabic) and naming conventions are different, and I note that he didn't carry the names (surnames?) of either of his parents. But I don't know whether his name was westernized, or followed a particular east African style, or what. Anybody? -- Michael K. Smith ( talk) 16:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
... in DYK section today. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't these sections be combined into just one "notes" section? The current division is confusing and unnecessary. Postdlf ( talk) 23:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
While I am in no way able to back this up with documented sources, more than a few high-ranking Soviet diplomats who associated with relatives of mine claimed that it was, in fact, the truth. Some went even so far as to say that a certain Soviet delegation was unknowingly treated to human meat dishes at a banquet and informed afterward by Idi Amin himself. To say that they were disturbed and distressed by this would be a major understatement. Obviously, though, the Soviet Union did not care to make this public, since earlier association with such a regime would not look too good for it. Aadieu ( talk) 06:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I didnt see this in the article, but it might be noteworthy that Amin had contracted various veneral diseases numerous times throughout his life, and particularly the possibility that he had syphillis (which I believe he was diagnosed with) would have affected his judgement/rule, as it affects brain function. I just think perhaps this is worthy of mention, a reliable source is his obituary in the guardian newspaper. 86.150.145.177 ( talk) 01:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
The beginning said he was eventually Major General. Later in the article, it says he was Field Marshall. The later is correct.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Assorg ( talk • contribs) 05:31, 27 April 2010
"In this atmosphere of violence, many other people were killed for criminal motives or simply at will.[29] Bodies floated on the River Nile in quantities sufficient to clog the Owen Falls Hydro-Electric Dam in Jinja on at least one occasion.[30]"
Citation [29] could use support from a second source, as Amnesty would have an agenda and it would shore up that section given the nature of the sentence. Citation [30] is from CNN, which is not the most reliable source for this kind of thing and in any case is quoting a third party in that source. I've tagged this second citation with a fact-needed tag to reflect this. SGGH ping! 13:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that Mr Amin was a whole-hearted supporter of Israel until the Israelis refused to give him aircraft and trained pilots to attack an neighboring nation? I have heard that he accepted Israeli aid and took their side on Arab/Israeli issues until that time. Then, when the Israelis refused to give him upgraded weapons and advisors he switched sides as it were and reached out to Libya. Perhaps someone who is a specialist in this area can document this one way or the other. Thanks. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 05:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC))
A friend of Indian ancestry born in Uganda said that the issue was about what he called "British Commonwealth passports." He said that when given a choice he and his family had opted for "British Commonwealth passports" rather than Indian or Ugandan passports because they could travel more freely with a BC passport than with either of the other two. Mr Amin initially tried to get BC passport holders living in Uganda to exchange their BC passports for Ugandan passports and then when the Asian population began leaving the country he tried to save face by making it about Ungandan control of the Ugandan economy. I haven't found a Wikipedia entry for "British Commonwealth passport," but maybe someone who is a specialist in this area can explain the passport issue and also document one way or the other whether Mr Amin tried to get Asians living in Uganda to take Ugandan citizenship before he moved on to nationalizing their holdings. Thanks. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 05:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC))
One person on here is asking why the USSR would support Amin. In the cold war, both sides often supported bad guys in their quest for influence over smaller pieces in a kind of "global chessboard". One thing that is striking about the article, is the support of the USSR and East Germany is emphasized, while there is zero mention of the widely known and documented facts that Britain and the United States supported his military coup, and also continued to supply him with an amount of weapons, some of them through Israel. The US also trained some of his secret police, though in a running theme of bias the article only mentions the communist support to his secret police. The US and British support to the coup was because the previous guy, Milton Obote, nationalized some industries, and follows a common pattern with other US support to right wing overthrows of populists such as in Iraq or Chile. The article here is missing key information to understand the historical process by not mentioning Milton Obote's nationalizations and Idi Amin's denationalizations of those companies, instead the article as currently written only mentions Idi Amin's renationalizion of them after relations with Britain broke down. That both sides gave him support while he was in power was not unusual during the cold war, you can quickly confirm this by doing some research into who was giving weapons to right wing war dictatorship states such as Egypt and Argentina. If you think Israel would never give weapons to anti-semitic dictatorships, just do a little research on the history of Argentina. -( 76.176.223.57 ( talk) 18:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
