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I replaced the previous collection of pictures of Ólafur Ragnar, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, Jón Sigurðsson and the beauty queen, with the current composite picture, which is based i style on what is practiced on the other related ethnicity pages. Compared to what was previously displayed I believe this is a more diverse and fuller display of the Icelanders within the constrains of what images are available on wikipedia. Not only do we now have people with other haircolours than white, but also not predominantly current politicians. - Kjallakr ( talk) 14:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, this is more diverse, I suppose. But last time I checked, there were pictures of Baltasar Kormákur and Eiður Smári Guðjónsen. It would be more diverse if there were still pictures of them. (seeing that there are curently no pictures of directors or athletes) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.179.234 ( talk) 00:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason this is at "Icelanders", and not Icelandic people? The latter seems to be the usual name for such articles... Shimgray | talk | 21:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed a phrase which insisted that "in the contrary of other Europeans, the Icelanders are genetically highly homegenous. This utter false, and on the contrary Iceland is genetically one of the most heterogenous ethnicities in Europe. This despite the geographical isolation. I will add sources later. Podomi ( talk) 16:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, of course, everyone's Celtic if they're from Europe. As per Bryan Sykes' research Icelanders are of half Gaelic ancestry. 188.124.93.223 ( talk) 03:26, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 17:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
In the article History of Iceland we find this: "Though geographically removed from Europe, Iceland was never isolated. Mariners from many nations (though mostly from Scandinavia, France, Germany and England) came to call and trade at Iceland's ports throughout the Middle Ages and early modern period."
And in this article we find this: "Due to the isolated location of Iceland, the immigration and genetic inflow was limited in its indigenous population for hundreds of years; thus the population was considered to be highly homogeneous in terms of its genes."
Isn't this rather contradictory? Plus the was in that last sentence - if that was the view, what is then the current view? -- 85.220.81.19 23:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I would like to see some sources for the number of Icelanders cited -- e.g. 75 thous in Canada, 50 thous. in the US, 15 thous. in Denmark etc. -- Palthrow 19:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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The section About Iceland is quite seriously flawed, in my opinion. For the first thing it's about history, which is covered specially in the following section, secondly (and more seriously) it puts forward a very strange and controversial understanding of that history, extremely critical of foreign rule and representative of public opinion in the years following independence but not generally accepted by modern scholarship. If nobody objects I'll remove the section. -- Sterio ( talk) 21:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Except for Ireland, no other European country lost over half its population in one single period of time than Iceland when the volcanic eruptions of 1783 devastated the island's agricultural food supply and caused a famine to wiped out nearly a third to a half (100,000?) of the Icelandic population. As a result, about 100,000 Icelanders fled the famine and in destitution relocated to the European continent (esp. Scandinavia and the Netherlands) and the British Isles, but myth has it a sizable percentage were invited to settle in the American colonies (the USA and Canada), Portuguese colonies like the Azores, and Spanish territories of Argentina. It took 150-160 years (until 1944?) for Iceland to recover its' pre-1783 population and their demand for autonomy from Swedish or Danish authorities whom neglected them for so long is no wonder the Icelander exodus had taken place. + 71.102.11.193 ( talk) 01:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
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The narrow-mindedness of this passage is almost impossible to fathom, begs description and is generally beyond understanding. If it is to believed, Icelandic literature ceased to exist in the 14. century. We fortunately have over 600 years of often great writing after that to prove otherwise. Would someone with time on their hands please add a few words? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.126.72 ( talk) 20:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
In the religious category of the infobox it mentions the word secular. What is meant by that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.50.21 ( talk) 17:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Silvia Night should be removed and Of Monsters and Men added. Silvia Night is long over and never really began. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.209.229.23 ( talk) 22:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Should the article be moved to "Icelandic people"? This sounds like a less ambiguous title than the current one (Icelanders). Epicgenius( talk to me • see my contributions) 00:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. TravisRade ( talk) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Isn't 450,000 a bit of an exaggeration?? It is not corroborated anywhere else in the text and the number itself is not sourced. Adding all the numbers in the table up it comes out to a little over 330,000. 120,000 or more might not seem like a lot when we're talking Germans or Japanese, which number 10s of millions, but it is when it comes to Icelanders. 120,000 would be almost another Reykjavík. 141.138.38.105 ( talk) 17:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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Please can someone move the article to Icelandic (ethnic group) rather than Icelanders. Icelanders is not the official name for the ethnic group it’s just colloquial.
