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iPhone is coming soon in Tunisia, so can you please change the map of availability and change the colour of Tunisia's map. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.226.218.91 ( talk) 15:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the reference to the Apple iPhone be just "Apple iPhone"? Now it is just "iPhone", thus iPhone is not a own company and more than Apple has the brand iPhone. So I suggest that the "iPhone" page turns to be a branching page to "Apple iPhone" and "Cisco iphone"... Äggmackan ( talk) 14:00, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Could you add this text?
iPhone being a closed platform does not have a public issue tracker, unlike open platforms like Android. [1] Making much harder the decision to buy an iPhone for power users.
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Sorry, but this is ridiculous and sounds like it's pandering to the Android fan crowd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.31.106.35 ( talk) 18:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Of course this is ridiculous for you but wikipedia is an objective information source and information like this is quite important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.25.79.174 ( talk) 21:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
size limit over 3G "Furthermore, files downloaded over cellular networks must be smaller than 10 MB."
This was changed to 20mb
(there are literally hundreds of news sources reporting this) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.173.36 ( talk) 18:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
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In the iPhone's never ending quest for world domination, another couple of countries now have it available. Can someone please add Armenia and Vietnam? [1] Thanks.
Oh and P.S. - does the map really have to be that miniature? At the moment the key is as large as the map itself, and it looks (almost) comically small... - Bernerd ( talk) 23:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Please add some of these shots to the iPhone page. It shows a common users problem with the glass breaking.
The images can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/chreriksen/sets/72157621337668310/
I agree with the usage of my shots on Wikipedia.
Best Regards,
Chris
Chreriksen ( talk) 15:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
interesting Ive dropped mine many many many times from shoulder high and never had my screen crack - Tracer9999 ( talk) 19:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
The license agreement for the new iPhone SDK prohibits the use of any middleware, and requires you to only use the programming languages that Apple specify. Here is the text in full:
And here are some references that I found on a cursory glance:
http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler
This is notable because of the wide variety of apps which use middleware. I have it on good authority that the NY Times app demonstrated on the iPad was made in Flash, and many games use the Unity middleware engine. All this will be retroactively removed from the app store should Apple follow through with the new agreement.
I reckon it's a job of someone greater than I to add this properly into the article. - Skorpus McGee ( talk) 11:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Just read it through and it seems pretty wordy, and throwing out a lot of later-repeated info into an intoduction section. Should we maybe trim it down a bit? Max.inglis ( talk) 21:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that the title of this page (as displayed on the page, not the URL) is switching pretty regularly between IPhone and iPhone. For example, this revison is uppercase: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=IPhone&oldid=361538209 while this revision is lowercase: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=IPhone&oldid=361537997. Browsing the history yields a number of examples in quick succession. The thing is, I don't see anything obvious in the wiki text to explain the changes. Can anyone enlighten me as to why it gets changed? 63.229.31.77 ( talk) 22:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC) Jeremy 5/11/2010
Requesting edit of this sentence.
"The iPhone 3GS has improved performance, a camera with higher resolution and video capability, voice control,[22] and support for 7.2 Mbps HSDPA downloading (but remains limited to 384 Kbps uploading as Apple has not implemented the HSPA protocol)"
It should read "Apple has not implemented the HSUPA protocol"
as it has semi-implemented the HSPA protocol in the Download side.
Imalek0 (
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17:17, 25 April 2010 (UTC) Mike H.
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In the Internet section- the file download limit is out of date. It has been upped to 20MB.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/apple-raises-iphone-download-limit-to-20mb/19365036/.
Also the download speed is dated too. It's closer to 3.2Mbs and in some areas 7.2Mbs for those with 3GS models
Tmuller2 (
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06:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Tmuller2 ( talk) 06:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
One more item-- In the "Sim Unlocking" section-- the information about AT&T selling iPhone with out a contract commitment isn't totally accurate. The non-commitment pricing is $499/599/699 (8GB,16GB, 32GB) compared to $99/$199/$299. Hence, $400 more. The reason is AT&T subsidizes handset cost in turn for a 2-year commitment. If the contract is terminated then a prorated ETF is charged to recover the up-front subsidy. AT&T recovers the subsidy plus "then some" over the life of the two-year contract from monthly fees. The part that is inaccurate is that Apple lose deferred income. That's incorrect. Apple doesn't receive any of the monthly service revenue. So that needs to be removed. I think the explanation for why non-commitment iPhones are so much more expensive should be that there is no guarantee that it would recover the subsidy due to no contract agreement as well as doesn't provide AT&T the right to charge ETF to recover subsidy if terminated. Tmuller2 ( talk) 10:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
the iPhone 3GS is listed of buy in vodafone iceland website http://www.vodafone.is/simtaekin/um/Apple%20iPhone%203GS%2016GB but it is weird as iceland is not on the list of country that have the iPhone 3GS Available http://www.apple.com/iphone/countries/ Andri12 ( talk) 11:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
wikipedia is not supposed to be censored. if there are notable problems that are noted by notable officers of a notable company, and reported on by notable news sources by notable reporters, and you leave it out of your encyclopedia, then your encyclopedia loses credibility. many media outlets have reported that an worker at an iphone factory committed suicide and claimed he was beaten and interrogated because he lost an iPhone prototype. Apple itself has commented on the situation with its laborers. Leaving this out of the article is not representative of the spirit of wikipedia and i believe it is in violation of several policies. Decora ( talk) 22:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Something should be mentioned of the 10 or so suicides at iphone manufacturer Foxconn. Foxconn has also made all employees sign a letter promising not to kill themselves. requires 60+ hours a week of overtime and employees make $120 a month, yes a month. Apple has stepped up somewhat offering to give up .7 percent of their profit on the iphone so the employees could get a 20% raise and stop killing themselves (total 3% of profit will go to labor after the increase). That would make them being paid 144 / mo . Not that Im saying all of this is apples fault mind you, but Foxconn is the only firm building the iphone and apple does continue to do business with them so it should be mentioned here as it generating quite a bit of press lately . Any Ideas on where we put it? - Tracer9999 ( talk) 03:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
An editor removed the entire section, claiming that it was no longer notable. I disagree, but would like to bring it here for further discussion. There should be at least a mention of them in the article, I think. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Airplaneman ✈ 22:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Added to history daughter article. Daniel.Cardenas ( talk) 02:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 4 is listed as having 32GB and 64GB capacities available, while the announcement confirmed that only 16GB and 32GB versions will be available. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20006980-37.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody If someone would mind editing this, that would be great as I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.184.92.145 ( talk) 23:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
The picture captioned "The photo display application supports both portrait and landscape orientations" doesn't very well depict what it's talking about, as the photo application is not in landscape mode, but is displaying a landscape image. It's misleading to how the phone functions. Epheterson ( talk) 05:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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The RAM in the new iPhone 4 hasn't been confirmed by anyone, rumored to have 512MB. Shouldn't be posted as 256MB if not confirmed. Sonicadvance1 ( talk) 07:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it worth adding comparisons with other current competing devices? The iPhone does not exist in a bubble independently of the rest of the world. A couple of examples are:
Reading the article, this context is not immediately obvious. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 08:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I run XP 64bit on a number of computers because it has a lightweight footprint. One of the most frustrating things is Apple's lack of support for iTunes in XP 64 bit. There are a number of hacks which will help install it inside of XP 64 bit but most of the features do not work including the ability to sync with the iPhone or iPod. Please update this in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.213.209.31 ( talk) 21:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The chart showing each version of the iPhone and the release dates fails to mention the 4GB, also it says they were released on sept5, 2007, when in fact they came out june5, 2007 (as the article says in other places). I'd edit it, but I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.33.11 ( talk) 23:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The battery is a 5.25 Whr one, which is 1.419 mAh (5.25WHr / 3.7V). This has been confirmed in several teardown pictures of the iphone 4 - http://www.iphoneheat.com/2010/04/iphone-4g-hd-teardown/ , and the teardown has been confirmed within the WWDC 2010 Keynote by Steve Jobs. In one slide, he revealed drawings of the inner components and it was identical to the teardown site. Therefore, this info re the battery should be incorporated into the "Power" section on the right hand side.
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Gizmodo got their hands on the 4G iPhone. We need to add this info in! UPDATE: Me Again, iPhone Confirmed, Res and Cam Data is fact —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.82.187.49 ( talk) 19:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
It has been officially confirmed that the iPhone 4G was legitimate. Someone needs to add this information into the article! Jsehrett ( talk) 19:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)jsehrett, Apr 20 2010
I would like to point out that technically its name should be the iPhone 4, not the iPhone 4G, as it (or at least the prototype) uses 3G technology. The decision by them to use 3G technology instead of 4G technology was logical because very few companies have 4G technology at this moment, and most of those companies only have it in select areas. According to wikipedia's 4G article, the only companies to have 4G technology active at this moment are Sprint in the U.S., Telus and Bell in Canada, and O2 in England. Charwinger21 ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Should a brand new Article on just the iPhone 4 be created? Much of what the current article shows does nto pertain to the new Phone. I see that car models often place generation after generation of the same named car, but it gets a little ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.237.168.204 ( talk) 23:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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The iPhone 4 does run iOS, but the section states that it run "iOS version 3.1.3" There is no such thing. The iPhone 4 runs iOS 4.
attma92 06:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attma92 ( talk • contribs)
The information for the 3G and 3GS models are actually for the 2nd and 3rd generation of iPod Touches. The iPhone 3G did not have a chrome back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.191.53.41 ( talk) 17:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
What bands/frequencies is the iPhone sold in the US and also on Telstra's Next G network? Tri400 ( talk) 04:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Where is lists all 4 iphone models, the information for the Iphone 3g is incorrect. All this information was stuff added to the second generation ipod touch. the 3G did not have nike+ ipod. and every iphone has had a built in speaker. and the iphone 3g doesn't have a silver back. I have one and i promise you, it doesn't. L2 Iphone please.
