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I and Guy have edited and approved the writeup on "problems" associated with iOS 11. Please do not remove it without first discussing on the talk board. Please provide justifications for the removal, since these issues were widely discussed in the media with plenty of citations. If you do work for Apple, then there is a conflict of interests here. Wikipedia is for the public, and hence the inclusion of the issues. Fellow007 (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
@Fellow007: Please see the articles for the previous versions of iOS, we don’t mention every single issue faced, only significantly major ones (we have three right now). And we don’t use Apple Support as a source. Darius robin (talk) 16:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Darius: Those issues written were major that were reported in major news media that deserve mention in Wikipedia. These are public news media. Why are you censoring it? Do you work for Apple? If so, there is a conflict of interests here and you shouldn't be editong. Wikipedia is for the public. Fellow007 (talk) 16:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Fellow007: Most of them are unsourced, and the ones that are sourced are already mentioned in the article. And FYI, I do not work for Apple. Stop assuming things. Darius robin (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Darius: I saw you also removed the section on "iOS versions" wikipedia page. You removed the whole writeup and not keeping any citations. Your actions are much like censorship and not revealing public facts and new media. I would like other editors to chip in for discussion. Meantime, may I suggest you retract from you undo? I will put forward to Wiki admin for discussion and approval Fellow007 (talk) 16:42, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Given the recent wide press and media coverage on the problems of iOS v11, I would like to suggest the inclusion of a subsection on this topic and references to various articles reporting on the problems. Since this page is on iOS 11, I think this is the right place for this subsection. Fellow007 ( talk) 21:40, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I added a notice in the lead that this was an upcoming release. I got reverted arguing that the betas are already out. I always thought software was considered unreleased up to the point where it makes it to public (non-beta) release. -- uKER ( talk) 02:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
So I read a lot about 3D-Touch related to this release, which is helpful, but then at the end of the article there is mention that 3D-Touch has been dropped from this iOS version... Isn't tnis is a bit confusing? Or am I missing something? Dr.khatmando ( talk) 02:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hold on, I think it just means that triggering multitasking using 3D Touch has been removed... Dr.khatmando ( talk) 02:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
@ KamranMackey: YOU are pretty sure, but do you have a confirmation from Apple? WP:SPECULATION. That’s it. Darius robin ( talk) 07:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
As the saying goes, it ain't over 'till it's over.
Maybe "Beta 10 of iOS 11 was the Golden Master AND the final release, with the exception of the GM & final release having the "a" omitted from the Beta 10 version string (15A5372a/15A5372)", but we need a citation on that, not a "I think I know what I'm talking about." claim. Apple doesn't say anything obvious about that on developer.apple.com; if you have a citation, let's see it. (And it's been a while since I retired from Apple 6 years ago, but, from my days as a Core OS software engineer, I don't remember offhand any case where they dropped the letter at the end of the build number, rather than bumping the build number; as I remember, that letter is for minor tweaks to a build that don't involve a complete build of all the projects, and going from 15A5372a to 15A5372 would mean that the GM was missing those tweaks.)
So I'd personally wait for 11.1 to come out before we talk about what is, or isn't, in it, anywhere other than the 11.1 beta section of iOS version history. Guy Harris ( talk) 08:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
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LocalNet, On statistics, it seems better than just trusting Apple's WP:PRIMARY info that no one can know if is true or unbiased? It needs not be StatCounter (only). I'm striclty ok with you dropping the *statistics* info, at least for now. It seemed to me they contradicted Apple's but it was just my mistake. I just added it back (corrected) for confirmation, and it even shows more adoption (while it uses a different way to get info, i.e. [web] usage vs. installed base).
About the "implication" part that's in (or was before you dropped all info), that's useful to have from any source. The press release as good as any? But just discuss at that at iOS Talk to not split that discussion. comp.arch ( talk) 11:09, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
I cut several sentences from the intro on the grounds that they were at least needlessly detailed for the intro, at worst fully redundant, and in all cases reprised either in the System Features or Reception sections or both. LocalNet reverted and asked me to explain. So, for example:
So: convinced?