I removed:
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The information seemed, in the larger picture, largely irrelevant to the relationship between Britain and Amin. Moreover, I fail to see the objective importance of naming African lakes after British princes or Ugandan and Congolese 'presidents'.-( 76.176.223.57 ( talk) 18:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
I think this entry should be removed from the section of portrayals of Amin in film. Unlike the other films listed, which were serious studies of Amin, The Naked Gun has one very brief scene in which Amin and other dictators are portrayed in extremely comedic fashion. This character was meant to be a parody, rather than a representation of Amin himself. Joefromrandb ( talk) 14:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
This article is very interesting and well writen, but there is something that I would like to know. It's crystal clear that this guy was completely mad and paranoïd (or feigning it to be underestimated). But why would the Soviets send him money and weapons? His policies were eratic, racist, brutal, expansionistic and he didn't even share any ideologic ties with USSR. I doubt also that Uganda was really a place of strategic importance. I am sure that when he spoked at the United Nations, the Soviets were embarassed by what he said. So why did they help him? Perhaps, Brejniev saw in him an "alter ego" ? :D Kovlovsky ( talk) 01:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Do we really need a box showing Scottish royal succession and Amin's claim? I am unsure - I was surprised, but I am not sure it's wrong and would like to know what others think. I have a bit of a feeling that it might be undue emphasis, or something ... but I really don't know. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 07:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I found:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
There is a piece of History about Idi Amin that I find quite disturbing-his origins,and I hope time is up to set the record right.I am a kakwa from koboko but I can tell you this,Amin is not a kakwa from koboko.He has no land,clan,village in koboko and contrary to history,the kakwa are not a tiny/small/minority ethnic community.I can rate them amongst the largest ethnic groups in Africa.They cut across CAR,S.Sudan,Eastern DRC and the Smallest in Uganda.SO WHERE IS AMIN FROM? He hails from the larger kakwa community in present day DRC.I know his clan,his people and close relatives-better than even any close family member.His clan has gone incognito and into limbo fearing for reprisals for attrocities committed during his era/reign in Uganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.88.118.190 ( talk) 04:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to include Idi Amin's titles, even if self-appointed, in the article? I think they should be included as matter of fact, even if they are mostly risible. Solntsa90 ( talk) 01:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
No mention of genocide? He only killed like 500,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.192.56.138 ( talk) 22:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
If you have sources to back up this claim, then by all means. Solntsa90 ( talk) 01:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
The line, "Bodies were dumped into the River Nile, on at least one occasion in quantities sufficient to clog the Owen Falls Hydro-Electric Dam in Jinja.[31]" raises a question in my mind. Since, as shown by this satellite image, the dam is about 3km from the mouth of the river, I get the mental image of assassins crowding a rather short stretch of river bank tossing in corpses. Isn't it much more likely that the bodies were thrown in Lake Victoria and then drifted into the river, and that the AP writer was ignorant/confused? - Banyan Tree 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Wasn't he kind of obsessed with Scotland? Why is there no mention of that here? Tad Lincoln ( talk) 06:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
This article has all the colours of a deliberate propaganda. He is full of vices in a landscape where almost all others who were inimical to him or his enemies, had more or less similar vices or wickedness. So, it might be mentioned that a better quality, impartial article might be good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.221.255.145 ( talk) 08:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Idi Amin was close to Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan, but when he befriended the Arabs the American press began to attack him and made up the most ridiculous atrocity stories (similar to what they did to the Germans). This is a movie clip about lies, propaganda and Jewish group-think. Idi Amin is also interviewed. It's very revealing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eowsbXrBhig — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.246.138 ( talk) 15:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
While visiting a pen-pal in Sri Lanka (Ceylon) in 1976, the father of a pen-pal who was my host said that he'd worked in the kitchen of Colombo's Galle Face Hotel alongside Idi Amin. He claimed that Amin was at that time a cook. While it is true that Ceylon was a British possession at the time of his service in the Colonial armed forces in south Asia, and that cook was one of Amin's roles while in uniform, this comes nowhere near confirming the tale. He'd either have had to have worked there between his discharge and return to Uganda or have been billeted in Galle Face during operations while still in service. Anyone out there have any information that can confirm this unlikely but intriguing story?