Justin Reyes ( talk) 09:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Please change "All-glass front and back panels with a stainless steel antenna band around the sides." to add "aluminosilicate" because that is the material that Apple used to build the front and the back display. Source is here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/. Jackbauersd ( talk) 07:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 3GS originally comes in 16GB and 32GB, but Apple has made an 8GB model of the 3GS for $99. Be sure to add this information to the infobox; keep 3GS and 4 separate. 69.255.16.132 ( talk) 03:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
iPhone 4 related information → iPhone 4 — As per WP:SPLIT. – Edson.ajj ( talk) 02:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Comment: I think that this article has grown to be to big, it comes particularly to my attention the attempt to deal with every model of the phone on every section.
I came here today to see if I could add anything in regard to the iPhone 4, but instead when reading it became apparent to me that what it needs the most is a change in the way the information is ordered.
I propose that the article be separated either into sections covering each model or that information about the iPhone 3G be removed, thus providing info about the original and currently available models. The information regarding the history could be re-ordered into a timeline such as the one found in
Timeline of Apple Inc. products and details left only for the original iPhone announcement and the newest model.
Edson.ajj (
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02:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Support: According to
WP:SPLIT, this discussion is not required to split a page, and that anyone can split the page, the only thing stopping anyone from doing this is that the
iPhone 4 article page has been locked, so could an administrator please unlock the
iPhone 4 page please?
The
iPhone article should be primarily about the iPhone line, with separate articles for the
iPhone (Original),
iPhone 3G,
iPhone 3GS, and
iPhone 4 – the same way that the iPod, iMac, and other articles are organised.
86.129.192.49 (
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18:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
The article states "First phone with Wi-Fi and a Multi-Touch interface." There were other phones with Wi-Fi interface before iPhone (July 2007), just to mention SonyEricsson P990 (August 2006). -- 79.122.23.22 ( talk) 19:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The iphone 4 is quad band with 900MHz also supported now. And also it supports Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n. They both need to be included. Oh, and it now has HSUPA too. These all ned to be added. (All confirmed on the iPhone tech specs page) Hdk94 ( talk) 12:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Theres a few things that need to be corrected in the article.
1. the touchscreen is a 320x460 at 163dpi blah blah blah, um but the iPhone 4 has a 960x640 resolution at 326dpi
2. picture of original iphone representing audio says audio is i think left and mic is right but on the 4 they switched it.
since this article has to have a neutral point-of-view and this ARTICLE IS A MAIN PAGE OF ALL THE IPHONES i think it should center on all four iphones. but the iPhone 4 breaks from the design older iphones used so you can't center them in one sentence like oh the touchscreen is a 320x460..... that use to work but now its different —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.111.193 ( talk) 06:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Could somebody please update this image to the 3G/3GS model so that a more recent image can be on the article (it is currently in the hardware section) - I would do so myself but I have no camera and I can obviously not use my iPhone to take a picture of itself :) thanks! 86.179.91.153 ( talk) 18:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Make it a picture of an iPhone 4 now. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Photoguy2801 ( talk • contribs) 03:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hello,
in the article about the iPhone, the table with the models shows various battery lifes... Only the battery life from the iPhone 3G isn't correct. iPhone 3G should be able to play for up to 36 hour of music or 6 hours of video. The iPhone 3GS for 30 hours of music and 8 hours of video...
The battery life of the iPhone 3G (by music) isn't 30 hours, but 24 hours (like said earlier in the text) to check: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
77.250.155.249 (
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07:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose a change to the following: Other carriers such as Verizon Wireless have been forced by the AT&T monopoly to focus on other types of smart phones such as those based on the Android (operating system).[207]
AT&T does not have a MONOPOLY on the iPhone, they have an exclusive distribution deal in the United States. There is no monopoly. Also Verizon is not "FORCED" to "focus" on anything else. They jsut offer differnt products. —Preceding
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68.7.87.91 (
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10:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I have updated the image on regarding the SIM locking etc to File:Iphonesimcard.JPG. I hope there is no objection as the previous photo was of an earlier discontinued model. If someone has a newer device and could update the article further this would be great. Thanks Luke2511 ( talk) 20:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the iPhone Wikipedia page has become to bloated. Is it possible to explain what the iPhone is in a nutshell on the main page and branch the models off into different pages. These phones have more than a small few features. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ev5unleash ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Apple has a section on there website where you can download images of their products and are aloud to be used to illustrate their products. Here's the link for the iPhone 4 image: http://www.apple.com/pr/products/iphone/iphone4_frontside_agreement.html
Could someone please check if the image is permitted to be used on Wikipedia, and if so, upload it please? 86.129.192.49 ( talk) 20:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm that administrator who protected the pages for articles on each model. The consensus, when I checked before the iPhone 4 announcement, was to use one article. My impression of the newly changed consensus is a lot of you are new to Wikipedia and are bursting at the seams with enthusiasm and ideas. My job is to temper that enthusiasm and create something orderly, informative, neutral, and cited out of that, which is a balancing act to say the least. My impression, though, is that I've gone from guiding the Wiki Process to blocking it. I have now unprotected:
I'm going to start with a very hands-off approach, and let the river of pent-up editing energy take its course. I won't even delete the redirects, for fear of "contaminating" the "experiment". If/when the activity stops, we'll see what we have and whether the subarticles are really the best idea, depending on the state of those subarticles. They may get merged into List of iOS devices or History of the iPhone. In the mean time, have at it. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 23:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed some edit warring in regards to the image at the top of the article. The previous consensus (read that) was that showing a blank screen failed to properly identify the iPhone because the screen is so integral to the product and there is so little hardware. For full disclosure, I agree with that sentiment and reverted once myself. But I don't like seeing people revert each other with no more than pithy edit summaries. So please,, let's discuss this in more detail. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 04:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
While I still prefer a shot of the interface, I had an idea that allows us to at least photograph the device powered on. I created File:IPhone free desktop.png, File:IPhone free desktop (retina).png, and File:IPad free desktop.png. They use either the same or a very similar image of earth on a black background as Apple, but without the UI or an attempted mockup. Next time someone does an iPhone photo shoot, they just have it on that image. (I couldn't do it for the iPhone 4 set I took today because we're having trouble getting it activated - long story.) But let me emphasize: the interface is preferred from an encyclopedic standpoint, if it acceptable from a copyright standpoint. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 05:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does this article not list the criticisms of the iPhone 4 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.202.71.113 ( talk) 11:53, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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— mono 20:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} All other mobile phone manufacturers Motorola, Nokia, Sony Ericsson and HTC describe their different phones as 'models'. iPhone models are for some reason called 'generations' See for instance Nokia_N900. Definition of Generation. Generations used in the context of technical development are normally associated with a major shift in the technology. A common example could be that tape cassettes is one generations and CD records next generation. I suspect that this is marketing language that found its way here.
I submit that in all iPhone references to 'generations' is replaced by 'model'.
Kindly B.
BroodingBear ( talk) 13:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Procedural comment: As this matter clearly requires some discussion to demonstrate consensus, I have removed the {{editsemiprotected}} above, for now. Please reinstate if there is a clear consensus to make the change (and if it is not done by other editors). Thanks, Chzz ► 11:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Audio and output section it mentions that on the bottom of the phone, the speaker is on the left and the mic on the right. On my iPhone 4, they are swapped. Can any other iPhone 4 owners confirm this? Kgarr ( talk) 20:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
The Open Directory Project (DMOZ) should not be plugged by this article. The directory is weak, and contains only a few (mostly irrelevant) links regarding the iPhone. I propose that it is removed from the links altogether because it does not provide extra information, and does not add to the critical caliber of the Wiki page in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.87.123 ( talk) 08:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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This article does not mention processor type or speed of the iPhone models, after some searching I found it at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices#iPhone. Should this information not be in the main article since it is a significant specification on a device like this? Owen :-P 06:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Owen :-P 06:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, am I right, that the front-camera has no hd-capturing possibility? greets, -- Andreas -horn- Hornig ( talk) 16:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
This page is WAY too big its discusting to read even on my new desktop. Its too big!!!