One more thing: LocalNet, perhaps inadvertently, reverted an edit that made several tweaks to the intro, including switching several present-tense verbs to the more accurate past tense. As no mention of that revert was mentioned in the edit summary, I'll restore them unless anyone objects. PRRfan ( talk) 20:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Please, write below whether you are in favor or against the removal of the succession box from all the iOS articles (from iPhone OS 1 to iOS 11). This "poll" will be active for 24 hours, so enough editors have the chance to express their opinions – Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 21:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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is totally useless if you don't sign your message, because in that I won't receive any echo notifications.IPhone 5s Maniyosefi ( talk) 15:47, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Not appear
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Actually I'm just trying to find a bug on Screen Time lol Hui WalkerX ( talk) 02:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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I and Guy have edited and approved the writeup on "problems" associated with iOS 11. Please do not remove it without first discussing on the talk board. Please provide justifications for the removal, since these issues were widely discussed in the media with plenty of citations. If you do work for Apple, then there is a conflict of interests here. Wikipedia is for the public, and hence the inclusion of the issues. Fellow007 (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
@Fellow007: Please see the articles for the previous versions of iOS, we don’t mention every single issue faced, only significantly major ones (we have three right now). And we don’t use Apple Support as a source. Darius robin (talk) 16:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Darius: Those issues written were major that were reported in major news media that deserve mention in Wikipedia. These are public news media. Why are you censoring it? Do you work for Apple? If so, there is a conflict of interests here and you shouldn't be editong. Wikipedia is for the public. Fellow007 (talk) 16:34, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Fellow007: Most of them are unsourced, and the ones that are sourced are already mentioned in the article. And FYI, I do not work for Apple. Stop assuming things. Darius robin (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC) @Darius: I saw you also removed the section on "iOS versions" wikipedia page. You removed the whole writeup and not keeping any citations. Your actions are much like censorship and not revealing public facts and new media. I would like other editors to chip in for discussion. Meantime, may I suggest you retract from you undo? I will put forward to Wiki admin for discussion and approval Fellow007 (talk) 16:42, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Given the recent wide press and media coverage on the problems of iOS v11, I would like to suggest the inclusion of a subsection on this topic and references to various articles reporting on the problems. Since this page is on iOS 11, I think this is the right place for this subsection. Fellow007 ( talk) 21:40, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
I added a notice in the lead that this was an upcoming release. I got reverted arguing that the betas are already out. I always thought software was considered unreleased up to the point where it makes it to public (non-beta) release. -- uKER ( talk) 02:48, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
So I read a lot about 3D-Touch related to this release, which is helpful, but then at the end of the article there is mention that 3D-Touch has been dropped from this iOS version... Isn't tnis is a bit confusing? Or am I missing something? Dr.khatmando ( talk) 02:47, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Hold on, I think it just means that triggering multitasking using 3D Touch has been removed... Dr.khatmando ( talk) 02:51, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
@ KamranMackey: YOU are pretty sure, but do you have a confirmation from Apple? WP:SPECULATION. That’s it. Darius robin ( talk) 07:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
As the saying goes, it ain't over 'till it's over.
Maybe "Beta 10 of iOS 11 was the Golden Master AND the final release, with the exception of the GM & final release having the "a" omitted from the Beta 10 version string (15A5372a/15A5372)", but we need a citation on that, not a "I think I know what I'm talking about." claim. Apple doesn't say anything obvious about that on developer.apple.com; if you have a citation, let's see it. (And it's been a while since I retired from Apple 6 years ago, but, from my days as a Core OS software engineer, I don't remember offhand any case where they dropped the letter at the end of the build number, rather than bumping the build number; as I remember, that letter is for minor tweaks to a build that don't involve a complete build of all the projects, and going from 15A5372a to 15A5372 would mean that the GM was missing those tweaks.)
So I'd personally wait for 11.1 to come out before we talk about what is, or isn't, in it, anywhere other than the 11.1 beta section of iOS version history. Guy Harris ( talk) 08:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
References
LocalNet, On statistics, it seems better than just trusting Apple's WP:PRIMARY info that no one can know if is true or unbiased? It needs not be StatCounter (only). I'm striclty ok with you dropping the *statistics* info, at least for now. It seemed to me they contradicted Apple's but it was just my mistake. I just added it back (corrected) for confirmation, and it even shows more adoption (while it uses a different way to get info, i.e. [web] usage vs. installed base).
About the "implication" part that's in (or was before you dropped all info), that's useful to have from any source. The press release as good as any? But just discuss at that at iOS Talk to not split that discussion. comp.arch ( talk) 11:09, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
I cut several sentences from the intro on the grounds that they were at least needlessly detailed for the intro, at worst fully redundant, and in all cases reprised either in the System Features or Reception sections or both. LocalNet reverted and asked me to explain. So, for example:
So: convinced?
One more thing: LocalNet, perhaps inadvertently, reverted an edit that made several tweaks to the intro, including switching several present-tense verbs to the more accurate past tense. As no mention of that revert was mentioned in the edit summary, I'll restore them unless anyone objects. PRRfan ( talk) 20:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Please, write below whether you are in favor or against the removal of the succession box from all the iOS articles (from iPhone OS 1 to iOS 11). This "poll" will be active for 24 hours, so enough editors have the chance to express their opinions – Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 21:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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Re|Codename Lisa}}
is totally useless if you don't sign your message, because in that I won't receive any echo notifications.IPhone 5s Maniyosefi ( talk) 15:47, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Not appear
Maniyosefi ( talk) 15:47, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Actually I'm just trying to find a bug on Screen Time lol Hui WalkerX ( talk) 02:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)