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Meanwhile, ICANN is seeking to privatize itself, withdrawing from its connections to the US Government and the US Department of Commerce. -- considering this, I keep wondering how, in lieu of this morning's news (see Slashdot), just how the United Nations would plan on taking over this organization and its tasks if the ITU gets what it wants. -- 69.234.232.55 04:38, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I need to use the domain somewhereovertherainbow.com trying to copyright it i have a common law divorce coming up against my husband domestic violence and sex Trafficing. BonnieMaynard ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
I need to use the domain somewhereovertherainbow.com trying to copyright it i have a common law divorce coming up against my husband domestic violence and sex Trafficing. BonnieMaynard ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Is there any reason not to move this to Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers? Most of the other related bodies IETF, IESG, IANA, etc are all at their full names. Noel (talk) 16:31, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
The result of the debate was no move Ardenn 17:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
There was an improperly formatted requested move on WP:RM from the current article state ( ICANN) to Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
with the comment
Completing request here - please give your opinions below. WhiteNight T | @ | C 17:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
The second half of the section "Arguments about ICANN" contains useful information and ought not, I think, be deleted. Still, it requires significant cleanup to conform to NPOV. Note especially the reference to UDRP as "hideous", the unsubstantiated claim that "many experts" believe ICANN is a "corrupt monopoly", and the direct propounding of questionably relevant free-market principles in the last paragraph. -- 71.198.187.155 23:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
An article published by TheRegister ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/27/ntia_icann_meeting/) (referenced by a slashdot entry today) claims that ICANN has been internationalized. According to Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060727-7366.html) at 17:21 GMT, this is inaccurate. US control should continue for at least a year according to Ars Technica. Perhaps someone more wikipedia-knowledgeable than I am should add a comment clarifying this (such as "Contrary to some reports, control of ICANN has not been internationalized[1]->arstechnica.") -- Whiteknox 17:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Re the statement: "However, the attempts that ICANN made to set up an organizational structure that would allow wide input from the global Internet community did not work well;" -- this just doesn't ring true. I recall there was a claim from some official in ICANN in this respect, but it seemed to be actually in response to some in the ICANN board not wanting to deal with any actual democratic control of their decision making. They seemed to translate an election mechanism they designed not working out into there being no possibility of such a mechanism working (in other words, they inexplicably gave up). Hopefully, we can eventually improve this part of the article. — Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I've tried valiantly to remove some of the weasel words in this article but it's really difficult, the entire section about alternatives to ICANN was it's own article at one point which I successfully lobbied to have merged here but it still exists solely as independent research and opinion. I've tried to change "some claim" with X's website as a reference to "X claims" with X's website as a reference but it's an ongoing effort. Elomis 02:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I am removing this section as it currently stands as it is plainly out-of-date. I archive it below for reference.
Wwwhatsup ( talk) 08:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to work in [ this bit of news], about ICANN's administrators saying they have met the requirements set by the US government to become independent of government control. I will leave that for editors with more experience on this article. TechBear ( talk) 14:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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74.194.81.237 ( talk) 20:36, 20 April 2008
There seem to be no outstanding issues on that section, so I have removed the NPOV tag. -- Duncan ( talk) 13:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
where does ICANN derive its authority to assign names and numbers on the internet? If it is from the laws passed by US Parliament or executive orders of the US state or federal Governments then it hardly matters if it is an NGO or Private company for the purposes of considering its true nature. It would be an extension of the US govt. Another question that remains is how can some US company\NGO\DEPARtment can sit on decisions regarding domain names when internet is spread all over the world? is it like US Govt sitting and deciding as to what telephone numbers can be alloted all over the world? In normal course, telephone operators are controlled by the respective world govts in the matters of number ranges that may be alloted, license fees, spectrum that may be utilised etc. Although telephone would have been invented by some xyz with the help of funding from xyz university\state when it comes to its commercial operation globally it is a matter of policy of the respective governments. Should it not be the same in case of internet? Everyone understands that it had its origin in US defence and was developed and is largely controlled through servers in US but it cannot set policy universally which would amount to infringing on the sovereign rights of other countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.238.79.233 ( talk) 18:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
No sane state in the long term would agree for a proposal to control internet through some MNC OR NGO or other similat organization situated in US and subject to US laws. Only acceptable solution out of this would lie in signing up some international treaty and creating an international body which would derive its legitimacy and authority from the treaty signed by all sovereign states of the world. 124.124.230.149 ( talk) 06:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The "Notable events" section includes the phrase "The introduction of the .eu Top Level Domain to the root in violation of RFC 1591" which seems to be original research / interpretation. A "reference" is provided to a bit of unsourced reasoning that says "Specifically, RFC 1591 uses the ISO 3166 standard as the authoritative list of country codes. .eu is not a country code, but is listed among the Exceptional Reservations." While the EU may not have UN recognition as a country, the RFC referenced specifically says: "The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country. The selection of the ISO 3166 list as a basis for country code top-level domain names was made with the knowledge that ISO has a procedure for determining which entities should be and should not be on that list." If the ISO 3166 list contains EU, it can hardly be a "violation of RFC 1591" to introduce a .eu Top Level Domain. In any case, the reference given for this "violation" is original research and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.210.163 ( talk) 13:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