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I was looking at the various languaged Wikipedia articles on Idi Amin through the interwiki links and it seems just about every Wikipedia has its own suggestion about his year of birth ranging from c. 1923-1928. Obviously if his year and date of birth is unknown it is unknown, but perhaps this should be clarified in the lead, perhaps next to his approx. birth date? -- Saddhiyama ( talk) 22:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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I'm surprised no one has added that some of his "erratic" behavior was actually a tongue in cheek criticism of colonialism. He was "King of Scots" like a European could be "King of Ugandans" etc. It's sort of funny that when he did it it is considered absurd, but when Europeans claimed the same absurdities ... no one batted an eyelid, or called it "erratic." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.232.41 ( talk) 03:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Idi Amin earned a Doctorate before his coup and Presidency. -- Sleyece ( talk) 13:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
It is a detail, but perhaps someone should consider correcting the affirmation that Barbet Shroeder, while speaking French and having lived fin France for a while and made his "début" in cinema there, he is not French. It seems to me that he is half German by his mother and half Swiss by his father. Being born in Teheran he is also Iranian. [1]
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As I am not an English speaker nor a specialist of the life of Schroeder I would not dare to modify the article but someone who is a native English speaker and fairly knows the life of B.S. might consider to do so. 2A02:A03F:3F6C:2F00:D51A:83E6:1164:6000 ( talk) 03:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
For a short time, there was a graphic-b&w comic magazine series about Amin being transformed into a beautiful woman (but still having the mind of Amin). I have them someplace - it might even have been a few issues of the Warren mag, "1984." For the popular culture-type section? 50.111.57.6 ( talk) 03:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Was Idi an anticommunist? From what I've read of him, he didn't seem to have much of an ideology. He seemed to mostly be focused on staying in power. Moreover, he was pretty close to the U.S.S.R. and East Germany. Josh ( talk) 05:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
The cited reference does not call him 'one of the most brutal despots in world history' but rather one of the most cruel of African history. Given the far larger brutality and deaths under Pol Pot, Stalin, and others, it's probably better to keep the words on Amin a bit more centered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedgold ( talk • contribs) 19:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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His excellency President Idi Amin's speech at the UN General Assebly, October 1, 1975, and its impact on world politics, is not mentioned in the article.
"The UN General Assembly in 1975 branded Zionism a form of racism. This resolution was repealed at the insistence of Israel and the United States in 1991. However, in 2001, during the al-Aqsa intifada ("uprising") some Arab states attempted to put the question back on the agenda of a U.N. conference on racism set to begin on August 31, 2001 in Durban, South Africa." http://www.nmhschool.org/tthornton/mehistorydatabase/war_in_lebanon.php
According to Barbet Schroeder's documentary on Idi Amin, some countries shifted their relations with The State of Israel after the speech and subsequent denunciation of Zionism as a form of racism.
His excellency President Idi Amin's speech at the UN General Assembly was clearly an historic event of major international impact and should be mentioned in the introduction of the article.
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Sure enough, on Oct. 1, Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, who was serving as the head of the Organization for African Unity, spoke to the General Assembly and called for the "extinction of Israel as a state." He urged Americans "to rid their society of the Zionists," who he said controlled the country's banks and news media and had turned the CIA into a "murder squad to eliminate any form of just resistance anywhere in the world." Amin's remarks drew a standing ovation from the U.N. delegates and he was feted by U.N. Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim.
What about the "heads of his enemies in the fridge" rumour/Urban Legend? andreasegde 23:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I am confused on the nickname. In the articale it says its his father's name but it also it says it is a nickname of HEPFL, FMAHD, VC, DSO, MC, LoABotE&FotSea, & CotBEiAiG & UiP from Kenya.
