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Why does something this widespread have NO criticisms section of any kind? The iPhone is NOT perfect and this page can't possibly be bconsidered neutral if it doesn't cover any crticisms of the phone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.30.238.67 ( talk) 05:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
It's incredibly naive to suggest that people don't use Wikipedia as a "buyer's guide", and furthermore, avoiding a criticism section on this page and not on the pages of other similar products is an incredible double standard. So unless you're going to all the other pages for cell phones and getting rid of the criticism sections, I don't think you can make that argument. To avoid the double standard, I have changed the name of the section. I am in the process of trying to get rid of the criticism section in the page for one of the iphone's competitors, Android.
Here's another fact for you: the OS X page also does not have a criticism section; there is an entire article of criticism for Windows. Style and formatting are not the problems; the problem is one of bias. I have tried to lobby for the deletion of the ciriticism pages, but I was shot down multiple times. So clearly, criticism sections are here to stay and you can't crusade against them only on subjects you like -- Unknownwarrior33 ( talk) 16:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1349562 Nokia sues Apple in Delaware District Court for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patent
Nokia announced that it has today filed a complaint against Apple with the Federal District Court in Delaware, alleging that Apple's iPhone infringes Nokia patents for GSM, UMTS and wireless LAN (WLAN) standards.
Should this be included in the section about intellectual property of iphone? -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 04:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
definatly belongs.. added it and your ref to article.. feel free to expand on it -
Tracer9999 (
talk)
14:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
The introduction says that the iPhone is in its second generation. It is actually in its third generation. Would someone please fix? 68.35.20.151 ( talk) 13:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Not done. The editsemiprotected request needs to be clarified as "please change X to Y". This was not done in this instance. However, I have removed the statement that the iPone is in its second generation, as there is already a description of the 3 generations in the
lead. Please feel free to message me if you feel this is not adequate.
DigitalC (
talk)
14:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
Could someone please edit "and can render 262,144 colours" to "and uses 18-bit colour (can render 262,144 colours)." It just means that slightly more technical information is available without having to sit and work it out with a calculator.
I think the article ought to mention the external moisture sensors and outrage about it. -- TMC1221 ( talk) 18:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Surely the link in the first paragraph should be to virtual keyobaord not virtual keyboard as it currently is.-- Confusedmiked ( talk) 15:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Compared to other smart phone articles this one looks far too much like an advertisement, or at least an article about smart phones in general. This should be only about the Iphone and not about the whole kind of phones. Also the Ipod references,they are making this look like an advert that says 'Hey, look this is just like the good old Ipod, so you'll find it easy to use! You can even use the same charger!'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.70.202 ( talk) 17:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
This entire article reads like a brochure from Apple to make them money.It does not discuss comparative features available on mobile phones, but instead focuses on the new echnology that is available on the iphone.To accept that the iphone is only a brilliant breakthrough technology is below the objective standards of wikipedia, and denigrates the efforts made to keep neutral point of view in articles. For example; on the iphone there is no incoming call list, and call tracking is a standard feature of mobile phone technology. Business people like to find who has called them, when and what number. To leave this feature off a "mobile phone" is stupid.The iphone dazzles people with its features, but has left a basic function unavailable. Is wikipedia just a weak willed kind of techno-porn publication that strokes the egos of the all powerful Apple ? I'm sure the protection on the article will alert the servants of Apple to delete my irreverant edit. Ern Malleyscrub ( talk) 06:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} The page should include the following information: "In Brazil, the carriers Claro, Vivo and Tim offer a Authorized SIM Unlocking <Here should be the reference> ."
This info can be verified at (this is the reference) Apple Official Support Website under the "Latin America and Caribbean" link, to which can't be hot linked since it is made in javascript. -- Luxiel ( talk) 23:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Not done I have, however, cleaned up that section to be more coherent and fair. We can't just laundry list all the countries. I have given the UK and Australia special mention because of the English speakers there. Sorry. (Although anyone else is welcome to chime in.)
HereToHelp (
talk to me)
01:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
"While the iPhone was initially sold on the AT&T network only with a SIM lock in place, various hackers have found methods to "unlock" the phone from a specific network."
This quote from the SIM Unlocking section of the article is relevant only to users in the U.S., but does not make mention of such a fact. I would request that this be changed, as both the iPhone and Wikipedia are available worldwide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.236.98 ( talk) 03:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Looks fine, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.81.143 ( talk) 08:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only one who feels the image could show the home screen instead of being a turned off iPhone? -- EssentialParadox ( talk) 15:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
And I would say that without the home screen it looks like an unidentifiable black brick. It is, of course, subjective, but I feel that an image without the home screen is insufficient to inform readers that they have reached the correct article, and what the device looks like. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 01:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
But as the home screen is copyrighted software doesn't it have to be released under some sort of "fair-use" licence? My plan was to ask on a forum for someone to take a photo and the licences are clearly confusing and I guess I can't go and change the licence later if I don't upload the image (and I don't have a 3GS). -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 21:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 | Archive 21 |
Why does something this widespread have NO criticisms section of any kind? The iPhone is NOT perfect and this page can't possibly be bconsidered neutral if it doesn't cover any crticisms of the phone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.30.238.67 ( talk) 05:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
It's incredibly naive to suggest that people don't use Wikipedia as a "buyer's guide", and furthermore, avoiding a criticism section on this page and not on the pages of other similar products is an incredible double standard. So unless you're going to all the other pages for cell phones and getting rid of the criticism sections, I don't think you can make that argument. To avoid the double standard, I have changed the name of the section. I am in the process of trying to get rid of the criticism section in the page for one of the iphone's competitors, Android.