As of April 22nd, 2011, the History section starts with the phrase: "Before the establishment of ICANN, the Government of the United States controlled the domain name system of the internet.". So, what did IANA do? -Ignacio Agulló —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.165.153.153 ( talk) 12:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
The article summary still contains something similar to the above phrase. It says "[ICANN was created] to oversee a number of Internet-related tasks previously performed directly on behalf of the U.S. government by other organizations, notably the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)." This completely misrepresents the relationship between IANA and ICANN. ICANN didn't just assume the tasks of IANA- ICANN subsumed IANA, making it a department. IANA is a part of ICANN. 140.182.209.225 ( talk) 14:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your inquiry concerning the content of a website. Although we appreciate your concern, ICANN does not have contractual authority to address complaints about website content. ICANN is not a government agency. ICANN is a private sector, not-for-profit organization with limited technical responsibility for coordinating the unique assignment of Internet domain names and IP addresses. Therefore, ICANN cannot address consumer complaints regarding the following matters: 1. Spam complaints 2. Website content complaints 3. Failure to answer phones promptly 4. Failure to respond to e-mail messages promptly 5. Overbilling/Multiple billing 6. Computer viruses These types of consumer complaints are not addressed in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) and are therefore not a violation of the RAA. Please see, http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/ra-agreement-21may09-en.htm. If you believe the website content refers to anything illegal, your best course of action is to contact a law enforcement agency in your jurisdiction or to seek legal advice from an attorney. If you are concerned about the content of an email message or a web page, you should contact the domain name holder or the applicable Internet Service Provider. Best regards, ICANN Services 65.30.35.48 ( talk) 18:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In regard to the snooping and recording activities of various security agencies uncovered in 2013, notably NSA, FBI, GCHQ, etc. it would be interesting to know the relationship of ICANN to the US government and whether ICANN can block Internet domains just by a departmental memo within the US government organizations or only with a judges order or not at all. Or to put it differently - how is the US running ICANN? Would there be a difference, if ICANN relocated to Andorra? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.127.93 ( talk) 08:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Why ICANN didn't speak out against ICE and DOJ domain seizures? Why is ICANN not speaking against illegal seizure by "City of London"? 85.242.16.4 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:11, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
In the lead and in the History section the article says:
But the criticism section seems to contradict this when it says:
What is the real situation? What, if anything, changed in 2009?
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Meanwhile, ICANN is seeking to privatize itself, withdrawing from its connections to the US Government and the US Department of Commerce. -- considering this, I keep wondering how, in lieu of this morning's news (see Slashdot), just how the United Nations would plan on taking over this organization and its tasks if the ITU gets what it wants. -- 69.234.232.55 04:38, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I need to use the domain somewhereovertherainbow.com trying to copyright it i have a common law divorce coming up against my husband domestic violence and sex Trafficing. BonnieMaynard ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
I need to use the domain somewhereovertherainbow.com trying to copyright it i have a common law divorce coming up against my husband domestic violence and sex Trafficing. BonnieMaynard ( talk) 05:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Is there any reason not to move this to Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers? Most of the other related bodies IETF, IESG, IANA, etc are all at their full names. Noel (talk) 16:31, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
The result of the debate was no move Ardenn 17:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
There was an improperly formatted requested move on WP:RM from the current article state ( ICANN) to Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
with the comment
Completing request here - please give your opinions below. WhiteNight T | @ | C 17:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
The second half of the section "Arguments about ICANN" contains useful information and ought not, I think, be deleted. Still, it requires significant cleanup to conform to NPOV. Note especially the reference to UDRP as "hideous", the unsubstantiated claim that "many experts" believe ICANN is a "corrupt monopoly", and the direct propounding of questionably relevant free-market principles in the last paragraph. -- 71.198.187.155 23:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
An article published by TheRegister ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/27/ntia_icann_meeting/) (referenced by a slashdot entry today) claims that ICANN has been internationalized. According to Ars Technica ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060727-7366.html) at 17:21 GMT, this is inaccurate. US control should continue for at least a year according to Ars Technica. Perhaps someone more wikipedia-knowledgeable than I am should add a comment clarifying this (such as "Contrary to some reports, control of ICANN has not been internationalized[1]->arstechnica.") -- Whiteknox 17:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Re the statement: "However, the attempts that ICANN made to set up an organizational structure that would allow wide input from the global Internet community did not work well;" -- this just doesn't ring true. I recall there was a claim from some official in ICANN in this respect, but it seemed to be actually in response to some in the ICANN board not wanting to deal with any actual democratic control of their decision making. They seemed to translate an election mechanism they designed not working out into there being no possibility of such a mechanism working (in other words, they inexplicably gave up). Hopefully, we can eventually improve this part of the article. — Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 16:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I've tried valiantly to remove some of the weasel words in this article but it's really difficult, the entire section about alternatives to ICANN was it's own article at one point which I successfully lobbied to have merged here but it still exists solely as independent research and opinion. I've tried to change "some claim" with X's website as a reference to "X claims" with X's website as a reference but it's an ongoing effort. Elomis 02:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I am removing this section as it currently stands as it is plainly out-of-date. I archive it below for reference.