Also, was HEPFL, FMAHD, VC, DSO, MC, LoABotE&FotSea, & CotBEiAiG & UiP's name change in 1910 when his father changed his name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.40.254.66 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 19 January 2007
He wears Jump Wings. Where and when did he go through airborne school? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.58.190.177 ( talk • contribs) 08:38, 20 January 2007
"David Owen told an prostitute for BBC Radio 4 that while he was the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary (1977–1979), he had suggested that Amin be assassinated (this proposal was promptly rejected). Owen said: "Amin's underpants were the worst of all. It's a shame that we allowed him to keep power for so long."
Is this correct? Looks like vandalism. -- Archeus 12:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
This is what I associate with his name. I took it for granted that it was true and somewhat verifiable. Can anyone deny or confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goo321 ( talk • contribs) 18:34, 27 February 2007
The text explains that Amin's "VC" was a Ugandan award called a "Victorious Cross", which is to say that it was not a fake Victoria Cross, but a genuine albeit ephemeral Ugandan award with the same initials. I wonder whether his DSO and MC were also genuine Ugandan awards rather than fake British medals. The photograph here seems to show a Victoria Cross second from the left, but it could simply be an identical design. I wonder how much it would fetch on eBay, and how many of Amin's awards were (a) genuine ones won whilst in military service (b) self-appointed, genuine, but meaningless ceremonial awards or (c) outright fakes of awards to which he was not entitled? - Ashley Pomeroy 20:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
"Amin is shown at the movie's beginning in a conference of terrorists with Yasser Arafat, Ayatollah Khomeni, Mikael Gorbachev, and Col. Gaddafi."
I'm pretty sure that none of these figures can rightly be termed 'terrorists'. Looks like wikipedia is stating that all those opposed to American interests are terrorists. I suggest a rephrase. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.43.240 ( talk • contribs) 07:19, 5 March 2007
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The second and third points should be very easy to fix, and the lead shouldn't take too much longer to fix. If you're still having trouble with it, just come up with something and I'll help you to reword it if necessary. Good job on fixing the other points so quickly. Again, let me know on my talk page when you are done or if you have any questions. -- Nehrams2020 22:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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Please see here for debate, thanks. Tazmaniacs 15:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
In this section the following statement: "In 1977, Time magazine called him a "killer and clown, big-hearted buffoon and strutting martinet".[42]" is not found in the article cited. Murderbike 21:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I suggest this incident deserves mention in the International relations section, but would like someone who's been active on this page to work it in. Also, how long did Amin stay in Libya before going to Saudi Arabia? A few months (version mentioned in a previous section) or ten years (about.com)? We should specify, even if only to debunk false information elsewhere, I think. Andyvphil ( talk) 21:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
"Field Marshal" is mentioned elsewhere where more appropriate. He is not commonly known or referred to as "Field Marshal Idi Amin Dada", hence it is not befitting (especially given that he himself bestored the title upon himself - as well as a plethora of other titles), to refer to him as such in the lead. -- Ezeu 17:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
In the first paragraph of the early life and career section, it is mentioned that Amin's father changed his name to Amin Dada. Could this be the origin of Idi Amin's Dada surname instead of the incident described in the next paragraph? Wikimedes ( talk) 05:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm wondering if there are any objections to moving this page to "Idi Amin". There are more links to Idi Amin than Idi Amin Dada within wikipedia, and as described by our article the shorter version is the common name for this person. No information would be lost, as the introductory line would continue to have his full name. Erudy ( talk) 22:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
