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Should we not refer to the iPhone X as the 12th generation iPhone and have it as the iPhone 8 (and iPhone 8 Plus) successor?. Number wise 8 and 10 follow each other and even Apple themselves are saying the iPhone X is a "next generation iPhone". To have the iPhone X on the same generation and "related" to the iPhone 8 is daft as it's a comletely NEW device. Superdry19 ( talk) 02:31, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
@Superdry19 Why though? All they changed was the design and face I'd really, inside they're almost the same phone and use the same parts. They both had the 11th generation processor and they both had the 11th generation OS. 12th generation would be the XS, XS Max and XR. Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 07:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes an iphone x is an "phablet-sized" phone but is not a phablet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.239.146 ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Darius robin: -- Panam2014 ( talk) 18:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC) @ Natureium: please stop the obstruction. Apple's opinion is a primary source, so reliable secondary source said that it is a phablet. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 18:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Natureium: stop now, it is very ridiculous. ANI is the right place for your constant disruptive behavior, but if you want to find it, you can find some willing. Obstruction is a disruptive behavior like the wild accusations of your comrade. Accusing a contributor abusively of personal attack and disruptive editing is a disruptive behavior. Threatening to make an ANI is not a constructive attitude. For the rest, you have not given a valid argument to reject content from quality sources and in the end you leave the discussion to obstruct it. I no longer violate the 3RR so I have not breached any rule now. Talk page is not for obstruction. Finally, it's off topic but seen that you mention it: I was blocked 3 days in 3 years, and him for 3 days in 1 year. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 16:01, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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The chassis is made of stainless steel - not the front and back. And glass doesn't cover the 'aluminium', it covers the previously mentioned stainless steel. 122.107.239.239 ( talk) 10:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
A good amount of reliable sources have been reporting on how breakable the new phone is. The issue has been reported on here, here,and here, amongst other places throughout the internet. Is it worth adding this info to the page? Where would it be most appropriate to put information like this in the article, if at all? Comatmebro ( talk) 22:06, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Hey everybody! So, first off, a copy of my edit summary: "Inappropriate use of "the" in "the iPhone". We hear "phone" and think "the" should be applied for proper grammar, as you would say "Use the phone", but it's a proper noun and "the" isn't correct. "Use Microsoft Office" is another example". Secondly, please see the Wikipedia policy on the matter. LocalNet ( talk) 18:19, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Darius robin is determined [1] [2] to keep the "showcase futuristic technologies" language in the article lead. This is not appropriate for the voice of Wikipedia and contravenes MOS:PUFF. It is best omitted entirely as we cannot even say these listed technologies are new, or emerging. —DIYeditor ( talk) 15:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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. I don't see how the OSE essay quite applies and them being new to iPhone doesn't make them futuristic. OLED displays have been in phones since 2008. This
[3] is even worse, now we are outright saying that Apple has futuristic technologies.
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Cozinsky added and Hayman30 reverted [4] mention of a "green line" issue which was cited to two sources, on the basis that it is not widespread. To me if it is notable enough for multiple news articles it is notable enough for this article. Omitting it strikes me as possibly whitewashing. In a quick search I found actually quite a number of mentions of this. Whether or not it is "widespread", it is receiving coverage. —DIYeditor ( talk) 10:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
I tried adding File:IPhone X dots projection for Face ID (224631).jpg, with "thumb left" stuff added, but it always ends up pushing the timeline of models template no matter where I place the image, even if in the History section. Help! Qwertyxp2000 ( talk | contribs) 00:57, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
The Face ID privacy concerns should be on the Face ID page because we are talking about the phone in general, not just Face ID. Too much text on the lead is about Face ID privacy concerns. Itsquietuptown ( talk) 12:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Marketing professor here. I dont usually contribute to Wikipedia, so I dont know the etiquette, therefore excuse any protocols I might be overlooking. I specifically work with pricing, and I can assure you that the prices of the iPhone in different markets has nothing to do with "local sales and import taxes." Prices merely reflect how much Apple thinks people are willing to pay. You perfect example of Canada vs the U.S. clearly showcases this. Both countries are part of NAFTA, the North American trade agreement. Products can move freely between the regions, and in any case, all iPhones are produced in China. Anyone saying price differentials are a result of import tariffs or cost of shipping is only trying to justify the higher prices (wherever they are). Prices are almost always purely determined by demand. Cost has a minimal role. The only time cost really matters is if you are selling commodity products like potatoes and tomatoes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.112.65.30 ( talk) 22:26, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Why is there such a large section regarding Face ID privacy and general concerns in the introductory section to this article? A lot of the information presented, including, but not limited to, an (un-cited) 'hacking incident,' seems to belong in the body of the article. zfJames ( talk) 18:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
There is evidence that an iPhone X Rev B was released in April 2018 with fixes to NFC chip in Japan and China due to some issues with services that required a specific revision to the NFC chip. The main issues were with Suica payment in Japan and NFC and Atadistance did a lot of documentation on the issue and Apple releasing a fixed iPhone X for affected users. The Rev B has a vastly improved NFC chip over the original production of the iPhone X. Anyone want to write up a quick summary of the issue and post it here for the iPhone X?
