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Ialysa (mythology):
Ialysus, a
Libyan princess as a daughter of King
Danaus, who was worshipped on the island of Rhodes. Principally, she was venerated in Ialysos, which was named after her.
with "Ialysus" changed to "Ialysa" (female ending). Based on the following discussion at
Talk:Ialysa (mythology) that article was susequently deleted:
Untitled
This article is from the page Ialysos (mythology) and I create a new page which is more appropriate for this one. I don't know what is the source of @Tucci528 in creating this page back then. Can you help me figure this one out
Paul August. Thank you! — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Markx121993 (
talk •
contribs) 21:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Markx121993: I've looked at several general sources and the only one which mentions an "Ialysa" is
Robert Graves's The Greek Myths, however Graves is unfortunately not a particularly reliable source. Graves says (p. 200, 60.d) that the three cities, Lindus, Ialysus, and Cameirus, on the Island of
Rhodes, were named after three
Danaids (daughters of
Danaus). I think his only ancient source for this is
Strabo,
14.2.8 (which he cites) which says:
"After the Telchines, the Heliadae, according to the mythical story, took possession of the island; and to one of these, Cercaphus, and to his wife Cydippe, were born children who founded the cities that are named after them, 'Lindus, Ialysus, and Cameirus white with chalk.' But some say that Tlepolemus founded them and gave them the same names as those of certain daughters of Danäus.
Graves goes on to assume that the names of the daughters would have been "Linda, Cameira and Ialysa" (giving the city names feminine endings). But as I say no ancient source (that I can find) names them as such. And in particular I can find no source that says that Ialysa was "worshiped on the island of Rhodes". I think all that is mere speculation by somebody based upon the mere fact the city was supposedly named after her. So I think we should delete this article, since it can't be sourced. Unless you object I will go ahead and delete it.
Paul August☎ 15:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Markx121993: So do you object if I delete the article? Please respond.
Paul August☎ 17:13, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree with you to delete this article about Ialysa because of the lack substantial ancient reference. Thank you!
Markx121993 (
talk) 17:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply
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The following content was removed from this article (by
this edit), to it's own article:
Ialysa (mythology):
Ialysus, a
Libyan princess as a daughter of King
Danaus, who was worshipped on the island of Rhodes. Principally, she was venerated in Ialysos, which was named after her.
with "Ialysus" changed to "Ialysa" (female ending). Based on the following discussion at
Talk:Ialysa (mythology) that article was susequently deleted:
Untitled
This article is from the page Ialysos (mythology) and I create a new page which is more appropriate for this one. I don't know what is the source of @Tucci528 in creating this page back then. Can you help me figure this one out
Paul August. Thank you! — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Markx121993 (
talk •
contribs) 21:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Markx121993: I've looked at several general sources and the only one which mentions an "Ialysa" is
Robert Graves's The Greek Myths, however Graves is unfortunately not a particularly reliable source. Graves says (p. 200, 60.d) that the three cities, Lindus, Ialysus, and Cameirus, on the Island of
Rhodes, were named after three
Danaids (daughters of
Danaus). I think his only ancient source for this is
Strabo,
14.2.8 (which he cites) which says:
"After the Telchines, the Heliadae, according to the mythical story, took possession of the island; and to one of these, Cercaphus, and to his wife Cydippe, were born children who founded the cities that are named after them, 'Lindus, Ialysus, and Cameirus white with chalk.' But some say that Tlepolemus founded them and gave them the same names as those of certain daughters of Danäus.
Graves goes on to assume that the names of the daughters would have been "Linda, Cameira and Ialysa" (giving the city names feminine endings). But as I say no ancient source (that I can find) names them as such. And in particular I can find no source that says that Ialysa was "worshiped on the island of Rhodes". I think all that is mere speculation by somebody based upon the mere fact the city was supposedly named after her. So I think we should delete this article, since it can't be sourced. Unless you object I will go ahead and delete it.
Paul August☎ 15:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Markx121993: So do you object if I delete the article? Please respond.
Paul August☎ 17:13, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply
I agree with you to delete this article about Ialysa because of the lack substantial ancient reference. Thank you!
Markx121993 (
talk) 17:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)reply