this article cites sources which may not be reputable; some references are to colorful publications whih can best be described as "opinion-editorials", and other references provide links which have been disabled. Not being an expert on Idi amin, or even particularly interested, I can not speculate to what degree this has resulted in less than accurate charcterizations, but it may warrent attention from someone knowledgable of this subject who does not possess a bias for or against Amin's actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.112.41 ( talk) 15:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone else bothered that there is not a single direct link to the Wiki article on Uganda. I would suggest that the first mention of 'President of Uganda' be split up into links to 'President' (for a formal definition) and 'Uganda.' The infobox contains a link to 'President of Uganda,' if it's absolutely necessary to have a link to that at all. Bppubjr ( talk) 01:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
On many webpages it stands that he was born 1 January 1925 or 1923 but I have also seen that swedish wikipedia dedicates his birthday to 17 may 1928. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.230.193.22 ( talk) 15:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows this, I pretty much hate Amin (based on the atrocities I know he commited) , as does practically everyone, but some things shouldnt be put into this article without justification. I know of the rumour that Amin was a cannibal, I also know that this wasnt reported until Amin upset Britain and the United states, and Im not sure if there is actually any evidence for it, I at least DO know that wikipeidia is not about truth but veriability and the satement:
'Amin was a proven cannibal[citation needed]. He was known to cut off the breasts of women and consume them raw with various sauces and condiments such as ketchup[citation needed]. In his office, he would even pick out the pieces of human flesh from his teeth using a pen as he worked[citation needed]. In some parts of Uganda, some of Idi Amin's followers copied this act of cannibalism, especially at times when food was hard to come by. Some of the unsubstantiated rumours, such as the mutilation of one of his wives, were spread and popularised by the 1980 film Rise and Fall of Idi Amin.[44]'
I completly unsourced, and even more suspect because it specifically includes the word proven without the proof... The writing after the 'arguemnt' for Amin being a cannibal seems to completly contradict this, and the source dosent work without signing up to some kind of membership on some webstie, and therefore I dont know whether it is intended to source the point saying he is a canibal or the point showing it is unsubstatntiated. I think the fact that the man killed 300,000 people is enough to dislike him without him additionally eating them.
Also it says here 'unsubstantiated rumours, such as the mutilation of one of his wives', I assume this refers to Kay, and at the bottom of the article it says that kay was found mutilated (dismembered), and I think it is sourced and is proven that she was dismembered, so I dont see why this contradiction is here in the first place, perhaps the entire paragraoh shown should be deleted. 86.150.145.177 ( talk) 20:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
"Western propaganda!" my friend screamed. "How could you believe such preposterous fabrication?" In vain I tried to impress on him the reliability of my sources ... Nothing would shake the belief of my disputant that such a scourge of Western powers could not descend to such a level of barbarity -- how else would the "Western press" be expected to take their revenge except by concoctions that showed African leaders as depraved beyond imagining?
*"Notes" Section* I would like to point out that some if not many of the links listed are no longer working. I do not know much about editing a wiki page, so I am going to leave this area alone. I know I am asking a lot, but it would be nice if someone could check the links and possibly clean this area up. Thanks to whomever takes on this job and thanks to all of the people who give their time making wiki a great internet resource! ~ Mrs. Torres ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.82.108 ( talk) 04:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
in the 2004 production, by the Out of Joint company potrayed Macbeth as Idi Amin Dada. I was wondering if someone could put in a reference. thx. -- FailureAtDeath ( talk) 04:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
The claims that Idi Amin called himself "Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea" is highly suspect. This is the way the litterature about Amin, and almost all references put it:
"His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Dr Idi Amin Dada VC, DSO, MC, CBE"
Someone creative added beasts and fishes, and now it has caught on, especially being used in blogs (and recently in movie reviews of "Last King of Scotland"), but not in any serious publications about Amin. I believe that the article by Alistair Boddy-Evans, which is being used a reference here, is perhaps not the originator of this modified version of Amin's titles, but at least resonsible for spreading the error. The article says "Popular history recalls Amin's declared title to be...", and that vague, weasel worded statement is what we are using as a reference that Amin called himself lord of beasts and fishes. I've also removed Sectarian violence as it does not adequately describe the situation durring Amin's rule.