https://atadistance.net/2018/09/10/the-apple-internal-support-doc-for-iphone-x-nfc-issue-and-meaning/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gh0sti100 ( talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
>> I have covered the iPhone X Suica NFC problem from the beginning and would be happy to write a simple summary. Do you want me to post it here for peer review first or edit it directly into the iPhone X page? Thx VelvetJ ( talk) 07:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
>> I would suggest the following correction: After releasing the iPhone X in Japan users who used Apple Pay Suica Express Transit card had issues with transit gate errors. This same issue was later reported in China for Beijing and Shanghai Express Transit Cards after Apple Pay support was added for those cards in iOS 11.3. The iPhone 8 did not see this similar problem and only affected early iPhone X production models. Apple released a revision in April 2018, Rev B that solved NFC errors and double reads on transit gates or store readers on a regular basis: on average 1 out of 3 NFC attempts would fail. This affected users in America as well. [104] — Preceding unsigned comment added by VelvetJ ( talk • contribs) 09:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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It says that the X is a 12th generation iPhone but it isn't. I've tried changing it to 11th but I can't find the specific point where it says 12th in the edit section. Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 07:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
It’s been done! Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 15:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
See
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What infobox image should be used? 17:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
The current picture of the iPhone is a vector illustration of just the front side (see Option 1). Though, I wanted to change it to Option 2 (below).
So, I changed it. But
Ghostofakina reverted it because all the other iPhone pages show the front only. Not saying I'm mad for this, but in my opinion, it should be changed to Option 2 (below) to highlight the fact that the cameras and the back's material have also changed with the iPhone X compared to the iPhone 7. Though, there are no pictures in the article at the moment to show the new back.
I only want to establish consensus to decide what picture we should use to prevent edit wars in the future regarding this.
Thanks, 🔥 Jala peño🔥 07:59, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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Should we not refer to the iPhone X as the 12th generation iPhone and have it as the iPhone 8 (and iPhone 8 Plus) successor?. Number wise 8 and 10 follow each other and even Apple themselves are saying the iPhone X is a "next generation iPhone". To have the iPhone X on the same generation and "related" to the iPhone 8 is daft as it's a comletely NEW device. Superdry19 ( talk) 02:31, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
@Superdry19 Why though? All they changed was the design and face I'd really, inside they're almost the same phone and use the same parts. They both had the 11th generation processor and they both had the 11th generation OS. 12th generation would be the XS, XS Max and XR. Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 07:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes an iphone x is an "phablet-sized" phone but is not a phablet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.9.239.146 ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Darius robin: -- Panam2014 ( talk) 18:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC) @ Natureium: please stop the obstruction. Apple's opinion is a primary source, so reliable secondary source said that it is a phablet. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 18:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@ Natureium: stop now, it is very ridiculous. ANI is the right place for your constant disruptive behavior, but if you want to find it, you can find some willing. Obstruction is a disruptive behavior like the wild accusations of your comrade. Accusing a contributor abusively of personal attack and disruptive editing is a disruptive behavior. Threatening to make an ANI is not a constructive attitude. For the rest, you have not given a valid argument to reject content from quality sources and in the end you leave the discussion to obstruct it. I no longer violate the 3RR so I have not breached any rule now. Talk page is not for obstruction. Finally, it's off topic but seen that you mention it: I was blocked 3 days in 3 years, and him for 3 days in 1 year. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 16:01, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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The chassis is made of stainless steel - not the front and back. And glass doesn't cover the 'aluminium', it covers the previously mentioned stainless steel. 122.107.239.239 ( talk) 10:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
A good amount of reliable sources have been reporting on how breakable the new phone is. The issue has been reported on here, here,and here, amongst other places throughout the internet. Is it worth adding this info to the page? Where would it be most appropriate to put information like this in the article, if at all? Comatmebro ( talk) 22:06, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Hey everybody! So, first off, a copy of my edit summary: "Inappropriate use of "the" in "the iPhone". We hear "phone" and think "the" should be applied for proper grammar, as you would say "Use the phone", but it's a proper noun and "the" isn't correct. "Use Microsoft Office" is another example". Secondly, please see the Wikipedia policy on the matter. LocalNet ( talk) 18:19, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Darius robin is determined [1] [2] to keep the "showcase futuristic technologies" language in the article lead. This is not appropriate for the voice of Wikipedia and contravenes MOS:PUFF. It is best omitted entirely as we cannot even say these listed technologies are new, or emerging. —DIYeditor ( talk) 15:21, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
{{
editconflict}}
. I don't see how the OSE essay quite applies and them being new to iPhone doesn't make them futuristic. OLED displays have been in phones since 2008. This
[3] is even worse, now we are outright saying that Apple has futuristic technologies.