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Existing text:
"Like the iPod, the iPhone is managed with iTunes. The earliest versions of the OS required version 7.3 or later, which is compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4.10 Tiger or later, and 32-bit or 64-bit Windows XP or Vista.[97] The release of iTunes 7.6 expanded this support to include 64-bit versions of XP and Vista,[98] and a workaround has been discovered for previous 64-bit Windows operating systems.[99]"
This is incorrect, as a (frustrated) owner of a Windows XP 64 bit OS I can assure you that iTunes does not support this system. This is confirmed here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1426?viewlocale=en_US
Revised text: "Like the iPod, the iPhone is managed with iTunes. The earliest versions of the OS required version 7.3 or later, which is compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4.10 Tiger or later and 32-bit Windows XP and later.[97] The release of iTunes 7.6 expanded this support to include 64-bit versions of Windows starting with Vista[98] and there are some approaches for trying to install iTunes on Windows XP 64-bit.[99]"
24.189.15.187 (
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03:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The A4 is listed as both the processor and graphics for the iPhone 4, but it is divided among other models. The comment given for this is "iPhone 4 graphics included under processor". This is basically a misconception of how ARM devices work. What people often call Processors are System on Chips, the A4 is one of them, so is something like a Snapdragon used on many other popular smartphones. They both have a similar 1GHz Cortex-A8 CPU, which is designed by ARM the company. The GPU, among other things, are built into the SoCs as well; the A4 using a PowerVR 535, and the Snapdragon using an Adreno 200. Unless anyone has a problem with it, I will fix it soon TMV943 ( talk) 04:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I think it's weird that the Hardware section has no information about the processor and other things that are available further down the page. -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 13:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
"Internet access is available when the iPhone is connected to a local area Wi-Fi or a wide area GSM or EDGE network, both second-generation (2G) wireless data standards. The iPhone 3G introduced support for third-generation UMTS and HSDPA 3.6,[118] but not HSUPA networks, and only the iPhone 3GS supports HSDPA 7.2.[119] AT&T introduced 3G in July 2004,[120] but as late as 2007 Steve Jobs stated that it was still not widespread enough in the US, and the chipsets not energy efficient enough, to be included in the iPhone.[22][121] Support for 802.1X, an authentication system commonly used by university and corporate Wi-Fi networks, was added in the 2.0 version update.[122]" (from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone) should now read:
Internet access is available when the iPhone is connected to a local area Wi-Fi, a wide area GSM or EDGE network, which are second-generation (2G) wireless data standards, or a HSDPA or UMTS third-generation (3G) network.. The iPhone 3G introduced support for third-generation UMTS and HSDPA 3.6,[118] and the iPhone 4 introduced support for HSUPA networks. Both the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 support HSDPA 7.2.[119] AT&T introduced 3G in July 2004,[120] but as late as 2007 Steve Jobs stated that it was still not widespread enough in the US, and the chipsets not energy efficient enough, to be included in the iPhone.[22][121] Support for 802.1X, an authentication system commonly used by university and corporate Wi-Fi networks, was added in the 2.0 version update.[122] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmackay13 ( talk • contribs) 00:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
While it seems that there used to be a "Counterfeit iPhones" section back in 2008, it seems to border on denial not even acknowledging the phenomenon on the current page. Reliable press reports (e.g. [3], [4]) suggest this is a significant and ongoing issue, so why aren't we even mentioning it? Nick Cooper ( talk) 12:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
according to the official website of orange ( http://www.orange.tn/orange-tunisie/cid1468-jeu-concours.html) the iPhone 4 is coming soon (click on the "grand jeu iPhone" tab) can you please update the world map and make Tunisia green? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.226.244.198 ( talk) 23:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 4 is now officially available in Tunisia..map needs an update —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.230.135.45 ( talk) 22:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I think this article should cover or reference the Apps ecosystem and development environment. It might be worth mentioning app development only being allowed on Apple computers and only after purchasing a license. I might be worth mentioning app-approval controversy and potential anti-competitive behavior by Apple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GregorLarson ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The article mentions that the iPhone can be sim-unlocked in Australia. It should also mention it's sold completely unlocked by apple and its resellers (always - there is no carrier-tied version sold by Apple anywhere in Aus). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.48.18 ( talk) 07:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Source? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 15:13, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101006/ts_nm/us_apple_verizon
This should be added somewhere on the page, I think. Mellophonius ( talk) 20:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
From your updated wiki article: "The Wall Street Journal stated on October 6, 2010 that a CDMA version of the iPhone 4 would be released 1st quarter 2011 for release to Verizon Wireless."
This is still speculation, as is clear by the quotes from Apple and Verizon.
Despite the tail wagging the dog headlines in the NYT and WSJ, there has been no formal announcement from either Apple or Verizon, so as yet, this is still unconfirmed and simply speculation. Agave Anejo ( talk) 14:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Here is further proof that a Verizon iPhone is not possible at this time regardless of the Wall Street Journal's "confirmed" sources. There is a 5 year exclusivity deal between AT&T (Cingular) and Apple that was made in 2007.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2007-05-21-at&t-iphone_N.htm
There have been rumors of a Verizon iPhone for years, why does this one all of a sudden deserve credence? I'd remove it myself, but every time I do something like that, I get backlash and a note on my user page about editing stuff -- FiveIron ( talk) 22:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I ended up making the edit because there seemed to be no objections for over a week. The evidence against (5-year contract with AT&T, no data and voice at the same time) a CDMA iPhone is stronger than for ("reliable sources"), and this has been speculated
since the original iPhone, and has yet to come to fruition. WP:NEWSORG states "Wikipedia is not the place for passing along gossip and rumors.", even if WSJ is reputable (not disputed). While a mere sentence about an unreleased product is not covered by it, I believe it goes against the spirit of WP:CRYSTAL -- FiveIron ( talk) 02:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't call this speculation, yet It can't be stated as fact. There have been numerous news outlets that have confirmed VZ iPhone from sources (WSJ, NYT, Bloomberg, and Fortune). In addition, there have been confirmation from Asian suppliers. Apple and VZ of course don't comment on unofficial news releases. I disagree that the 5-year agreement is stronger evidence. Those agreements aren't written in stone, and in fact have many clauses and stipulations. On a conference call, Apple management stated that it wasn't married to any one carrier and that it could change at anytime. However, they stated Apple chooses to enter exclusive agreements in particular situations where they make the most sense. The original agreement is 4 years old and it's likely that is have been modified multiple times sense. When asked at the D8 conference last summer "if it would make sense to open iPhone to more carriers in the US" Steve Jobs replied along the lines of "maybe" or "it could" ""it might" (can't remember exactly) however this was a stark departure from previous comments from Apple management which defended the decision of exclusivity due to the cooperation if afforded by AT&T to allow visual voicemail, iTunes downloads, App store etc. I think the reports are credible and shouldn't be dismissed but also shouldn't be treated as indisputable fact. I know there have been rumors of VZ iPhone for years, however none of those sources were credible just speculation from pundits and analysts. In contrast, these recent reports originate from highly reputable new organizations that have multiple sources which they have vetted. I follow Apple and the industry very closely being a top-ranked independent analyst and in my opinion it's a done deal. I think it deserves attention. I believe there should be mention of all the reputable news organizations that have independently confirmed the deal. That is pertinent. Tmuller2 ( talk) 17:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I am Turley Muller, analyst, but you have made some assumptions about me. I have no clients, I have NO financial interest in whether something is written/not written on Wikipedia or anywhere else for that matter. My mission is to share analysis and insight to counter what is being passed off as "research" that is actually propaganda in some form. I don't know if you really read what I wrote AT ALL- I clearly stated that an imminent VZ iPhone was NOT a fact and should not be treated as such. I However, it is a fact that WSJ, NYT, Bloomberg, and Fortune- the most reputable news organizations have all independently confirmed it. That did it happen, that is a fact. Those organizations are putting their reputations on the line. Now can we say it's a fact that there will be a VZ iPhone? Of course not. I wasn't trying to lobby that it should be. I agree with your position completely since there hasn't been official confirmation from VZ or Apple. I was just thinking that the mass of VZ speculation that has gone on since day one is a pertinent part of the iPhone's history, the fact that people have been hoping and waiting.... and waiting.... unsubstantiated reports one after another continued to prove to be false, to the point where now that we have finally got some credible reports, many are quick to dismiss it since they have been hearing that forever already. It doesn't really matter now, we will know in a few weeks for certain, one way or another. Tmuller2 ( talk) 09:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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The line that reads, "Voice control, available only on the iPhone 3GS," should be "Voice control, available on the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4,".