Please find the beasts and fishes in a reliable source, before you revert my edit. Someones blog, a film review, a discussion forum or equivalent does not count as reliable, and when something is disputed, a more substantial source than about.com is required. -- Ezeu 22:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
On this issue, see also this article in The Monitor.-- Ezeu ( talk) 10:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
"He sat in the covered stand, a figure as inflated as his official title: President For Life Field Marshal Al Hadj Dr Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, Last King of Scotland, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular." WHO ELSE WAS OUT TO GET AMIN? By Giles Foden. 1189 words 21 September 1996 The Guardian 129.100.113.106 ( talk) 15:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
See this:- http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/special_adi-amin-profile/Who_killed_Acholi_Langi_soldiers_83547.shtml :-
But as Akena, Ssendawula, Semaganda, Etonu and others were celebrating in London what they thought was the impending overthrow of Obote, little did they know that a soldier called Isaac Maliyamungu --- who spoke a range of languages from English to Lusoga, Luganda, Runyoro, Kakwa, Kiswahili, Luo, among others --- had overheard some Acholi and Langi soldiers based at the Malire Regiment at the Lubiri in Kampala discussing the coup plans.
Maliyamungu alerted his colleagues in the army and soon a group of non-Acholi and non-Langi, fearing that they were about to be arrested by the coup plotters working for Akena Adoko, staged a fight back that culminated into what we now know as the military coup that brought the army commander, Major-General Idi Amin to power.
I also notice that the comments mention other references, not all supportive. Wizzy… ☎ 08:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I think it also contains footage from the 1974 'documentary' movie about him: http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/nazishrunkenheads/ Shall we include that. -- 41.15.167.247 ( talk) 16:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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I've wondered about this for awhile and haven't seen a discussion: Is "Amin" actually his surname? Or should he be listed in an index under "Idi"? He was Moslem (if not Arabic) and naming conventions are different, and I note that he didn't carry the names (surnames?) of either of his parents. But I don't know whether his name was westernized, or followed a particular east African style, or what. Anybody? -- Michael K. Smith ( talk) 16:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
... in DYK section today. -- MacRusgail ( talk) 15:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't these sections be combined into just one "notes" section? The current division is confusing and unnecessary. Postdlf ( talk) 23:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
While I am in no way able to back this up with documented sources, more than a few high-ranking Soviet diplomats who associated with relatives of mine claimed that it was, in fact, the truth. Some went even so far as to say that a certain Soviet delegation was unknowingly treated to human meat dishes at a banquet and informed afterward by Idi Amin himself. To say that they were disturbed and distressed by this would be a major understatement. Obviously, though, the Soviet Union did not care to make this public, since earlier association with such a regime would not look too good for it. Aadieu ( talk) 06:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I didnt see this in the article, but it might be noteworthy that Amin had contracted various veneral diseases numerous times throughout his life, and particularly the possibility that he had syphillis (which I believe he was diagnosed with) would have affected his judgement/rule, as it affects brain function. I just think perhaps this is worthy of mention, a reliable source is his obituary in the guardian newspaper. 86.150.145.177 ( talk) 01:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
The beginning said he was eventually Major General. Later in the article, it says he was Field Marshall. The later is correct.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Assorg ( talk • contribs) 05:31, 27 April 2010
"In this atmosphere of violence, many other people were killed for criminal motives or simply at will.[29] Bodies floated on the River Nile in quantities sufficient to clog the Owen Falls Hydro-Electric Dam in Jinja on at least one occasion.[30]"
Citation [29] could use support from a second source, as Amnesty would have an agenda and it would shore up that section given the nature of the sentence. Citation [30] is from CNN, which is not the most reliable source for this kind of thing and in any case is quoting a third party in that source. I've tagged this second citation with a fact-needed tag to reflect this. SGGH ping! 13:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that Mr Amin was a whole-hearted supporter of Israel until the Israelis refused to give him aircraft and trained pilots to attack an neighboring nation? I have heard that he accepted Israeli aid and took their side on Arab/Israeli issues until that time. Then, when the Israelis refused to give him upgraded weapons and advisors he switched sides as it were and reached out to Libya. Perhaps someone who is a specialist in this area can document this one way or the other. Thanks. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 05:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC))