It would only take one or two celtic couples to greatly skew the genetics of Icelanders toward celtic. In a place that does not have contraception, celtic women would keep on having kids and would not stop until they hit menopause. Germanic women are much less aggressive at having kids than celtic women. The amount of celtic people who ever lived in Iceland with Germanic people may have only been like four celtic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.45.9.162 ( talk) 07:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
@ Rosenborg BK Fan: I removed the mention of Norn from the lead again for two reasons: According to MOS:LEAD the lead should summarize the article, and Norn is not mentioned in the body. Also: This is not the article about Icelandic language, so I think Norn is just not important enough for our article to be mentioned in the lead. Rsk6400 ( talk) 18:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Having some experience with Rosenborg BK Fan, I took a look at their recent edits at other articles. I have the feeling that some of their edits are OK, but many are poorly done and that they changed things just for the sake of changing. Since this article has been a "good article" since 2008, I returned to the version before Rosenborg's first edit. But of course, other users are free to restore according to their own judgement. Rsk6400 ( talk) 08:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
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I replaced the previous collection of pictures of Ólafur Ragnar, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, Jón Sigurðsson and the beauty queen, with the current composite picture, which is based i style on what is practiced on the other related ethnicity pages. Compared to what was previously displayed I believe this is a more diverse and fuller display of the Icelanders within the constrains of what images are available on wikipedia. Not only do we now have people with other haircolours than white, but also not predominantly current politicians. - Kjallakr ( talk) 14:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, this is more diverse, I suppose. But last time I checked, there were pictures of Baltasar Kormákur and Eiður Smári Guðjónsen. It would be more diverse if there were still pictures of them. (seeing that there are curently no pictures of directors or athletes) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.179.234 ( talk) 00:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there any particular reason this is at "Icelanders", and not Icelandic people? The latter seems to be the usual name for such articles... Shimgray | talk | 21:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed a phrase which insisted that "in the contrary of other Europeans, the Icelanders are genetically highly homegenous. This utter false, and on the contrary Iceland is genetically one of the most heterogenous ethnicities in Europe. This despite the geographical isolation. I will add sources later. Podomi ( talk) 16:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, of course, everyone's Celtic if they're from Europe. As per Bryan Sykes' research Icelanders are of half Gaelic ancestry. 188.124.93.223 ( talk) 03:26, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 17:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
In the article History of Iceland we find this: "Though geographically removed from Europe, Iceland was never isolated. Mariners from many nations (though mostly from Scandinavia, France, Germany and England) came to call and trade at Iceland's ports throughout the Middle Ages and early modern period."
And in this article we find this: "Due to the isolated location of Iceland, the immigration and genetic inflow was limited in its indigenous population for hundreds of years; thus the population was considered to be highly homogeneous in terms of its genes."
Isn't this rather contradictory? Plus the was in that last sentence - if that was the view, what is then the current view? -- 85.220.81.19 23:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I would like to see some sources for the number of Icelanders cited -- e.g. 75 thous in Canada, 50 thous. in the US, 15 thous. in Denmark etc. -- Palthrow 19:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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The section About Iceland is quite seriously flawed, in my opinion. For the first thing it's about history, which is covered specially in the following section, secondly (and more seriously) it puts forward a very strange and controversial understanding of that history, extremely critical of foreign rule and representative of public opinion in the years following independence but not generally accepted by modern scholarship. If nobody objects I'll remove the section. -- Sterio ( talk) 21:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Except for Ireland, no other European country lost over half its population in one single period of time than Iceland when the volcanic eruptions of 1783 devastated the island's agricultural food supply and caused a famine to wiped out nearly a third to a half (100,000?) of the Icelandic population. As a result, about 100,000 Icelanders fled the famine and in destitution relocated to the European continent (esp. Scandinavia and the Netherlands) and the British Isles, but myth has it a sizable percentage were invited to settle in the American colonies (the USA and Canada), Portuguese colonies like the Azores, and Spanish territories of Argentina. It took 150-160 years (until 1944?) for Iceland to recover its' pre-1783 population and their demand for autonomy from Swedish or Danish authorities whom neglected them for so long is no wonder the Icelander exodus had taken place. + 71.102.11.193 ( talk) 01:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
From the article:
The narrow-mindedness of this passage is almost impossible to fathom, begs description and is generally beyond understanding. If it is to believed, Icelandic literature ceased to exist in the 14. century. We fortunately have over 600 years of often great writing after that to prove otherwise. Would someone with time on their hands please add a few words? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.126.72 ( talk) 20:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
In the religious category of the infobox it mentions the word secular. What is meant by that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.50.21 ( talk) 17:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Silvia Night should be removed and Of Monsters and Men added. Silvia Night is long over and never really began. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.209.229.23 ( talk) 22:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Should the article be moved to "Icelandic people"? This sounds like a less ambiguous title than the current one (Icelanders). Epicgenius( talk to me • see my contributions) 00:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. TravisRade ( talk) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Isn't 450,000 a bit of an exaggeration?? It is not corroborated anywhere else in the text and the number itself is not sourced. Adding all the numbers in the table up it comes out to a little over 330,000. 120,000 or more might not seem like a lot when we're talking Germans or Japanese, which number 10s of millions, but it is when it comes to Icelanders. 120,000 would be almost another Reykjavík. 141.138.38.105 ( talk) 17:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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Please can someone move the article to Icelandic (ethnic group) rather than Icelanders. Icelanders is not the official name for the ethnic group it’s just colloquial.
It would only take one or two celtic couples to greatly skew the genetics of Icelanders toward celtic. In a place that does not have contraception, celtic women would keep on having kids and would not stop until they hit menopause. Germanic women are much less aggressive at having kids than celtic women. The amount of celtic people who ever lived in Iceland with Germanic people may have only been like four celtic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.45.9.162 ( talk) 07:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
@ Rosenborg BK Fan: I removed the mention of Norn from the lead again for two reasons: According to MOS:LEAD the lead should summarize the article, and Norn is not mentioned in the body. Also: This is not the article about Icelandic language, so I think Norn is just not important enough for our article to be mentioned in the lead. Rsk6400 ( talk) 18:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Having some experience with Rosenborg BK Fan, I took a look at their recent edits at other articles. I have the feeling that some of their edits are OK, but many are poorly done and that they changed things just for the sake of changing. Since this article has been a "good article" since 2008, I returned to the version before Rosenborg's first edit. But of course, other users are free to restore according to their own judgement. Rsk6400 ( talk) 08:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)