Thomas Aylesworth (
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20:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Information about the iPhone CF (Conflict Free) should be added, which is functional as the "normal" iPhone but in contrast to the standard model does not use materials from conflict regions and thereby does not support child soldiers. 128.40.82.38 ( talk) 03:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
As mentioned correctly on the List of iOS devices page, the iPhone 4 supports 802.11n wifi on the 2.4ghz band. This could be added to the 'connectivity' part. TumbleCow ( talk) 17:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion about a proposal to move iOS (Apple) to iOS. See Talk:IOS_(Apple)#Requested_Move. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 21:29, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I think that the criticism of the iPhone should be included in this article. E.g. have a look at the German article:
I notice that DESPITE Apple using their iPhone market dominance to censor and sue everyone else. There is no section that deals with this treading! Just mention the top of the censorship iceberg: expertreviews.co.uk/tablet-pcs/278896/apple-censors-james-joyces-ulysses-on-the-ipad
wired.com/epicenter/2010/04/apple-bans-satire/
Electron9 ( talk) 13:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Armenia, Tunisia, Vietnam and Costa Rica need to be added to the map per the individual iPhone pages off http://www.apple.com/choose-your-country/. I would do it, but the file is a bloody svg not a png, so I don't know how... Thanks Bernerd ( talk) 12:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
The article says "Apple created the device during a secretive and unprecedented collaboration with AT&T Mobility—Cingular Wireless at the time—at an estimated development cost of US$150 million over thirty months.[6] Apple rejected the "design by committee" approach that had yielded the Motorola ROKR E1" What I'm wondering is which one is it? Was collaborating with a cell phone company when designing the phone "unprecedented", or had a different phone, "the Motorola ROKR E1", already been created through the same process? 99.255.58.85 ( talk) 20:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I have an issue with the non-capitalization of the "i" in iPhone, on the page heading. According to what I have learned from all of the people who have reverted my edits on Japanese song titles (I put them with the unusual capitalization and all, but they change them back to capital first letter, and lowercase the rest) that use alternating caps, or unusual lower or uppercase styles for song titles (such as the woman who has two songs, one called Joy, and one called joy, for example), the 'iPhone' title needs to be spelled 'Iphone.' I've had lengthy discussions about this topic with others on wiki, so there needs to be a final say-so on this issue that I can cite as I go around correcting song titles... or, change the iPhone titles to Iphone. Is unusual capitalization, such as with 'iPhone' allowed or not? -- NatsukiGirl\ talk 17:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In lieu of the recent facts, I propose that a new section based on iPhone controversies should be made. It could contains sections from intellectual property and restrictions. And not to conflict with
WP:CRYSTAL, but I sincerely doubt this is going to be the last of the controversies from Apple. Expecially given the fact that they want to use fingerprint ID and facial recognition features in the future.
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It sounds like your just trying to downplay the severity of the entire incident. "Hear" has valid sources explaining what he was doing. Also it's amazing that you just mentions WP:CIVILITY and then said "Do you understand or should I get out my crayons?" Thats not very civil. Wikipedia is about neutralizing facts, not just leaning such incidents in favour of what the general public would want to hear. AGiorgio08 talk 16:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
"constantly"??? How often is that? I'd love to see a reliable source that actually tells us how often. I couldn't find one. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:01, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
From the source I cited (which was written by Alasdair Allan and Peter Warden, the people who created the iPhoneTracker app): "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure." How does this not support my recent edit, which you just reverted (while making yet another accusation about my motivation in editing)? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
BTW Jason X. Chen, Peter Warden and Alasdair Allan don't have Wikipedia articles. Should we just remove the entire paragraph until the do? If that is the rule for judging whether someone is a reliable source. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I've listed this at Wikipedia:Third opinion. You haven't made it clear, you've edited again to say that the file contains user locations. When the two authors of the iPhoneTracker application actually say on their blog that they aren't clear. "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure. Sean has another map that overlays actual tower locations with his points, and it's clear they don't coincide, but could well be triangulated from multiple towers. Sean's observation fits with our initial hypothesis that the locations are the result of sometimes-inaccurate triangulation from towers, but Peter's is evidence that there's a bias in the data to clustering around tower positions." And suggesting that we don't reference blogs is a bit of a problem when all the research on this still unclear issue is being done on blogs. Perhaps we should just remove the section entirely and wait until we actually have a clear picture what is happening here, instead of reporting on an issue that is ongoing and unclear. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 20:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm not exactly an uninvolved editor, since I've edited the iPhone article for years, but I can provide a third opinion. Frankly I'm wondering what the particular issue is. Is it regarding the inclusion of a controversies section, or the particular controversy itself? The proposal to add a section about controversies or criticisms has come up time and again in this article, to the extent that it was addressed in the FAQ at the top of this talk page. As a short explanation, such sections are discouraged both for neutrality purposes and because it makes for better article writing. As to the specific information, we need to be absolutely certain that the information is verifiable. If that's the dispute I can take a look and weigh in. I'm certainly not opposed to adding negative information to the article that is noteworthy, I was the person who originally added the information about the liquid contact indicators being triggered through routine use. -- Atama 頭 18:12, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The request for a 3O was about whether the article should say that the consolidated.db file "constantly stores the iPhone user's movement", when the authors of the iPhoneTracker app (who I'm assuming you know kicked off this recent media frenzy) are now saying on their blog that it isn't clear whether the records in the file are estimated user locations or cell tower locations. "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure. Sean has another map that overlays actual tower locations with his points, and it's clear they don't coincide, but could well be triangulated from multiple towers. Sean's observation fits with our initial hypothesis that the locations are the result of sometimes-inaccurate triangulation from towers, but Peter's is evidence that there's a bias in the data to clustering around tower positions." http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/more-iphone-tracking-research.html AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 18:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. We are stating in the article that we know what this file does. But at this point, it doesn't appear that anyone (aside from Apple who aren't talking) really knows for sure. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 20:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
What? Apple builds cell towers now? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 23:57, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The edits from April 23rd onwards are the points of contention. The issue is pretty much reduced to just do we say the file "constantly stores the iPhone user's movement" or do we say the file stored timestamped locations and there is ongoing debate about what these actually refer to. On a side-note, can I say for the record, Apple do not build cell phone towers. If someone wants to prove otherwise with a reliable source, please do. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 01:05, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I can't find the controversy mentioned in the article. Wikipedia doesn't search for the truth, but instead, it just describes the facts. And this controversy is quite a remarkable fact. Both sides of the story worth to be mentioned - the claims that iPhone records the data - and the denial of such thing from Apple. — Ark25 ( talk) 20:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Jonathan Ive, the designer behind all the modern Apple devices hasn't been mentioned in any one of the articles associated with the Apple devices he created, you could argue that Ive is the reason Apple is so famous today, I can only assume it's either due to ignorance or deliberate. Twobells ( talk)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/?title=Jesus_phone&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.100.174.136 ( talk) 00:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_January_29#Jesus_phone_.E2.86.92_iPhone :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegovb ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Nominated for deletion here. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 17:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
An Apple store in Canada has appeared in local news because it allowed a thief to replace a stolen iPhone4 without verifying their identity, and when the legal owner found out the store is in possession of the stolen phone, the store refused to release the phone despite police involvement. [6] [7] The following appeared as part of an editorial in the news: "Why would they do this, you might ask? Setting up a transfer-of-ownership system would cost Apple millions of dollars, and take up thousands of hours of time from support staff and sales clerks at stores. Time that could be spent resolving technical issues, or selling Apple's pricey fare. And guess what an iPhone4 owner will do when his/heriPhone is stolen? That's right, they'll buy a new one."
Is this worthy of inclusion in one of the articles? Shawnc ( talk) 02:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I think we should include a mile long list of "missing features", just like Windows Mobile has one in the section "criticism". To be honest, YES I am a big fan of Microsoft and YES I definitely hate Apple, but Wikipedia has to stay neutral. This includes IMHO that comparable platforms get "judged" the same way. (Ok, most of the following points are mentioned somewhere in the article, but there is no dedicated "criticism" section.) Things I would suggest: - no microUSB port - storage is not extendable - even worse: battery is not removable - no flash - forced to use itunes for synchronization - no "side-loading" of apps possible (officially/without jailbreaking) - no possibility to use custom roms/modified firmware - Software for MacOS does NOT run on iOS! - Capacitive display makes it impossible to use a stylus - no file explorer (this is important to mention, since the Windows Mobile article "criticises" that WinMob can't change file properties without third-party software. Unability of changing file properties must me mentioned too, consequently) 178.26.100.27 ( talk) 14:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Under heading #2 Hardware, sub heading Screen Input, the sentence which reads, "Directly above the volume controls is a silence switch that mutes all sound when engaged." should read, "Directly above the volume controls is a silence switch that mutes all sound when engaged, except for any alarms set using the phones built in alarm system." or something to that effect. Bolt 45 ( talk) 05:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Each of the different iPhone pages has a generation listed. The Original is 1G, 3G is 2G, but the 3GS is listed as 3. If the iPhone 4S is listed as 4.5, isn't the 3GS just as much a 2.5 generation? The 3GS offered nothing more than a few bumped specs, just like the 4S. Anybody else think that the 4 should get bumped down to the 3rd generation? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 18:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree. I think it should be changed. Wikimann1234 10/11/11
Please remove the statement - "In 2011 the iPhone 4 was voted the Best Mobile Phone On Earth". This is highly misleading, as there were only 33 votes cast for this device. As the size of this poll is ridiculously small, it should not be sited in this article. Shame on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.210.35 ( talk) 22:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
This site is used by many lazy journalists- most of whom seem to believe that Apple invented the "smart phone"-it would be useful to have a historical perspective, perhaps suggesting that other handsets such as the HTC Athena, released months earlier was/were technically superior. I appreciate that this is not an open forum but following the death of Jobs the press are rewriting history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.116.183.42 ( talk) 19:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Something I've never understood. We deliberately blank out the image of the operating system in images like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iphone_4G-3_black_screen.png because Apple own the design of the operating system. How is it okay to show the external casing of the iPhone? Don't Apple own that too? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 08:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
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iPhone is coming soon in Tunisia, so can you please change the map of availability and change the colour of Tunisia's map. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.226.218.91 ( talk) 15:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the reference to the Apple iPhone be just "Apple iPhone"? Now it is just "iPhone", thus iPhone is not a own company and more than Apple has the brand iPhone. So I suggest that the "iPhone" page turns to be a branching page to "Apple iPhone" and "Cisco iphone"... Äggmackan ( talk) 14:00, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Could you add this text?
iPhone being a closed platform does not have a public issue tracker, unlike open platforms like Android. [1] Making much harder the decision to buy an iPhone for power users.