Wwwhatsup ( talk) 08:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to work in [ this bit of news], about ICANN's administrators saying they have met the requirements set by the US government to become independent of government control. I will leave that for editors with more experience on this article. TechBear ( talk) 14:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[...]
Fred Showker, Editor: DTG Magazine
74.194.81.237 ( talk) 20:36, 20 April 2008
There seem to be no outstanding issues on that section, so I have removed the NPOV tag. -- Duncan ( talk) 13:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
where does ICANN derive its authority to assign names and numbers on the internet? If it is from the laws passed by US Parliament or executive orders of the US state or federal Governments then it hardly matters if it is an NGO or Private company for the purposes of considering its true nature. It would be an extension of the US govt. Another question that remains is how can some US company\NGO\DEPARtment can sit on decisions regarding domain names when internet is spread all over the world? is it like US Govt sitting and deciding as to what telephone numbers can be alloted all over the world? In normal course, telephone operators are controlled by the respective world govts in the matters of number ranges that may be alloted, license fees, spectrum that may be utilised etc. Although telephone would have been invented by some xyz with the help of funding from xyz university\state when it comes to its commercial operation globally it is a matter of policy of the respective governments. Should it not be the same in case of internet? Everyone understands that it had its origin in US defence and was developed and is largely controlled through servers in US but it cannot set policy universally which would amount to infringing on the sovereign rights of other countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.238.79.233 ( talk) 18:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
No sane state in the long term would agree for a proposal to control internet through some MNC OR NGO or other similat organization situated in US and subject to US laws. Only acceptable solution out of this would lie in signing up some international treaty and creating an international body which would derive its legitimacy and authority from the treaty signed by all sovereign states of the world. 124.124.230.149 ( talk) 06:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The "Notable events" section includes the phrase "The introduction of the .eu Top Level Domain to the root in violation of RFC 1591" which seems to be original research / interpretation. A "reference" is provided to a bit of unsourced reasoning that says "Specifically, RFC 1591 uses the ISO 3166 standard as the authoritative list of country codes. .eu is not a country code, but is listed among the Exceptional Reservations." While the EU may not have UN recognition as a country, the RFC referenced specifically says: "The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country. The selection of the ISO 3166 list as a basis for country code top-level domain names was made with the knowledge that ISO has a procedure for determining which entities should be and should not be on that list." If the ISO 3166 list contains EU, it can hardly be a "violation of RFC 1591" to introduce a .eu Top Level Domain. In any case, the reference given for this "violation" is original research and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.210.163 ( talk) 13:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
As of April 22nd, 2011, the History section starts with the phrase: "Before the establishment of ICANN, the Government of the United States controlled the domain name system of the internet.". So, what did IANA do? -Ignacio Agulló —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.165.153.153 ( talk) 12:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
The article summary still contains something similar to the above phrase. It says "[ICANN was created] to oversee a number of Internet-related tasks previously performed directly on behalf of the U.S. government by other organizations, notably the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)." This completely misrepresents the relationship between IANA and ICANN. ICANN didn't just assume the tasks of IANA- ICANN subsumed IANA, making it a department. IANA is a part of ICANN. 140.182.209.225 ( talk) 14:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your inquiry concerning the content of a website. Although we appreciate your concern, ICANN does not have contractual authority to address complaints about website content. ICANN is not a government agency. ICANN is a private sector, not-for-profit organization with limited technical responsibility for coordinating the unique assignment of Internet domain names and IP addresses. Therefore, ICANN cannot address consumer complaints regarding the following matters: 1. Spam complaints 2. Website content complaints 3. Failure to answer phones promptly 4. Failure to respond to e-mail messages promptly 5. Overbilling/Multiple billing 6. Computer viruses These types of consumer complaints are not addressed in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) and are therefore not a violation of the RAA. Please see, http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/ra-agreement-21may09-en.htm. If you believe the website content refers to anything illegal, your best course of action is to contact a law enforcement agency in your jurisdiction or to seek legal advice from an attorney. If you are concerned about the content of an email message or a web page, you should contact the domain name holder or the applicable Internet Service Provider. Best regards, ICANN Services 65.30.35.48 ( talk) 18:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
In regard to the snooping and recording activities of various security agencies uncovered in 2013, notably NSA, FBI, GCHQ, etc. it would be interesting to know the relationship of ICANN to the US government and whether ICANN can block Internet domains just by a departmental memo within the US government organizations or only with a judges order or not at all. Or to put it differently - how is the US running ICANN? Would there be a difference, if ICANN relocated to Andorra? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.127.93 ( talk) 08:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Why ICANN didn't speak out against ICE and DOJ domain seizures? Why is ICANN not speaking against illegal seizure by "City of London"? 85.242.16.4 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:11, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
In the lead and in the History section the article says:
But the criticism section seems to contradict this when it says:
What is the real situation? What, if anything, changed in 2009?
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