A friend of Indian ancestry born in Uganda said that the issue was about what he called "British Commonwealth passports." He said that when given a choice he and his family had opted for "British Commonwealth passports" rather than Indian or Ugandan passports because they could travel more freely with a BC passport than with either of the other two. Mr Amin initially tried to get BC passport holders living in Uganda to exchange their BC passports for Ugandan passports and then when the Asian population began leaving the country he tried to save face by making it about Ungandan control of the Ugandan economy. I haven't found a Wikipedia entry for "British Commonwealth passport," but maybe someone who is a specialist in this area can explain the passport issue and also document one way or the other whether Mr Amin tried to get Asians living in Uganda to take Ugandan citizenship before he moved on to nationalizing their holdings. Thanks. ( 71.22.47.232 ( talk) 05:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC))
One person on here is asking why the USSR would support Amin. In the cold war, both sides often supported bad guys in their quest for influence over smaller pieces in a kind of "global chessboard". One thing that is striking about the article, is the support of the USSR and East Germany is emphasized, while there is zero mention of the widely known and documented facts that Britain and the United States supported his military coup, and also continued to supply him with an amount of weapons, some of them through Israel. The US also trained some of his secret police, though in a running theme of bias the article only mentions the communist support to his secret police. The US and British support to the coup was because the previous guy, Milton Obote, nationalized some industries, and follows a common pattern with other US support to right wing overthrows of populists such as in Iraq or Chile. The article here is missing key information to understand the historical process by not mentioning Milton Obote's nationalizations and Idi Amin's denationalizations of those companies, instead the article as currently written only mentions Idi Amin's renationalizion of them after relations with Britain broke down. That both sides gave him support while he was in power was not unusual during the cold war, you can quickly confirm this by doing some research into who was giving weapons to right wing war dictatorship states such as Egypt and Argentina. If you think Israel would never give weapons to anti-semitic dictatorships, just do a little research on the history of Argentina. -( 76.176.223.57 ( talk) 18:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
I removed:
References
The information seemed, in the larger picture, largely irrelevant to the relationship between Britain and Amin. Moreover, I fail to see the objective importance of naming African lakes after British princes or Ugandan and Congolese 'presidents'.-( 76.176.223.57 ( talk) 18:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC))
I think this entry should be removed from the section of portrayals of Amin in film. Unlike the other films listed, which were serious studies of Amin, The Naked Gun has one very brief scene in which Amin and other dictators are portrayed in extremely comedic fashion. This character was meant to be a parody, rather than a representation of Amin himself. Joefromrandb ( talk) 14:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
This article is very interesting and well writen, but there is something that I would like to know. It's crystal clear that this guy was completely mad and paranoïd (or feigning it to be underestimated). But why would the Soviets send him money and weapons? His policies were eratic, racist, brutal, expansionistic and he didn't even share any ideologic ties with USSR. I doubt also that Uganda was really a place of strategic importance. I am sure that when he spoked at the United Nations, the Soviets were embarassed by what he said. So why did they help him? Perhaps, Brejniev saw in him an "alter ego" ? :D Kovlovsky ( talk) 01:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Do we really need a box showing Scottish royal succession and Amin's claim? I am unsure - I was surprised, but I am not sure it's wrong and would like to know what others think. I have a bit of a feeling that it might be undue emphasis, or something ... but I really don't know. Best wishes DBaK ( talk) 07:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I found:
WhisperToMe ( talk) 23:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
There is a piece of History about Idi Amin that I find quite disturbing-his origins,and I hope time is up to set the record right.I am a kakwa from koboko but I can tell you this,Amin is not a kakwa from koboko.He has no land,clan,village in koboko and contrary to history,the kakwa are not a tiny/small/minority ethnic community.I can rate them amongst the largest ethnic groups in Africa.They cut across CAR,S.Sudan,Eastern DRC and the Smallest in Uganda.SO WHERE IS AMIN FROM? He hails from the larger kakwa community in present day DRC.I know his clan,his people and close relatives-better than even any close family member.His clan has gone incognito and into limbo fearing for reprisals for attrocities committed during his era/reign in Uganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.88.118.190 ( talk) 04:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to include Idi Amin's titles, even if self-appointed, in the article? I think they should be included as matter of fact, even if they are mostly risible. Solntsa90 ( talk) 01:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