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Sorry, but this is ridiculous and sounds like it's pandering to the Android fan crowd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.31.106.35 ( talk) 18:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Of course this is ridiculous for you but wikipedia is an objective information source and information like this is quite important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.25.79.174 ( talk) 21:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
size limit over 3G "Furthermore, files downloaded over cellular networks must be smaller than 10 MB."
This was changed to 20mb
(there are literally hundreds of news sources reporting this) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.173.36 ( talk) 18:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
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In the iPhone's never ending quest for world domination, another couple of countries now have it available. Can someone please add Armenia and Vietnam? [1] Thanks.
Oh and P.S. - does the map really have to be that miniature? At the moment the key is as large as the map itself, and it looks (almost) comically small... - Bernerd ( talk) 23:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Please add some of these shots to the iPhone page. It shows a common users problem with the glass breaking.
The images can be found at http://www.flickr.com/photos/chreriksen/sets/72157621337668310/
I agree with the usage of my shots on Wikipedia.
Best Regards,
Chris
Chreriksen ( talk) 15:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
interesting Ive dropped mine many many many times from shoulder high and never had my screen crack - Tracer9999 ( talk) 19:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
The license agreement for the new iPhone SDK prohibits the use of any middleware, and requires you to only use the programming languages that Apple specify. Here is the text in full:
And here are some references that I found on a cursory glance:
http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/iphone_agreement_bans_flash_compiler
This is notable because of the wide variety of apps which use middleware. I have it on good authority that the NY Times app demonstrated on the iPad was made in Flash, and many games use the Unity middleware engine. All this will be retroactively removed from the app store should Apple follow through with the new agreement.
I reckon it's a job of someone greater than I to add this properly into the article. - Skorpus McGee ( talk) 11:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Just read it through and it seems pretty wordy, and throwing out a lot of later-repeated info into an intoduction section. Should we maybe trim it down a bit? Max.inglis ( talk) 21:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that the title of this page (as displayed on the page, not the URL) is switching pretty regularly between IPhone and iPhone. For example, this revison is uppercase: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=IPhone&oldid=361538209 while this revision is lowercase: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=IPhone&oldid=361537997. Browsing the history yields a number of examples in quick succession. The thing is, I don't see anything obvious in the wiki text to explain the changes. Can anyone enlighten me as to why it gets changed? 63.229.31.77 ( talk) 22:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC) Jeremy 5/11/2010
Requesting edit of this sentence.
"The iPhone 3GS has improved performance, a camera with higher resolution and video capability, voice control,[22] and support for 7.2 Mbps HSDPA downloading (but remains limited to 384 Kbps uploading as Apple has not implemented the HSPA protocol)"
It should read "Apple has not implemented the HSUPA protocol"
as it has semi-implemented the HSPA protocol in the Download side.
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In the Internet section- the file download limit is out of date. It has been upped to 20MB.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/apple-raises-iphone-download-limit-to-20mb/19365036/.
Also the download speed is dated too. It's closer to 3.2Mbs and in some areas 7.2Mbs for those with 3GS models
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Tmuller2 ( talk) 06:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
One more item-- In the "Sim Unlocking" section-- the information about AT&T selling iPhone with out a contract commitment isn't totally accurate. The non-commitment pricing is $499/599/699 (8GB,16GB, 32GB) compared to $99/$199/$299. Hence, $400 more. The reason is AT&T subsidizes handset cost in turn for a 2-year commitment. If the contract is terminated then a prorated ETF is charged to recover the up-front subsidy. AT&T recovers the subsidy plus "then some" over the life of the two-year contract from monthly fees. The part that is inaccurate is that Apple lose deferred income. That's incorrect. Apple doesn't receive any of the monthly service revenue. So that needs to be removed. I think the explanation for why non-commitment iPhones are so much more expensive should be that there is no guarantee that it would recover the subsidy due to no contract agreement as well as doesn't provide AT&T the right to charge ETF to recover subsidy if terminated. Tmuller2 ( talk) 10:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
the iPhone 3GS is listed of buy in vodafone iceland website http://www.vodafone.is/simtaekin/um/Apple%20iPhone%203GS%2016GB but it is weird as iceland is not on the list of country that have the iPhone 3GS Available http://www.apple.com/iphone/countries/ Andri12 ( talk) 11:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
wikipedia is not supposed to be censored. if there are notable problems that are noted by notable officers of a notable company, and reported on by notable news sources by notable reporters, and you leave it out of your encyclopedia, then your encyclopedia loses credibility. many media outlets have reported that an worker at an iphone factory committed suicide and claimed he was beaten and interrogated because he lost an iPhone prototype. Apple itself has commented on the situation with its laborers. Leaving this out of the article is not representative of the spirit of wikipedia and i believe it is in violation of several policies. Decora ( talk) 22:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Something should be mentioned of the 10 or so suicides at iphone manufacturer Foxconn. Foxconn has also made all employees sign a letter promising not to kill themselves. requires 60+ hours a week of overtime and employees make $120 a month, yes a month. Apple has stepped up somewhat offering to give up .7 percent of their profit on the iphone so the employees could get a 20% raise and stop killing themselves (total 3% of profit will go to labor after the increase). That would make them being paid 144 / mo . Not that Im saying all of this is apples fault mind you, but Foxconn is the only firm building the iphone and apple does continue to do business with them so it should be mentioned here as it generating quite a bit of press lately . Any Ideas on where we put it? - Tracer9999 ( talk) 03:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
An editor removed the entire section, claiming that it was no longer notable. I disagree, but would like to bring it here for further discussion. There should be at least a mention of them in the article, I think. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Airplaneman ✈ 22:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Added to history daughter article. Daniel.Cardenas ( talk) 02:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 4 is listed as having 32GB and 64GB capacities available, while the announcement confirmed that only 16GB and 32GB versions will be available. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20006980-37.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody If someone would mind editing this, that would be great as I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.184.92.145 ( talk) 23:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
The picture captioned "The photo display application supports both portrait and landscape orientations" doesn't very well depict what it's talking about, as the photo application is not in landscape mode, but is displaying a landscape image. It's misleading to how the phone functions. Epheterson ( talk) 05:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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The RAM in the new iPhone 4 hasn't been confirmed by anyone, rumored to have 512MB. Shouldn't be posted as 256MB if not confirmed. Sonicadvance1 ( talk) 07:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it worth adding comparisons with other current competing devices? The iPhone does not exist in a bubble independently of the rest of the world. A couple of examples are:
Reading the article, this context is not immediately obvious. Stephen B Streater ( talk) 08:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I run XP 64bit on a number of computers because it has a lightweight footprint. One of the most frustrating things is Apple's lack of support for iTunes in XP 64 bit. There are a number of hacks which will help install it inside of XP 64 bit but most of the features do not work including the ability to sync with the iPhone or iPod. Please update this in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.213.209.31 ( talk) 21:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The chart showing each version of the iPhone and the release dates fails to mention the 4GB, also it says they were released on sept5, 2007, when in fact they came out june5, 2007 (as the article says in other places). I'd edit it, but I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.33.11 ( talk) 23:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
The battery is a 5.25 Whr one, which is 1.419 mAh (5.25WHr / 3.7V). This has been confirmed in several teardown pictures of the iphone 4 - http://www.iphoneheat.com/2010/04/iphone-4g-hd-teardown/ , and the teardown has been confirmed within the WWDC 2010 Keynote by Steve Jobs. In one slide, he revealed drawings of the inner components and it was identical to the teardown site. Therefore, this info re the battery should be incorporated into the "Power" section on the right hand side.
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Gizmodo got their hands on the 4G iPhone. We need to add this info in! UPDATE: Me Again, iPhone Confirmed, Res and Cam Data is fact —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.82.187.49 ( talk) 19:24, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
It has been officially confirmed that the iPhone 4G was legitimate. Someone needs to add this information into the article! Jsehrett ( talk) 19:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)jsehrett, Apr 20 2010
I would like to point out that technically its name should be the iPhone 4, not the iPhone 4G, as it (or at least the prototype) uses 3G technology. The decision by them to use 3G technology instead of 4G technology was logical because very few companies have 4G technology at this moment, and most of those companies only have it in select areas. According to wikipedia's 4G article, the only companies to have 4G technology active at this moment are Sprint in the U.S., Telus and Bell in Canada, and O2 in England. Charwinger21 ( talk) 18:57, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Should a brand new Article on just the iPhone 4 be created? Much of what the current article shows does nto pertain to the new Phone. I see that car models often place generation after generation of the same named car, but it gets a little ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.237.168.204 ( talk) 23:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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The iPhone 4 does run iOS, but the section states that it run "iOS version 3.1.3" There is no such thing. The iPhone 4 runs iOS 4.
attma92 06:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attma92 ( talk • contribs)
The information for the 3G and 3GS models are actually for the 2nd and 3rd generation of iPod Touches. The iPhone 3G did not have a chrome back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.191.53.41 ( talk) 17:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
What bands/frequencies is the iPhone sold in the US and also on Telstra's Next G network? Tri400 ( talk) 04:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Where is lists all 4 iphone models, the information for the Iphone 3g is incorrect. All this information was stuff added to the second generation ipod touch. the 3G did not have nike+ ipod. and every iphone has had a built in speaker. and the iphone 3g doesn't have a silver back. I have one and i promise you, it doesn't. L2 Iphone please.