—DIYeditor (
talk) 15:41, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Cozinsky added and Hayman30 reverted [4] mention of a "green line" issue which was cited to two sources, on the basis that it is not widespread. To me if it is notable enough for multiple news articles it is notable enough for this article. Omitting it strikes me as possibly whitewashing. In a quick search I found actually quite a number of mentions of this. Whether or not it is "widespread", it is receiving coverage. —DIYeditor ( talk) 10:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
I tried adding File:IPhone X dots projection for Face ID (224631).jpg, with "thumb left" stuff added, but it always ends up pushing the timeline of models template no matter where I place the image, even if in the History section. Help! Qwertyxp2000 ( talk | contribs) 00:57, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
The Face ID privacy concerns should be on the Face ID page because we are talking about the phone in general, not just Face ID. Too much text on the lead is about Face ID privacy concerns. Itsquietuptown ( talk) 12:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Marketing professor here. I dont usually contribute to Wikipedia, so I dont know the etiquette, therefore excuse any protocols I might be overlooking. I specifically work with pricing, and I can assure you that the prices of the iPhone in different markets has nothing to do with "local sales and import taxes." Prices merely reflect how much Apple thinks people are willing to pay. You perfect example of Canada vs the U.S. clearly showcases this. Both countries are part of NAFTA, the North American trade agreement. Products can move freely between the regions, and in any case, all iPhones are produced in China. Anyone saying price differentials are a result of import tariffs or cost of shipping is only trying to justify the higher prices (wherever they are). Prices are almost always purely determined by demand. Cost has a minimal role. The only time cost really matters is if you are selling commodity products like potatoes and tomatoes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.112.65.30 ( talk) 22:26, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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207.177.124.233 ( talk) 19:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Why is there such a large section regarding Face ID privacy and general concerns in the introductory section to this article? A lot of the information presented, including, but not limited to, an (un-cited) 'hacking incident,' seems to belong in the body of the article. zfJames ( talk) 18:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
There is evidence that an iPhone X Rev B was released in April 2018 with fixes to NFC chip in Japan and China due to some issues with services that required a specific revision to the NFC chip. The main issues were with Suica payment in Japan and NFC and Atadistance did a lot of documentation on the issue and Apple releasing a fixed iPhone X for affected users. The Rev B has a vastly improved NFC chip over the original production of the iPhone X. Anyone want to write up a quick summary of the issue and post it here for the iPhone X?
https://atadistance.net/2018/09/10/the-apple-internal-support-doc-for-iphone-x-nfc-issue-and-meaning/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gh0sti100 ( talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
>> I have covered the iPhone X Suica NFC problem from the beginning and would be happy to write a simple summary. Do you want me to post it here for peer review first or edit it directly into the iPhone X page? Thx VelvetJ ( talk) 07:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
>> I would suggest the following correction: After releasing the iPhone X in Japan users who used Apple Pay Suica Express Transit card had issues with transit gate errors. This same issue was later reported in China for Beijing and Shanghai Express Transit Cards after Apple Pay support was added for those cards in iOS 11.3. The iPhone 8 did not see this similar problem and only affected early iPhone X production models. Apple released a revision in April 2018, Rev B that solved NFC errors and double reads on transit gates or store readers on a regular basis: on average 1 out of 3 NFC attempts would fail. This affected users in America as well. [104] — Preceding unsigned comment added by VelvetJ ( talk • contribs) 09:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
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The Incognito Guy (
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It says that the X is a 12th generation iPhone but it isn't. I've tried changing it to 11th but I can't find the specific point where it says 12th in the edit section. Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 07:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
It’s been done! Whatamidoingwithmylife30 ( talk) 15:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
See
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/security/sec8a67fa93d/web — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:6D40:34DA:9301:C0D0:A2FA:8C1:F311 ( talk) 09:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
What infobox image should be used? 17:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
The current picture of the iPhone is a vector illustration of just the front side (see Option 1). Though, I wanted to change it to Option 2 (below).
So, I changed it. But
Ghostofakina reverted it because all the other iPhone pages show the front only. Not saying I'm mad for this, but in my opinion, it should be changed to Option 2 (below) to highlight the fact that the cameras and the back's material have also changed with the iPhone X compared to the iPhone 7. Though, there are no pictures in the article at the moment to show the new back.
I only want to establish consensus to decide what picture we should use to prevent edit wars in the future regarding this.
Thanks, 🔥 Jala peño🔥 07:59, 15 September 2023 (UTC)