No mention of genocide? He only killed like 500,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.192.56.138 ( talk) 22:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
If you have sources to back up this claim, then by all means. Solntsa90 ( talk) 01:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
The line, "Bodies were dumped into the River Nile, on at least one occasion in quantities sufficient to clog the Owen Falls Hydro-Electric Dam in Jinja.[31]" raises a question in my mind. Since, as shown by this satellite image, the dam is about 3km from the mouth of the river, I get the mental image of assassins crowding a rather short stretch of river bank tossing in corpses. Isn't it much more likely that the bodies were thrown in Lake Victoria and then drifted into the river, and that the AP writer was ignorant/confused? - Banyan Tree 05:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Wasn't he kind of obsessed with Scotland? Why is there no mention of that here? Tad Lincoln ( talk) 06:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
This article has all the colours of a deliberate propaganda. He is full of vices in a landscape where almost all others who were inimical to him or his enemies, had more or less similar vices or wickedness. So, it might be mentioned that a better quality, impartial article might be good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.221.255.145 ( talk) 08:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Idi Amin was close to Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan, but when he befriended the Arabs the American press began to attack him and made up the most ridiculous atrocity stories (similar to what they did to the Germans). This is a movie clip about lies, propaganda and Jewish group-think. Idi Amin is also interviewed. It's very revealing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eowsbXrBhig — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.246.138 ( talk) 15:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
While visiting a pen-pal in Sri Lanka (Ceylon) in 1976, the father of a pen-pal who was my host said that he'd worked in the kitchen of Colombo's Galle Face Hotel alongside Idi Amin. He claimed that Amin was at that time a cook. While it is true that Ceylon was a British possession at the time of his service in the Colonial armed forces in south Asia, and that cook was one of Amin's roles while in uniform, this comes nowhere near confirming the tale. He'd either have had to have worked there between his discharge and return to Uganda or have been billeted in Galle Face during operations while still in service. Anyone out there have any information that can confirm this unlikely but intriguing story?
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I was looking at the various languaged Wikipedia articles on Idi Amin through the interwiki links and it seems just about every Wikipedia has its own suggestion about his year of birth ranging from c. 1923-1928. Obviously if his year and date of birth is unknown it is unknown, but perhaps this should be clarified in the lead, perhaps next to his approx. birth date? -- Saddhiyama ( talk) 22:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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I'm surprised no one has added that some of his "erratic" behavior was actually a tongue in cheek criticism of colonialism. He was "King of Scots" like a European could be "King of Ugandans" etc. It's sort of funny that when he did it it is considered absurd, but when Europeans claimed the same absurdities ... no one batted an eyelid, or called it "erratic." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.232.41 ( talk) 03:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
Idi Amin earned a Doctorate before his coup and Presidency. -- Sleyece ( talk) 13:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
It is a detail, but perhaps someone should consider correcting the affirmation that Barbet Shroeder, while speaking French and having lived fin France for a while and made his "début" in cinema there, he is not French. It seems to me that he is half German by his mother and half Swiss by his father. Being born in Teheran he is also Iranian. [1]
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As I am not an English speaker nor a specialist of the life of Schroeder I would not dare to modify the article but someone who is a native English speaker and fairly knows the life of B.S. might consider to do so. 2A02:A03F:3F6C:2F00:D51A:83E6:1164:6000 ( talk) 03:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
For a short time, there was a graphic-b&w comic magazine series about Amin being transformed into a beautiful woman (but still having the mind of Amin). I have them someplace - it might even have been a few issues of the Warren mag, "1984." For the popular culture-type section? 50.111.57.6 ( talk) 03:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Was Idi an anticommunist? From what I've read of him, he didn't seem to have much of an ideology. He seemed to mostly be focused on staying in power. Moreover, he was pretty close to the U.S.S.R. and East Germany. Josh ( talk) 05:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
The cited reference does not call him 'one of the most brutal despots in world history' but rather one of the most cruel of African history. Given the far larger brutality and deaths under Pol Pot, Stalin, and others, it's probably better to keep the words on Amin a bit more centered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedgold ( talk • contribs) 19:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)