Justin Reyes ( talk) 09:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Please change "All-glass front and back panels with a stainless steel antenna band around the sides." to add "aluminosilicate" because that is the material that Apple used to build the front and the back display. Source is here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/. Jackbauersd ( talk) 07:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 3GS originally comes in 16GB and 32GB, but Apple has made an 8GB model of the 3GS for $99. Be sure to add this information to the infobox; keep 3GS and 4 separate. 69.255.16.132 ( talk) 03:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
iPhone 4 related information → iPhone 4 — As per WP:SPLIT. – Edson.ajj ( talk) 02:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Comment: I think that this article has grown to be to big, it comes particularly to my attention the attempt to deal with every model of the phone on every section.
I came here today to see if I could add anything in regard to the iPhone 4, but instead when reading it became apparent to me that what it needs the most is a change in the way the information is ordered.
I propose that the article be separated either into sections covering each model or that information about the iPhone 3G be removed, thus providing info about the original and currently available models. The information regarding the history could be re-ordered into a timeline such as the one found in
Timeline of Apple Inc. products and details left only for the original iPhone announcement and the newest model.
Edson.ajj (
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02:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Support: According to
WP:SPLIT, this discussion is not required to split a page, and that anyone can split the page, the only thing stopping anyone from doing this is that the
iPhone 4 article page has been locked, so could an administrator please unlock the
iPhone 4 page please?
The
iPhone article should be primarily about the iPhone line, with separate articles for the
iPhone (Original),
iPhone 3G,
iPhone 3GS, and
iPhone 4 – the same way that the iPod, iMac, and other articles are organised.
86.129.192.49 (
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18:35, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
The article states "First phone with Wi-Fi and a Multi-Touch interface." There were other phones with Wi-Fi interface before iPhone (July 2007), just to mention SonyEricsson P990 (August 2006). -- 79.122.23.22 ( talk) 19:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The iphone 4 is quad band with 900MHz also supported now. And also it supports Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n. They both need to be included. Oh, and it now has HSUPA too. These all ned to be added. (All confirmed on the iPhone tech specs page) Hdk94 ( talk) 12:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Theres a few things that need to be corrected in the article.
1. the touchscreen is a 320x460 at 163dpi blah blah blah, um but the iPhone 4 has a 960x640 resolution at 326dpi
2. picture of original iphone representing audio says audio is i think left and mic is right but on the 4 they switched it.
since this article has to have a neutral point-of-view and this ARTICLE IS A MAIN PAGE OF ALL THE IPHONES i think it should center on all four iphones. but the iPhone 4 breaks from the design older iphones used so you can't center them in one sentence like oh the touchscreen is a 320x460..... that use to work but now its different —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.111.193 ( talk) 06:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Could somebody please update this image to the 3G/3GS model so that a more recent image can be on the article (it is currently in the hardware section) - I would do so myself but I have no camera and I can obviously not use my iPhone to take a picture of itself :) thanks! 86.179.91.153 ( talk) 18:24, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Make it a picture of an iPhone 4 now. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Photoguy2801 ( talk • contribs) 03:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hello,
in the article about the iPhone, the table with the models shows various battery lifes... Only the battery life from the iPhone 3G isn't correct. iPhone 3G should be able to play for up to 36 hour of music or 6 hours of video. The iPhone 3GS for 30 hours of music and 8 hours of video...
The battery life of the iPhone 3G (by music) isn't 30 hours, but 24 hours (like said earlier in the text) to check: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
77.250.155.249 (
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07:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose a change to the following: Other carriers such as Verizon Wireless have been forced by the AT&T monopoly to focus on other types of smart phones such as those based on the Android (operating system).[207]
AT&T does not have a MONOPOLY on the iPhone, they have an exclusive distribution deal in the United States. There is no monopoly. Also Verizon is not "FORCED" to "focus" on anything else. They jsut offer differnt products. —Preceding
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68.7.87.91 (
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10:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I have updated the image on regarding the SIM locking etc to File:Iphonesimcard.JPG. I hope there is no objection as the previous photo was of an earlier discontinued model. If someone has a newer device and could update the article further this would be great. Thanks Luke2511 ( talk) 20:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the iPhone Wikipedia page has become to bloated. Is it possible to explain what the iPhone is in a nutshell on the main page and branch the models off into different pages. These phones have more than a small few features. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ev5unleash ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Apple has a section on there website where you can download images of their products and are aloud to be used to illustrate their products. Here's the link for the iPhone 4 image: http://www.apple.com/pr/products/iphone/iphone4_frontside_agreement.html
Could someone please check if the image is permitted to be used on Wikipedia, and if so, upload it please? 86.129.192.49 ( talk) 20:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm that administrator who protected the pages for articles on each model. The consensus, when I checked before the iPhone 4 announcement, was to use one article. My impression of the newly changed consensus is a lot of you are new to Wikipedia and are bursting at the seams with enthusiasm and ideas. My job is to temper that enthusiasm and create something orderly, informative, neutral, and cited out of that, which is a balancing act to say the least. My impression, though, is that I've gone from guiding the Wiki Process to blocking it. I have now unprotected:
I'm going to start with a very hands-off approach, and let the river of pent-up editing energy take its course. I won't even delete the redirects, for fear of "contaminating" the "experiment". If/when the activity stops, we'll see what we have and whether the subarticles are really the best idea, depending on the state of those subarticles. They may get merged into List of iOS devices or History of the iPhone. In the mean time, have at it. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 23:32, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed some edit warring in regards to the image at the top of the article. The previous consensus (read that) was that showing a blank screen failed to properly identify the iPhone because the screen is so integral to the product and there is so little hardware. For full disclosure, I agree with that sentiment and reverted once myself. But I don't like seeing people revert each other with no more than pithy edit summaries. So please,, let's discuss this in more detail. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 04:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
While I still prefer a shot of the interface, I had an idea that allows us to at least photograph the device powered on. I created File:IPhone free desktop.png, File:IPhone free desktop (retina).png, and File:IPad free desktop.png. They use either the same or a very similar image of earth on a black background as Apple, but without the UI or an attempted mockup. Next time someone does an iPhone photo shoot, they just have it on that image. (I couldn't do it for the iPhone 4 set I took today because we're having trouble getting it activated - long story.) But let me emphasize: the interface is preferred from an encyclopedic standpoint, if it acceptable from a copyright standpoint. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 05:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does this article not list the criticisms of the iPhone 4 ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.202.71.113 ( talk) 11:53, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
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— mono 20:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} All other mobile phone manufacturers Motorola, Nokia, Sony Ericsson and HTC describe their different phones as 'models'. iPhone models are for some reason called 'generations' See for instance Nokia_N900. Definition of Generation. Generations used in the context of technical development are normally associated with a major shift in the technology. A common example could be that tape cassettes is one generations and CD records next generation. I suspect that this is marketing language that found its way here.
I submit that in all iPhone references to 'generations' is replaced by 'model'.
Kindly B.
BroodingBear ( talk) 13:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Procedural comment: As this matter clearly requires some discussion to demonstrate consensus, I have removed the {{editsemiprotected}} above, for now. Please reinstate if there is a clear consensus to make the change (and if it is not done by other editors). Thanks, Chzz ► 11:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
In the Audio and output section it mentions that on the bottom of the phone, the speaker is on the left and the mic on the right. On my iPhone 4, they are swapped. Can any other iPhone 4 owners confirm this? Kgarr ( talk) 20:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
The Open Directory Project (DMOZ) should not be plugged by this article. The directory is weak, and contains only a few (mostly irrelevant) links regarding the iPhone. I propose that it is removed from the links altogether because it does not provide extra information, and does not add to the critical caliber of the Wiki page in general. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.87.123 ( talk) 08:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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This article does not mention processor type or speed of the iPhone models, after some searching I found it at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices#iPhone. Should this information not be in the main article since it is a significant specification on a device like this? Owen :-P 06:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Owen :-P 06:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, am I right, that the front-camera has no hd-capturing possibility? greets, -- Andreas -horn- Hornig ( talk) 16:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
This page is WAY too big its discusting to read even on my new desktop. Its too big!!!