Here's another fact for you: the OS X page also does not have a criticism section; there is an entire article of criticism for Windows. Style and formatting are not the problems; the problem is one of bias. I have tried to lobby for the deletion of the ciriticism pages, but I was shot down multiple times. So clearly, criticism sections are here to stay and you can't crusade against them only on subjects you like -- Unknownwarrior33 ( talk) 16:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1349562 Nokia sues Apple in Delaware District Court for infringement of Nokia GSM, UMTS and WLAN patent
Nokia announced that it has today filed a complaint against Apple with the Federal District Court in Delaware, alleging that Apple's iPhone infringes Nokia patents for GSM, UMTS and wireless LAN (WLAN) standards.
Should this be included in the section about intellectual property of iphone? -- Quest for Truth ( talk) 04:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
definatly belongs.. added it and your ref to article.. feel free to expand on it -
Tracer9999 (
talk)
14:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
The introduction says that the iPhone is in its second generation. It is actually in its third generation. Would someone please fix? 68.35.20.151 ( talk) 13:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Not done. The editsemiprotected request needs to be clarified as "please change X to Y". This was not done in this instance. However, I have removed the statement that the iPone is in its second generation, as there is already a description of the 3 generations in the
lead. Please feel free to message me if you feel this is not adequate.
DigitalC (
talk)
14:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
Could someone please edit "and can render 262,144 colours" to "and uses 18-bit colour (can render 262,144 colours)." It just means that slightly more technical information is available without having to sit and work it out with a calculator.
I think the article ought to mention the external moisture sensors and outrage about it. -- TMC1221 ( talk) 18:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Surely the link in the first paragraph should be to virtual keyobaord not virtual keyboard as it currently is.-- Confusedmiked ( talk) 15:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Compared to other smart phone articles this one looks far too much like an advertisement, or at least an article about smart phones in general. This should be only about the Iphone and not about the whole kind of phones. Also the Ipod references,they are making this look like an advert that says 'Hey, look this is just like the good old Ipod, so you'll find it easy to use! You can even use the same charger!'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.70.202 ( talk) 17:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
This entire article reads like a brochure from Apple to make them money.It does not discuss comparative features available on mobile phones, but instead focuses on the new echnology that is available on the iphone.To accept that the iphone is only a brilliant breakthrough technology is below the objective standards of wikipedia, and denigrates the efforts made to keep neutral point of view in articles. For example; on the iphone there is no incoming call list, and call tracking is a standard feature of mobile phone technology. Business people like to find who has called them, when and what number. To leave this feature off a "mobile phone" is stupid.The iphone dazzles people with its features, but has left a basic function unavailable. Is wikipedia just a weak willed kind of techno-porn publication that strokes the egos of the all powerful Apple ? I'm sure the protection on the article will alert the servants of Apple to delete my irreverant edit. Ern Malleyscrub ( talk) 06:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} The page should include the following information: "In Brazil, the carriers Claro, Vivo and Tim offer a Authorized SIM Unlocking <Here should be the reference> ."
This info can be verified at (this is the reference) Apple Official Support Website under the "Latin America and Caribbean" link, to which can't be hot linked since it is made in javascript. -- Luxiel ( talk) 23:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Not done I have, however, cleaned up that section to be more coherent and fair. We can't just laundry list all the countries. I have given the UK and Australia special mention because of the English speakers there. Sorry. (Although anyone else is welcome to chime in.)
HereToHelp (
talk to me)
01:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
"While the iPhone was initially sold on the AT&T network only with a SIM lock in place, various hackers have found methods to "unlock" the phone from a specific network."
This quote from the SIM Unlocking section of the article is relevant only to users in the U.S., but does not make mention of such a fact. I would request that this be changed, as both the iPhone and Wikipedia are available worldwide. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.236.98 ( talk) 03:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Looks fine, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.81.143 ( talk) 08:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Am I the only one who feels the image could show the home screen instead of being a turned off iPhone? -- EssentialParadox ( talk) 15:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
And I would say that without the home screen it looks like an unidentifiable black brick. It is, of course, subjective, but I feel that an image without the home screen is insufficient to inform readers that they have reached the correct article, and what the device looks like. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 01:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
But as the home screen is copyrighted software doesn't it have to be released under some sort of "fair-use" licence? My plan was to ask on a forum for someone to take a photo and the licences are clearly confusing and I guess I can't go and change the licence later if I don't upload the image (and I don't have a 3GS). -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 21:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)