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Existing text:
"Like the iPod, the iPhone is managed with iTunes. The earliest versions of the OS required version 7.3 or later, which is compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4.10 Tiger or later, and 32-bit or 64-bit Windows XP or Vista.[97] The release of iTunes 7.6 expanded this support to include 64-bit versions of XP and Vista,[98] and a workaround has been discovered for previous 64-bit Windows operating systems.[99]"
This is incorrect, as a (frustrated) owner of a Windows XP 64 bit OS I can assure you that iTunes does not support this system. This is confirmed here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1426?viewlocale=en_US
Revised text: "Like the iPod, the iPhone is managed with iTunes. The earliest versions of the OS required version 7.3 or later, which is compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4.10 Tiger or later and 32-bit Windows XP and later.[97] The release of iTunes 7.6 expanded this support to include 64-bit versions of Windows starting with Vista[98] and there are some approaches for trying to install iTunes on Windows XP 64-bit.[99]"
24.189.15.187 (
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03:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
The A4 is listed as both the processor and graphics for the iPhone 4, but it is divided among other models. The comment given for this is "iPhone 4 graphics included under processor". This is basically a misconception of how ARM devices work. What people often call Processors are System on Chips, the A4 is one of them, so is something like a Snapdragon used on many other popular smartphones. They both have a similar 1GHz Cortex-A8 CPU, which is designed by ARM the company. The GPU, among other things, are built into the SoCs as well; the A4 using a PowerVR 535, and the Snapdragon using an Adreno 200. Unless anyone has a problem with it, I will fix it soon TMV943 ( talk) 04:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I think it's weird that the Hardware section has no information about the processor and other things that are available further down the page. -- 82.171.70.54 ( talk) 13:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
"Internet access is available when the iPhone is connected to a local area Wi-Fi or a wide area GSM or EDGE network, both second-generation (2G) wireless data standards. The iPhone 3G introduced support for third-generation UMTS and HSDPA 3.6,[118] but not HSUPA networks, and only the iPhone 3GS supports HSDPA 7.2.[119] AT&T introduced 3G in July 2004,[120] but as late as 2007 Steve Jobs stated that it was still not widespread enough in the US, and the chipsets not energy efficient enough, to be included in the iPhone.[22][121] Support for 802.1X, an authentication system commonly used by university and corporate Wi-Fi networks, was added in the 2.0 version update.[122]" (from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone) should now read:
Internet access is available when the iPhone is connected to a local area Wi-Fi, a wide area GSM or EDGE network, which are second-generation (2G) wireless data standards, or a HSDPA or UMTS third-generation (3G) network.. The iPhone 3G introduced support for third-generation UMTS and HSDPA 3.6,[118] and the iPhone 4 introduced support for HSUPA networks. Both the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 support HSDPA 7.2.[119] AT&T introduced 3G in July 2004,[120] but as late as 2007 Steve Jobs stated that it was still not widespread enough in the US, and the chipsets not energy efficient enough, to be included in the iPhone.[22][121] Support for 802.1X, an authentication system commonly used by university and corporate Wi-Fi networks, was added in the 2.0 version update.[122] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnmackay13 ( talk • contribs) 00:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
While it seems that there used to be a "Counterfeit iPhones" section back in 2008, it seems to border on denial not even acknowledging the phenomenon on the current page. Reliable press reports (e.g. [3], [4]) suggest this is a significant and ongoing issue, so why aren't we even mentioning it? Nick Cooper ( talk) 12:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
according to the official website of orange ( http://www.orange.tn/orange-tunisie/cid1468-jeu-concours.html) the iPhone 4 is coming soon (click on the "grand jeu iPhone" tab) can you please update the world map and make Tunisia green? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.226.244.198 ( talk) 23:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
The iPhone 4 is now officially available in Tunisia..map needs an update —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.230.135.45 ( talk) 22:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
I think this article should cover or reference the Apps ecosystem and development environment. It might be worth mentioning app development only being allowed on Apple computers and only after purchasing a license. I might be worth mentioning app-approval controversy and potential anti-competitive behavior by Apple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GregorLarson ( talk • contribs) 00:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The article mentions that the iPhone can be sim-unlocked in Australia. It should also mention it's sold completely unlocked by apple and its resellers (always - there is no carrier-tied version sold by Apple anywhere in Aus). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.48.18 ( talk) 07:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Source? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 15:13, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101006/ts_nm/us_apple_verizon
This should be added somewhere on the page, I think. Mellophonius ( talk) 20:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
From your updated wiki article: "The Wall Street Journal stated on October 6, 2010 that a CDMA version of the iPhone 4 would be released 1st quarter 2011 for release to Verizon Wireless."
This is still speculation, as is clear by the quotes from Apple and Verizon.
Despite the tail wagging the dog headlines in the NYT and WSJ, there has been no formal announcement from either Apple or Verizon, so as yet, this is still unconfirmed and simply speculation. Agave Anejo ( talk) 14:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Here is further proof that a Verizon iPhone is not possible at this time regardless of the Wall Street Journal's "confirmed" sources. There is a 5 year exclusivity deal between AT&T (Cingular) and Apple that was made in 2007.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2007-05-21-at&t-iphone_N.htm
There have been rumors of a Verizon iPhone for years, why does this one all of a sudden deserve credence? I'd remove it myself, but every time I do something like that, I get backlash and a note on my user page about editing stuff -- FiveIron ( talk) 22:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I ended up making the edit because there seemed to be no objections for over a week. The evidence against (5-year contract with AT&T, no data and voice at the same time) a CDMA iPhone is stronger than for ("reliable sources"), and this has been speculated
since the original iPhone, and has yet to come to fruition. WP:NEWSORG states "Wikipedia is not the place for passing along gossip and rumors.", even if WSJ is reputable (not disputed). While a mere sentence about an unreleased product is not covered by it, I believe it goes against the spirit of WP:CRYSTAL -- FiveIron ( talk) 02:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't call this speculation, yet It can't be stated as fact. There have been numerous news outlets that have confirmed VZ iPhone from sources (WSJ, NYT, Bloomberg, and Fortune). In addition, there have been confirmation from Asian suppliers. Apple and VZ of course don't comment on unofficial news releases. I disagree that the 5-year agreement is stronger evidence. Those agreements aren't written in stone, and in fact have many clauses and stipulations. On a conference call, Apple management stated that it wasn't married to any one carrier and that it could change at anytime. However, they stated Apple chooses to enter exclusive agreements in particular situations where they make the most sense. The original agreement is 4 years old and it's likely that is have been modified multiple times sense. When asked at the D8 conference last summer "if it would make sense to open iPhone to more carriers in the US" Steve Jobs replied along the lines of "maybe" or "it could" ""it might" (can't remember exactly) however this was a stark departure from previous comments from Apple management which defended the decision of exclusivity due to the cooperation if afforded by AT&T to allow visual voicemail, iTunes downloads, App store etc. I think the reports are credible and shouldn't be dismissed but also shouldn't be treated as indisputable fact. I know there have been rumors of VZ iPhone for years, however none of those sources were credible just speculation from pundits and analysts. In contrast, these recent reports originate from highly reputable new organizations that have multiple sources which they have vetted. I follow Apple and the industry very closely being a top-ranked independent analyst and in my opinion it's a done deal. I think it deserves attention. I believe there should be mention of all the reputable news organizations that have independently confirmed the deal. That is pertinent. Tmuller2 ( talk) 17:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I am Turley Muller, analyst, but you have made some assumptions about me. I have no clients, I have NO financial interest in whether something is written/not written on Wikipedia or anywhere else for that matter. My mission is to share analysis and insight to counter what is being passed off as "research" that is actually propaganda in some form. I don't know if you really read what I wrote AT ALL- I clearly stated that an imminent VZ iPhone was NOT a fact and should not be treated as such. I However, it is a fact that WSJ, NYT, Bloomberg, and Fortune- the most reputable news organizations have all independently confirmed it. That did it happen, that is a fact. Those organizations are putting their reputations on the line. Now can we say it's a fact that there will be a VZ iPhone? Of course not. I wasn't trying to lobby that it should be. I agree with your position completely since there hasn't been official confirmation from VZ or Apple. I was just thinking that the mass of VZ speculation that has gone on since day one is a pertinent part of the iPhone's history, the fact that people have been hoping and waiting.... and waiting.... unsubstantiated reports one after another continued to prove to be false, to the point where now that we have finally got some credible reports, many are quick to dismiss it since they have been hearing that forever already. It doesn't really matter now, we will know in a few weeks for certain, one way or another. Tmuller2 ( talk) 09:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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The line that reads, "Voice control, available only on the iPhone 3GS," should be "Voice control, available on the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4,".
Thomas Aylesworth (
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20:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Information about the iPhone CF (Conflict Free) should be added, which is functional as the "normal" iPhone but in contrast to the standard model does not use materials from conflict regions and thereby does not support child soldiers. 128.40.82.38 ( talk) 03:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
As mentioned correctly on the List of iOS devices page, the iPhone 4 supports 802.11n wifi on the 2.4ghz band. This could be added to the 'connectivity' part. TumbleCow ( talk) 17:56, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion about a proposal to move iOS (Apple) to iOS. See Talk:IOS_(Apple)#Requested_Move. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 21:29, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I think that the criticism of the iPhone should be included in this article. E.g. have a look at the German article:
I notice that DESPITE Apple using their iPhone market dominance to censor and sue everyone else. There is no section that deals with this treading! Just mention the top of the censorship iceberg: expertreviews.co.uk/tablet-pcs/278896/apple-censors-james-joyces-ulysses-on-the-ipad
wired.com/epicenter/2010/04/apple-bans-satire/
Electron9 ( talk) 13:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Armenia, Tunisia, Vietnam and Costa Rica need to be added to the map per the individual iPhone pages off http://www.apple.com/choose-your-country/. I would do it, but the file is a bloody svg not a png, so I don't know how... Thanks Bernerd ( talk) 12:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
The article says "Apple created the device during a secretive and unprecedented collaboration with AT&T Mobility—Cingular Wireless at the time—at an estimated development cost of US$150 million over thirty months.[6] Apple rejected the "design by committee" approach that had yielded the Motorola ROKR E1" What I'm wondering is which one is it? Was collaborating with a cell phone company when designing the phone "unprecedented", or had a different phone, "the Motorola ROKR E1", already been created through the same process? 99.255.58.85 ( talk) 20:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I have an issue with the non-capitalization of the "i" in iPhone, on the page heading. According to what I have learned from all of the people who have reverted my edits on Japanese song titles (I put them with the unusual capitalization and all, but they change them back to capital first letter, and lowercase the rest) that use alternating caps, or unusual lower or uppercase styles for song titles (such as the woman who has two songs, one called Joy, and one called joy, for example), the 'iPhone' title needs to be spelled 'Iphone.' I've had lengthy discussions about this topic with others on wiki, so there needs to be a final say-so on this issue that I can cite as I go around correcting song titles... or, change the iPhone titles to Iphone. Is unusual capitalization, such as with 'iPhone' allowed or not? -- NatsukiGirl\ talk 17:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
In lieu of the recent facts, I propose that a new section based on iPhone controversies should be made. It could contains sections from intellectual property and restrictions. And not to conflict with
WP:CRYSTAL, but I sincerely doubt this is going to be the last of the controversies from Apple. Expecially given the fact that they want to use fingerprint ID and facial recognition features in the future.
AGiorgio08
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09:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
It sounds like your just trying to downplay the severity of the entire incident. "Hear" has valid sources explaining what he was doing. Also it's amazing that you just mentions WP:CIVILITY and then said "Do you understand or should I get out my crayons?" Thats not very civil. Wikipedia is about neutralizing facts, not just leaning such incidents in favour of what the general public would want to hear. AGiorgio08 talk 16:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
"constantly"??? How often is that? I'd love to see a reliable source that actually tells us how often. I couldn't find one. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:01, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
From the source I cited (which was written by Alasdair Allan and Peter Warden, the people who created the iPhoneTracker app): "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure." How does this not support my recent edit, which you just reverted (while making yet another accusation about my motivation in editing)? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
BTW Jason X. Chen, Peter Warden and Alasdair Allan don't have Wikipedia articles. Should we just remove the entire paragraph until the do? If that is the rule for judging whether someone is a reliable source. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 19:54, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I've listed this at Wikipedia:Third opinion. You haven't made it clear, you've edited again to say that the file contains user locations. When the two authors of the iPhoneTracker application actually say on their blog that they aren't clear. "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure. Sean has another map that overlays actual tower locations with his points, and it's clear they don't coincide, but could well be triangulated from multiple towers. Sean's observation fits with our initial hypothesis that the locations are the result of sometimes-inaccurate triangulation from towers, but Peter's is evidence that there's a bias in the data to clustering around tower positions." And suggesting that we don't reference blogs is a bit of a problem when all the research on this still unclear issue is being done on blogs. Perhaps we should just remove the section entirely and wait until we actually have a clear picture what is happening here, instead of reporting on an issue that is ongoing and unclear. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 20:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm not exactly an uninvolved editor, since I've edited the iPhone article for years, but I can provide a third opinion. Frankly I'm wondering what the particular issue is. Is it regarding the inclusion of a controversies section, or the particular controversy itself? The proposal to add a section about controversies or criticisms has come up time and again in this article, to the extent that it was addressed in the FAQ at the top of this talk page. As a short explanation, such sections are discouraged both for neutrality purposes and because it makes for better article writing. As to the specific information, we need to be absolutely certain that the information is verifiable. If that's the dispute I can take a look and weigh in. I'm certainly not opposed to adding negative information to the article that is noteworthy, I was the person who originally added the information about the liquid contact indicators being triggered through routine use. -- Atama 頭 18:12, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The request for a 3O was about whether the article should say that the consolidated.db file "constantly stores the iPhone user's movement", when the authors of the iPhoneTracker app (who I'm assuming you know kicked off this recent media frenzy) are now saying on their blog that it isn't clear whether the records in the file are estimated user locations or cell tower locations. "Intriguingly, their work also has some support for Will Clarke's idea that the locations are associated with cell towers. Peter's data shows a cluster around Mile High Stadium, which he hasn't visited recently but which does have a lot of cell infrastructure. Sean has another map that overlays actual tower locations with his points, and it's clear they don't coincide, but could well be triangulated from multiple towers. Sean's observation fits with our initial hypothesis that the locations are the result of sometimes-inaccurate triangulation from towers, but Peter's is evidence that there's a bias in the data to clustering around tower positions." http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/more-iphone-tracking-research.html AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 18:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. We are stating in the article that we know what this file does. But at this point, it doesn't appear that anyone (aside from Apple who aren't talking) really knows for sure. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 20:08, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
What? Apple builds cell towers now? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 23:57, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The edits from April 23rd onwards are the points of contention. The issue is pretty much reduced to just do we say the file "constantly stores the iPhone user's movement" or do we say the file stored timestamped locations and there is ongoing debate about what these actually refer to. On a side-note, can I say for the record, Apple do not build cell phone towers. If someone wants to prove otherwise with a reliable source, please do. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 01:05, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I can't find the controversy mentioned in the article. Wikipedia doesn't search for the truth, but instead, it just describes the facts. And this controversy is quite a remarkable fact. Both sides of the story worth to be mentioned - the claims that iPhone records the data - and the denial of such thing from Apple. — Ark25 ( talk) 20:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Jonathan Ive, the designer behind all the modern Apple devices hasn't been mentioned in any one of the articles associated with the Apple devices he created, you could argue that Ive is the reason Apple is so famous today, I can only assume it's either due to ignorance or deliberate. Twobells ( talk)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/?title=Jesus_phone&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.100.174.136 ( talk) 00:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_January_29#Jesus_phone_.E2.86.92_iPhone :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegovb ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Nominated for deletion here. AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 17:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
An Apple store in Canada has appeared in local news because it allowed a thief to replace a stolen iPhone4 without verifying their identity, and when the legal owner found out the store is in possession of the stolen phone, the store refused to release the phone despite police involvement. [6] [7] The following appeared as part of an editorial in the news: "Why would they do this, you might ask? Setting up a transfer-of-ownership system would cost Apple millions of dollars, and take up thousands of hours of time from support staff and sales clerks at stores. Time that could be spent resolving technical issues, or selling Apple's pricey fare. And guess what an iPhone4 owner will do when his/heriPhone is stolen? That's right, they'll buy a new one."
Is this worthy of inclusion in one of the articles? Shawnc ( talk) 02:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I think we should include a mile long list of "missing features", just like Windows Mobile has one in the section "criticism". To be honest, YES I am a big fan of Microsoft and YES I definitely hate Apple, but Wikipedia has to stay neutral. This includes IMHO that comparable platforms get "judged" the same way. (Ok, most of the following points are mentioned somewhere in the article, but there is no dedicated "criticism" section.) Things I would suggest: - no microUSB port - storage is not extendable - even worse: battery is not removable - no flash - forced to use itunes for synchronization - no "side-loading" of apps possible (officially/without jailbreaking) - no possibility to use custom roms/modified firmware - Software for MacOS does NOT run on iOS! - Capacitive display makes it impossible to use a stylus - no file explorer (this is important to mention, since the Windows Mobile article "criticises" that WinMob can't change file properties without third-party software. Unability of changing file properties must me mentioned too, consequently) 178.26.100.27 ( talk) 14:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Under heading #2 Hardware, sub heading Screen Input, the sentence which reads, "Directly above the volume controls is a silence switch that mutes all sound when engaged." should read, "Directly above the volume controls is a silence switch that mutes all sound when engaged, except for any alarms set using the phones built in alarm system." or something to that effect. Bolt 45 ( talk) 05:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Each of the different iPhone pages has a generation listed. The Original is 1G, 3G is 2G, but the 3GS is listed as 3. If the iPhone 4S is listed as 4.5, isn't the 3GS just as much a 2.5 generation? The 3GS offered nothing more than a few bumped specs, just like the 4S. Anybody else think that the 4 should get bumped down to the 3rd generation? DanielDPeterson ( talk) 18:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree. I think it should be changed. Wikimann1234 10/11/11
Please remove the statement - "In 2011 the iPhone 4 was voted the Best Mobile Phone On Earth". This is highly misleading, as there were only 33 votes cast for this device. As the size of this poll is ridiculously small, it should not be sited in this article. Shame on you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.210.35 ( talk) 22:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
This site is used by many lazy journalists- most of whom seem to believe that Apple invented the "smart phone"-it would be useful to have a historical perspective, perhaps suggesting that other handsets such as the HTC Athena, released months earlier was/were technically superior. I appreciate that this is not an open forum but following the death of Jobs the press are rewriting history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.116.183.42 ( talk) 19:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Something I've never understood. We deliberately blank out the image of the operating system in images like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iphone_4G-3_black_screen.png because Apple own the design of the operating system. How is it okay to show the external casing of the iPhone? Don't Apple own that too? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 08:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)